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Garcia Bronco 03-29-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9538419)
It's unbelievable just how hard Seattle nailed their QB solution last year. Franchise QB who is arguably in league with (or better than) Andrew Luck in the 3rd round, free agent guy they picked up turned into a trade.

What an unstoppable team they could be. That's a scary-looking dynasty if I ever saw one.

Ah no....Virginia Kid had a great season, but no...he's nowhere as good as Andrew Luck.

mikey23545 03-29-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9538546)
That's an obsolete ideology. Teams pass to set up the run now, not vice versa. If you run to set up the pass, then explain the success of the passing games of the Vikings, Chiefs, and Jaguars compared to the Patriots, Saints, or even the Lions.

Uh, gee, maybe the quality of their QBs?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-29-2013 03:07 PM

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 13s

To be clear: The Seahawks have done their part in the Matt Flynn trade. It's up to the Raiders and Flynn to push it over the goal line now

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-29-2013 03:09 PM

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 1m

Seahawks will get a 2013 draft pick and some sort of conditional pick in 2014 as part of the Matt Flynn trade, if it's completed.

B14ckmon 03-29-2013 03:18 PM

I thought he was going to the Jaguars? I was told by the fat rednecks here that I was wrong when I said he was going to the Raiders.

B14ckmon 03-29-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9538408)
And the Jags fans wept...

By Jags fans you mean you? Because real Jags fans didn't want him.

Bewbies 03-29-2013 03:20 PM

If the Raiders give up what we gave up for Smith LMAO

B14ckmon 03-29-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9538820)
If the Raiders give up what we gave up for Smith LMAO

Raiders do not have a second round pick.

carlos3652 03-29-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9538821)
Raiders do not have a second round pick.

Thats right, they already gave that one up on Carson Palmer... and the 2012 1st round

-King- 03-29-2013 03:24 PM

Atleast Geno most likely won't end up in the division now.

carlos3652 03-29-2013 03:25 PM

My guess 3rd round plus a 2014 conditional 2-5 round pick depending on starts, performance

B14ckmon 03-29-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 9538835)
My guess 3rd round plus a 2014 conditional 2-5 round pick depending on starts, performance

No chance this years is a 3rd rounder. 4 or 5. They aren't going to leave themselves one pick in the first 3 rounds.

carlos3652 03-29-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9538837)
No chance this years is a 3rd rounder. 4 or 5. They aren't going to leave themselves one pick in the first 3 rounds.

Well I didnt think they would give up a 1st and a 2nd for Palmer but they did.

RealSNR 03-29-2013 03:59 PM

Ten bucks says Russell Wilson wins more Super Bowls than Andrew Luck.

Also, wtf? Some guy called Russell Wilson a "system QB" earlier. Good ****ing God that's some special brand of reerun right there.

Oh, before you think about commenting, go get raped and die, Dane

BlackHelicopters 03-29-2013 04:00 PM

Tyler Palko > Matt Flynn

Tribal Warfare 03-29-2013 04:01 PM

the AFC West will be an all out cripple fight if this goes down.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9538910)
Ten bucks says Russell Wilson wins more Super Bowls than Andrew Luck.

Also, wtf? Some guy called Russell Wilson a "system QB" earlier. Good ****ing God that's some special brand of reerun right there.

Oh, before you think about commenting, go get raped and die, Dane

Go **** yourself

ChiefGator 03-29-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9538915)
the AFC West will be an all out cripple fight if this goes down.

Excellent! I like our odds in that!

penbrook 03-29-2013 04:39 PM

From Geno Smith today.

" I hope Kansas City is legitimately interested. I hope I go No. 1, but, hey, we'll see,'' Smith, generally acknowledged as the top quarterback prospect, told USA TODAY Sports Friday by phone from his Miami-area home. "The Chiefs are bringing me in, so I'm going in there thinking that they're interested (in me), because I am in them.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9538998)
From Geno Smith today.

" I hope Kansas City is legitimately interested. I hope I go No. 1, but, hey, we'll see,'' Smith, generally acknowledged as the top quarterback prospect, told USA TODAY Sports Friday by phone from his Miami-area home. "The Chiefs are bringing me in, so I'm going in there thinking that they're interested (in me), because I am in them.


