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DRM08 01-20-2025 03:54 PM

It will be funny if Chicago is still a bad team, even with a talented #1 overall Draft pick at QB and a very good OC in their HC spot.

Cheater5 01-20-2025 04:00 PM

Meh. Josh McDaniels 2.0

Arrogant ass blew off the redskins last off season while their hiring team was in flight to Detroit.

Winning six, seven, or eight games next year or thereafter, is the ceiling.

HemiEd 01-20-2025 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17925749)
RIP Ben Johnson’s Career

Awe shucks, there is always the Raiders HC opportunity afterwards. :D

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:29 PM

Mike Florio -- still a dipshit.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17925785)
He’s bringing Dennis Allen to be his DC per X

that's a nice sidekick -- Allen's a hell of a DC.

Now I'll be honest, he SHOULD hire an OC as well. Not someone he necessarily hands the keys to, but someone else to help him run that offense.

He's a new coach. Trying to be the CEO of an NFL team isn't the same as being an OC. These new HCs coming from offensive backgrounds really should hire an OC to help share the burden with them.

But I think their egos won't allow it.

If he wants to be Andy Reid someday, having that OC will help him. It has very much helped Andy, IMO. Even if Andy still runs the offense on gamedays, having that guy in the room helps.

If he wants to be Zac Taylor with his sparkly offense and routinely disappointing preparation and gameday coaching, go it alone.

There is ZERO reason for a HC, even an offensive minded one, not to have an OC. They don't count on the salary cap and they're just one more qualified hand you can delegate responsibility to.

The reason they don't is nothing but pride and ego, IMO.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17925807)
I thought he was a Raider all the way.

Never made any sense to me at all.

I'd have immediately dismissed him as the next hot shit HC had he taken that job. That sort of poor judgment is just that bad.

Shields68 01-20-2025 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17926004)
Never made any sense to me at all.

I'd have immediately dismissed him as the next hot shit HC had he taken that job. That sort of poor judgment is just that bad.

The only thing that did was he could have gotten his pick at GM. The big question was what he thought of Poles and Caleb.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17926040)
The only thing that did was he could have gotten his pick at GM. The big question was what he thought of Poles and Caleb.

WTF does Ben Johnson know about hiring GMs?

Like I said, taking the Raiders job would've immediately soured me on him because it would've been just another example of a guy thinking his shit doesn't smell.

If he took a job as a first time HC because he could choose a GM, a job he knows NOTHING about, then he's the same sort of hard-headed, arrogant jackass that has failed in that role seemingly every single time.

Taking the Bears job shows a guy who has a better feel for how the league functions than I thought he might.

Easy 6 01-20-2025 06:37 PM

Best move they've made since Ditka, probably even better considering the modern implications

There was plenty of smoke around them wanting McCarthy, and Bears fans the world round should thank their lucky stars it wasn't him

Easy 6 01-20-2025 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17925749)
RIP Ben Johnson’s Career

I dunnooo, Jim!

Odunze, Moore, Kmet and Swift is a pretty good starter kit for an offensive minded young HC... coach up Williams and get some decent O lineman in the draft/free agency

Throw in a defense not lacking in young talent and thats potential lightening in a bottle, fast turnaround material IMO

Excited for my kid, she's a die hard Bear

KCUnited 01-20-2025 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17926139)
I dunnooo, Jim!

Odunze, Moore, Kmet and Swift is a pretty good starter kit for an offensive minded young HC... coach up Williams and get some decent O lineman in the draft/free agency

Throw in a defense not lacking in young talent, and thats potential lightening in a bottle, fast turnaround material IMO

Excited for my kid, she's a die hard Bear

Yeah it was the right move by both parties and could signal that Poles has gotten their old bird owner to actually commit to winning by going out and getting the best candidate available

But they're still the Bears until they're not

Easy 6 01-20-2025 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17926149)
Yeah it was the right move by both parties and could signal that Poles has gotten their old bird owner to actually commit to winning by going out and getting the best candidate available

But they're still the Bears until they're not

There will be ugly hurdles to clear no doubt, but this was a slam dunk hire IMO

Red Dawg 01-20-2025 06:57 PM

His first job is to fix Williams attitude from arrogant jerk to leader.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17926165)
His first job is to fix Williams attitude from arrogant jerk to leader.

His first job is to learn when not to burn his trick plays against rummies they're beating by 24.

He has some hubris he needs to work on in his own right. He and Campbell tended to fuel each others worst inclinations in that regard, IMO.

UteChief 01-20-2025 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17925794)
Raiders going to be a tough sell with all the great coaches and QBs in the AFC west now.

Someone is going to be happy to take that job and add HC to the resume.


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