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Those who want to point to Quinn as having potential have only one argument, he is a former first rounder. Never mind that he free fell to the bottom of the first round. Never mind that his NFL career up to now has sucked. He is a former first rounder.
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In his last start he threw for 66 ****ing yards. HIS ARROW? POINTING DOWN |
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it's not like he would be competing against Joe Montana in KC |
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Didn't stop anyone from giving up on Brodie Croyle. The guy had a 90-yard game followed up by a 66-yard game. You can't blame that on his supporting cast, especially when THE BROWNS WON BOTH GAMES. |
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You're trying Bone, you're trying ROFL
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You're comparing a proven gold nugget to, so far for certain, pyrite. |
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We already went through a bunch of Jets and Patriots so might as well get every rotting leaf from the tree. |
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Unless Cassel starts to play the best football of his life, straight out of the gates, either Stanzi or Quinn is gonna get a shot. When they do, it will be a win win because we will either fail bad enough as a team to pick high enough for a legit qb in the draft or win enough games to not really need to. I think I've seen all of Quinns starts and came away disgusted and very unimpressed, but maybe he is a late bloomer that just needed some time to "get it"...he sure wouldn't be the first qb that happened to. |
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Can you guarantee that this is absolute fact? |
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They pursued Manning. They interviewed all 3 top qbs at the combine They attended Tannehills proday and interviewed him again there. They had a private workout with Ryan shortly after his pro day Romeo has made comment after comment about Cassel needing to play like he did mid 2010 Romeo said RG3 is a guy he would want to "move up and get". Before this offseason, there wasn't a peep about replacing Cassel, now...lots of stuff is out there to indicate Cassel needs to earn the right to keep his job. I'd bet significant real money that Cassel isn't the starter by the end of the season. |
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Its just that now, I'm so sick of Cassel I must cling my hope to something. |
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hell i was glad to see Palko play at first but that didnt last long. LMAO |
As Chiefs fans we should be in favor of the shortest route to drafting our own 1st round QB.
That means chopping off the heads of the assholes running our franchise ASAP. **** all this Brady Quinn bullshit. |
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And if Quinn is able to put everything together (and he's got a lot of the tools you want to see in a starting NFL quarterback), I don't think it makes much of a difference if he was or wasn't initially drafted by this franchise. The guy got caught in a bad situation several times and hasn't been able to truly get a shot. He's got that opportunity now. If he doesn't, then so be it, but I don't think that there's a need to crucify him for simply being on the team and actually looking better than the other two guys on the roster at the QB position because he wasn't drafted by the Chiefs or he hasn't made multiple All-Pro teams. He's still young, he's got the tools and he's finally going to get a legit chance. The Chiefs are a pretty solid team on both sides of the ball, and with the pick up of Hillis and Winston, they are going to be a very strong run team. He also has a very nice receiving corps to work with. It's not like he needs to carry the team by himself. He's comfortable in the Daboll system, etc. It's the best chance the Chiefs have had of putting together a solid team in a long time. It's not Marty defense or Dick offense. It's a nice balanced team and Quinn fits what they do and has the tools to be quite effective for this system. I'm not going to bitch too much when he takes Cassel's starting spot by the end of the preseason. It's an upgrade by any measure. |
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at least, it gives all the anti-Cassel fans hope where there was none. |
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Romeo Crennel, that QB expert. He selected Brady Quinn like fine champagne. |
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this is his last chance at coaching in the NFL and he picked a QB he'll go to the top with or fall to the bottomless pit with. if i'm RC that QB damn sure ain't Matt Cassel. |
Quinn was signed to help integrate the playbook IMO.
If it was anything more, I would think they would have given him a 2 or 3 year deal. It's Cassels deal till he totally stinks up the place and leads us to a 2-4 record going into the bye...or until we are out of the playoff hunt. At that time, either Stanzi or Quinn will get a look. |
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If true, Crennel is one dumb mother****er. Dumber than I gave him credit for. |
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Romeo knows one thing about Quinn from their time in Cleveland, that he sucked bad enough that he had to be pulled. Quinn was terrible. Every bit as bad as Palko (but with a stronger arm) or Tebow (without the magic) |
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i think Romeo has something more up his sleeve. |
Didn't Pioli and Crennel talk about sitting several of the rookies? Doesn't sound like they are too worried about their jobs to me. Trying to manage the team for the future is usually done be top tier teams, not teams that haven't done shit for years and years
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Oh no Brady Quinn couldn't be super man in his first 12 NFL starts! Most QB's aren't that good in so few starts, especially when they have no help.