This mother ****er and every other mother ****er in the NFL is interested in one thing...

Getting Paid

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9538998)
From Geno Smith today.

" I hope Kansas City is legitimately interested. I hope I go No. 1, but, hey, we'll see,'' Smith, generally acknowledged as the top quarterback prospect, told USA TODAY Sports Friday by phone from his Miami-area home. "The Chiefs are bringing me in, so I'm going in there thinking that they're interested (in me), because I am in them.

Trying not to ejaculate all over myself.

Chief_For_Life58 03-29-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9538998)
From Geno Smith today.

" I hope Kansas City is legitimately interested. I hope I go No. 1, but, hey, we'll see,'' Smith, generally acknowledged as the top quarterback prospect, told USA TODAY Sports Friday by phone from his Miami-area home. "The Chiefs are bringing me in, so I'm going in there thinking that they're interested (in me), because I am in them.

party

penbrook 03-29-2013 04:48 PM

Geno loves the game not money. Plus with the new CBA no he will not be getting paid as much. But yes Geno said so himself he would like to be a Chief.

With Flynn going to the Raiders and the Jaguars sticking with Gabbert. Its Geno time in KC.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9538419)
It's unbelievable just how hard Seattle nailed their QB solution last year. Franchise QB who is arguably in league with (or better than) Andrew Luck in the 3rd round, free agent guy they picked up turned into a trade.

What an unstoppable team they could be. That's a scary-looking dynasty if I ever saw one.

Let's let them get one before sucking their dicks.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 04:54 PM

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For now, I think the move is a great one for Oakland. They needed a quarterback and they clearly didn't believe Pryor was the answer, so this allows them to remain competitive without having to waste a high draft pick on a guy like Geno Smith.
Yup and we still have our first round pick

Maybe he will throw for 6 TD's and 480 yards every game

SAUTO 03-29-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9538480)
He had a better team around him and he had a better season. Just because you have a good team doesn't invalidate what you did.

No he didn't have a better season. How many games did he throw for 300 yards?

He averaged around 200 iirc.
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SAUTO 03-29-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9538656)
Alex Smith is and was a starting QB who sat for half a season.

He sat for half a season because he was benched.


That's a back up
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R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:00 PM

if Oakland decides Flynn isn't the guy they want moving forward, he's only owed $11.5 million over the next two seasons before becoming a free agent.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:01 PM

J would rather them get an unknown QB on a rebuilding team than an All Pro Elite QB like Alex Smiff LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:01 PM

Sounds like something the Chiefs would do. Say no to retreads.

SAUTO 03-29-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9538689)
Here....let me throw around some stats.


76.7% of CP members think ChiefsandO'sfan sucks dick. 25.3% think that he takes it up the ass.

What? You want proof of that? Just wait until April 25th, man.

so how many percent does that equal? LMAO
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Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:02 PM

Both Smiths > Flynn

tecumseh 03-29-2013 05:03 PM

Not a bad move by the flapjacks.

penbrook 03-29-2013 05:06 PM

Doug Baldwin just said that Flynn is going to Oakland.

Deal is done..

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9539029)
No he didn't have a better season. How many games did he throw for 300 yards?

He averaged around 200 iirc.
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First 8 games - 183 yards per game average

Last 8 games - 207 yards per game average

Playoffs - 286 yards per game average

One 300+ yard game versus Atlanta in the playoffs (385 yards).

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9539035)
He sat for half a season because he was benched.


That's a back up
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Knowing what we now know about Colin Kaepernick (and what Jim Harbaugh knew before anyone else), which QB's in the NFL would you start over him?

SAUTO 03-29-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539058)
Knowing what we now know about Colin Kaepernick (and what Jim Harbaugh knew before anyone else), which QB's in the NFL would you start over him?

today?

