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TRR 02-22-2004 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Good points and the way I see it is Bailey would be our first rounder.Not a bad return for the 30th overall pick,eh?A GUARANTEED Pro Bowler 4 times running.Picking at 30 overall doesn't guarantee anything for us.Bailey is PROVEN.Some of the more recent articles indicate we could get Bailey for less than two first rounders.I don't think the picks are the obstacle.The money is the sticking point,but even then with only a two year window,the Chiefs should be more than willing to solidify the defense.I think the Chiefs should be willing to give more in a signing bonus,which is guaranteed money, in an effort to land him.
Good post. I agree with you that the picks aren't the issue. Like I said, I would give up two first round picks for Champ Bailey, but how much money will he command? Maybe Bailey would take less to come to a contender? Maybe guys like Morton would restructure? Either way, I don't see Carl Peterson making this type of deal. It's just too good to be true.

Wile_E_Coyote 02-22-2004 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chieficus
Since when did we set out merely to win the AFC West?
I think wining the AFC West is the first goal to make the playoffs & Champ is money over spent, that could be spent elsewhere IMO

Chieficus 02-22-2004 11:45 AM
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I don't see Carl Peterson making this type of deal. It's just too good to be true.
Carl's been manipulating the cap for years--methinks he can do it with the best of 'em...and if Bailey wants to sign for too much...Carl can handle it...

"STFD and STFU, Champ! I got you out of that hole called Washington, now we're going to do things my way or we'll trade you to the Cardinals!"

:)

BigChiefFan 02-22-2004 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
as far as the AFC West is concerned, do the Chiefs really need a Champ Bailey?
There are some good receivers in the AFC West and besides that we play alot of damn good receivers next year,outside of the AFC West.It's not just about the AFC West.It's about having the best chance of going to the Super Bowl and winning it all.

Chieficus 02-22-2004 11:48 AM
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I think wining the AFC West is the first goal to make the playoffs
True...but as we saw this year winning the AFC West, even getting a bye-week and playing at home in the first game doesn't do a thing if your defense can't match up with other teams offenses in the post season...

LVNHACK 02-22-2004 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Good points and the way I see it is Bailey would be our first rounder.Not a bad return for the 30th overall pick,eh?A GUARANTEED Pro Bowler 4 times running.Picking at 30 overall doesn't guarantee anything for us.Bailey is PROVEN.Some of the more recent articles indicate we could get Bailey for less than two first rounders.I don't think the picks are the obstacle.The money is the sticking point,but even then with only a two year window,the Chiefs should be more than willing to solidify the defense.I think the Chiefs should be willing to give more in a signing bonus,which is guaranteed money, in an effort to land him.

Couldn't agree more............

Wile_E_Coyote 02-22-2004 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
There are some good receivers in the AFC West and besides that we play alot of damn good receivers next year,outside of the AFC West.It's not just about the AFC West.It's about having the best chance of going to the Super Bowl and winning it all.
we already have high paid stars in Tony G , Priest & the O line. We don't have to have the very best, it would be nice. IMO just don't see it as realistic

LVNHACK 02-22-2004 11:52 AM
I can't believe it..............Football talk on the Planet.........

Wile_E_Coyote 02-22-2004 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chieficus
True...but as we saw this year winning the AFC West, even getting a bye-week and playing at home in the first game doesn't do a thing if your defense can't match up with other teams offenses in the post season...
and just a middle of the road defense would have done wonders

Mr. Laz 02-22-2004 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TRR
I don't mind giving up two first round picks for Champ Bailey. It's the money he will command that scares me. I want John Tait and Jerome Woods back. Especially John Tait. If Bailey is going to command so much money that we cannot re-sign our own, then I don't want him.
you actually think that John Tait and Jerome Woods are worth more than Champ Bailey?

give me Champ Bailey,Shaunard Harts and marcus Spears in the starting lineup over Warfield,Tait,Woods.

the ability to lock down 1 on 1 consistantly on defense is Huge


depends on whether the money bailey wants is just so crazy that it kills the rest of the team.

you just can't afford to give randy moss money out and handcuff the rest of the team.

Big money is fine .... 1/4 of the cap for 1 player is not

BigChiefFan 02-22-2004 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote
we already have high paid stars in Tony G , Priest & the O line. We don't have to have the very best, it would be nice. IMO just don't see it as realistic
We could have Bailey if we WANTED him,it's just a matter of paying him.

Andoverer 02-22-2004 11:56 AM
YEAH BUT A KICK-A** DEFENSE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT HOME THE TROPHY

Chieficus 02-22-2004 11:56 AM
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and just a middle of the road defense would have done wonders
True...but I think what has some of us salivating is the thought that with the coaching change combined with this one player from another team's stock has the potential of bumping us up to better than middle-of-the-road...not a guarentee...but sometimes that's all it takes...

BigChiefFan 02-22-2004 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LVNHACK
I can't believe it..............Football talk on the Planet.........
Rep to all for actually partcipating in an active Football thread. :thumb:

Wile_E_Coyote 02-22-2004 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chieficus
True...but I think what has some of us salivating is the thought that with the coaching change combined with this one player from another team's stock has the potential of bumping us up to better than middle-of-the-road...not a guarentee...but sometimes that's all it takes...
Dan Synder-itis:)


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