Here he isn't going to be asked to carry the team either. We are going to be a run first team who plays great defense. Quinn has the talent and arm to make throws that Cassel can't, thus being an improvement. Hes had plenty of time to sit back and learn more. Hes going to be a lot smarter and mechanically sound than he was three years ago. He might not of played in games, but he still practiced. This is his first chance to develop as a QB. Start out as a game manager and add to his load more and more as time progresses assuming he can handle it. |
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How about at least being average, or even slightly below average? The dude was an absolutely bottom of the barrel NFL quarterback and showed 0 progress. |
the chiefs let the best QB of this latest team go to dallas. orton was way ahead of the curve compared to the remaining group. brady quinn was a 1st rounder because he did play in a pro style offense during college, and he did okay with it. but, guys are never going to be wide open like it is in college and I don't see where quinn has been any more effective in the NFL than cassel.
but, if experience makes QB's better over time, he should be able to pull ahead of the inexperienced cassel. a lot has been made of cassel's lacking collegiate career, it does make a diff imo and it makes a diff that quinn played in a pro style offense during college. but, and this is really important to me with regard to the passing game and specifically the QB position, I don't see the fire from either player, the command and venom of a stryker, a sniper and conductor of field position. this staff can blow smoke for only a lil bit longer imo. they'll keep their job through this and next season, but if they can't win a playoff game by the next season, they will be expendable. actually, I doubt RC will want to coach after 2013, he's getting up there in age and doesn't move real well as is. anyway, it would be cool to see quinn beat cassel or take over with success because from what is coming out from otas right now, stanzi needs another season before he can compete to become the manzi and really, if brady quinn wants to stay in the NFL his time is now. quinn is entering year five. if he paid attn this past 4 years, he should be mature enough to compete with cassel. he certainly has the tools. |
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I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point: Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2008, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania. I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles. He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter. I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career. I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes. |
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Some of you really think we're gonna make a hypothetical run at a Super Bowl with Romeo Crennel, Brian Daboll and Brady Quinn leading our team. Jesus ****ing Christ. What's next, Arrowhead gonna get a Dawg Pound? |
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I was surprised he was let go for so little. |
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Like I said, Quinn has everything you want in an NFL QB. Protosize. Nice arm. Great work ethic. He's got a nice touch on the ball. I'm glad he's here. I'm not saying he's Joe Montana. I'm saying that he's potentially a better option than we've had at the QB position since Trent Green, and maybe better. You can't judge him on 12 games and there were the reasons that I pointed out as to why he hasn't been given a chance. He gets that chance now. However, if you want to implode about having him on the team - go right ahead. Maybe Cassel has a really good summer camp and preseason and is yet again the starter and you don't have to worry about Quinn being under center for the Chiefs. I'm sure that will make you happy. |
If Quinn didn't think he could be good QB in this league he would have went with more money instead of coming here.
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Add a solid QB to a relatively solid team on both sides of the ball and that gives this team a legit shot to win the AFC West and the playoffs. To be honest, having Hudson at center, Winston at RT, a backfield of Hillis and Charles and a healthy Berry is reason enough for some elevated hope. Having a guy like Quinn, who has the potential to be a lot more than we currently have in Cassel, is just icing on the cake. |
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Get the **** out. He has never done shit in this league. What's more likely, he's actually a horrendous QB, or he's a previously undiscovered diamond in the rough. He doesn't offer shit for potential. |
If Quinn gets a shot, just show me... any real QB on planet earth, should be able to shine like the moon with this supporting cast.
Scouts Honor, i. will. stfu. Just Show Me. |
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We should bring back Brodie Croyle, too. I mean, what's the ****ing difference?
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eh, this team isn't ready to make a run yet. they needed this draft and they still have questions stopping the run and at WR. JC has to prove himself, the pass game needs to find rhythm and guys need to start catching balls.
if one of these pussy QB's can game even a lil, then ****ing put the dude in. I don't give one **** who it is. this team needs somebody who can go out and make plays. they are all just keeping the seat warm for tom brady trade 2013 anyway :D |
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Just copy. "I hate this regime" and control v that bitch till you get 200,000. That's basically all your posts say anyway until Gif'd up gets here. |
How long after Goatse got fired from WPI did he become the anti-chiefs? Was part of Pioli's deal with Nick to give him inside info that he had to fire Clay?
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Do you really think I got fired? Really? |
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I feel pretty confident in Quinn now considering some of the posters who are against him.
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Does anyone really think Quinn has the ability to be an elite franchise QB and not simply "a little bit better than Cassel"?
To me, the worst thing that could happen to the franchise would be Quinn getting a shot late in the year and looking a little better than Cassel (maybe Orton like) and then the franchise rolling with him the next 2 years to give him a shot, all the while passing on 1st round QBs. |
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1. If I'm right, then I get to tell everybody how brilliant I am... or 2. If I'm wrong, I'll just get swept up in the euphoria of the Chiefs success and nobody will remember the stupid negative shit I posted for years. |
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There is no comparison but great try... Posted via Mobile Device |
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Quinn costs us next to NOTHING. Drafting that security blanket wouldn't hurt us at all... |
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