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Dunerdr 02-23-2025 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17976916)
Sign Ronnie Stanley and draft a project.

We already have the project just out a vet in front of him.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-23-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17977089)
We already have the project just out a vet in front of him.

I will agree with you halfway. We have a vet, but we don't have a project. We have a project at guard...

Dunerdr 02-23-2025 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17977098)
I will agree with you halfway. We have a vet, but we don't have a project. We have a project at guard...

No way. You can’t write the kid off from one game. He was fine against good rushers in Baltimore. He’s super raw. Should not have been starting. He needs to work on hand placement and footwork. He’s an elite size/movement T prospect. If this staff ****ed around with Niang for 4 years who showed less, they’re not moving this kid to guard after 2 games starting. I’d bet money he’s at duke mannyweathers right now.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17977098)
I will agree with you halfway. We have a vet, but we don't have a project. We have a project at guard...

What exactly is your definition of a project?

A guy that's starter level right away?

Because that's not a project.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17976916)
Sign Ronnie Stanley and draft a project.

Let me ask you another question-

If you're Baltimore, a perennial contender picking in the low 20's every season-why would you let an above average LT go? You can't replace him in the draft, you pick too low. You can't replace him in free agency, it'll cost as much or more and the pickings are slim.

So why wouldn't you just re-sign the guy you have?

The ONLY reason is that you don't think he's going to be physically able, and in that case, KC should be very wary also.

And THAT is all I have to say on Ronnie Stanley.

Gary Cooper 02-23-2025 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17977114)
Let me ask you another question-

If you're Baltimore, a perennial contender picking in the low 20's every season-why would you let an above average LT go? You can't replace him in the draft, you pick too low. You can't replace him in free agency, it'll cost as much or more and the pickings are slim.

So why wouldn't you just re-sign the guy you have?

The ONLY reason is that you don't think he's going to be physically able, and in that case, KC should be very wary also.

And THAT is all I have to say on Ronnie Stanley.

Isn't Baltimore up against the cap? They'll probably want to keep Flowers and Hamilton long term. Also, Lamar doesn't need a LT as much as other QBs who are more stationery in the pocket.

I'd keep Staley if I were them but I can see the arguments against.

Dunerdr 02-23-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17977140)
Isn't Baltimore up against the cap? They'll probably want to keep Flowers and Hamilton long term. Also, Lamar doesn't need a LT as much as other QBs who are more stationery in the pocket.

I'd keep Staley if I were them but I can see the arguments against.

The idea that the most mediocre qb consistently in the playoffs doesn’t need a LT is absurd. Just because he can run doesn’t mean he’s impervious to pressure.

Gary Cooper 02-23-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17977172)
The idea that the most mediocre qb consistently in the playoffs doesn’t need a LT is absurd. Just because he can run doesn’t mean he’s impervious to pressure.

Sure it's great to have a solid LT. Lamar is the most unique QB though. I'd keep Staley but they have other needs too.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17977182)
Sure it's great to have a solid LT. Lamar is the most unique QB though. I'd keep Staley but they have other needs too.

There's no greater need if you have a gaping hole at LT, I would think this last season would show that for Chiefs fans.

duncan_idaho 02-23-2025 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17976785)
He’s got baby arms. He’s not a LT for Andy Reid.

Watch the cut-up of his snaps against the Eagles.

Yeah, he has short arms, but he isn't getting beat in that game by any of the moves that typically give tackles with short arms a problem.

duncan_idaho 02-23-2025 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17976521)
Only thing that I wonder about is why the Rams are are not looking to retain him, especially at $16 million a year projected. If there are no red flags, then at that price KC really needs to consider trying to get him.

The Rams are trying to do a complete reset on offense, similar to the one they did after Donald retired.

It wouldn't surprise me if they're planning to move everything on offense but Nacua and Williams, re-set, and if they end up awful... being so, so sad about being in position to take Archie Manning... and then support him on a rookie deal with a young, dynamic defense and a young, dynamic offense.

Dunerdr 02-23-2025 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17977195)
Watch the cut-up of his snaps against the Eagles.

Yeah, he has short arms, but he isn't getting beat in that game by any of the moves that typically give tackles with short arms a problem.

I don’t hate the film, I just think the coaching staff puts him in the no pile of applicants because of it.

kccrow 02-23-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17977195)
Watch the cut-up of his snaps against the Eagles.

Yeah, he has short arms, but he isn't getting beat in that game by any of the moves that typically give tackles with short arms a problem.

Agreed. The Rams left him on an island a lot more than people seem to be giving him credit for.

kccrow 02-23-2025 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17976785)
He’s got baby arms. He’s not a LT for Andy Reid.

Andy Reid traded for Jason Peters in 2009.... He was 6'4" 328 with 33-1/8" arms. Arm length, IMO, can be overblown.

Alaric Jackson plays well, that matters most.

That's why I think Conerly is a fit. Ultra-athletic like Peters was and has longer arms than Peters.

Chiefshrink 02-23-2025 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17976521)
Only thing that I wonder about is why the Rams are are not looking to retain him, especially at $16 million a year projected. If there are no red flags, then at that price KC really needs to consider trying to get him.

Exactly! There's a reason why Doug Pederson did not want Taylor either and now we know!


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