Brady
Brees
Both mannings
Rodgers
Luck
Roethlisberger

Those right off the top of my head.

still doesn't change the fact Smith was a backup, even if it was behind Jesus
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SAUTO 03-29-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539055)
First 8 games - 183 yards per game average

Last 8 games - 207 yards per game average

Playoffs - 286 yards per game average

One 300+ yard game versus Atlanta in the playoffs (385 yards).

about sums it up.

And he was great against the falcons. Made some great plays. But it would be a little silly to not at least mention that it was against the worst pass d in the NFL.


I'm just saying it may be a little early to crown kapernick or Wilson
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Mother****erJones 03-29-2013 05:29 PM

Flynn threw for 6 TDs against the LIONS. Their pass D was horrific. Take him. Atleast Smith can win a playoff game.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9539078)
Flynn threw for 6 TDs against the LIONS. Their pass D was horrific. Take him. Atleast Smith can win a playoff game.

He has to be better than Palmer and his empty yards though right?

BossChief 03-29-2013 05:32 PM

Combined rushing and passing, Kaepernick averaged more than a hundred yards more PER GAME than Alex Smith in the regular season.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:32 PM

Reighters loves him some retread QB. A True Faid fan.

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539041)
J would rather them get an unknown QB on a rebuilding team than an All Pro Elite QB like Alex Smiff LMAO

Why are you such a trolling bitch?

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539087)
Reighters loves him some retread QB. A True Faid fan.

Especially Gannon

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9539088)
Why are you such a trolling bitch?


:D:D:D

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9539085)
Combined rushing and passing, Kaepernick averaged more than a hundred yards more PER GAME than Alex Smith in the regular season.

Wow, who knew that Kaepernick was a dual-threat QB?

:facepalm:

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9539060)
today?

Brady
Brees
Both mannings
Rodgers
Luck
Roethlisberger

Those right off the top of my head.

still doesn't change the fact Smith was a backup, even if it was behind Jesus
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I disagree with your entire list.

There's only one guy today that I'd bench Kaepernick for and that's Cam Newton.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539091)
Especially Gannon

Lil Raidy would be proud.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539099)
I disagree with your entire list.

There's only one guy today that I'd bench Kaepernick for and that's Cam Newton.

Wha? :eek:

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539103)
Wha? :eek:

I think Kaepernick is that good. And I think that Newton is even better.

Could you imagine Newton with Belichick? Or Coughlin? Or even Reid?

It sucks that he's been stuck with Carolina and Rivera. And now, Mike Shula, the same guy that could never generate any offense in Tampa Bay under Dungy, regardless of the QB.

penbrook 03-29-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539122)
I think Kaepernick is that good. And I think that Newton is even better.

Could you imagine Newton with Belichick? Or Coughlin? Or even Reid?

It sucks that he's been stuck with Carolina and Rivera. And now, Mike Shula, the same guy that could never generate any offense in Tampa Bay under Dungy, regardless of the QB.

Cam Newton?? Are you serious!!

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:45 PM

Newton is not that good man... He is good but not in the class you are putting him in...


Oh and he is not as good as Smiff LMAO

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539135)
Cam Newton?? Are you serious!!

Absolutely.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539143)
Newton is not that good man... He is good but not in the class you are putting him in...


Oh and he is not as good as Smiff LMAO

Well, no one is in Alex Smith's class.

LMAO

penbrook 03-29-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539143)
Newton is not that good man... He is good but not in the class you are putting him in...


Oh and he is not as good as Smiff LMAO

Putting Newton over Brady Manning Brees and Rodgers is just plain stupid.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539156)
Putting Newton over Brady Manning Brees is just plain stupid.

i AGREE Only if you don't add SMIFF

penbrook 03-29-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539153)
Well, no one is in Alex Smith's class.

LMAO

Andy Dalton. Surrounded by talent and took them to the playoffs.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:49 PM

How awesome would it be if it was a bidding war between the Jags and Faid and Oakland got raped.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539156)
Putting Newton over Brady Manning Brees is just plain stupid.

Uh, no.

Especially when you consider their ages.

Are you telling us that Newton wouldn't have 4,000 yard plus seasons in Denver, New England or New Orleans? Are you familiar with the WR's in Carolina?

If Newton were in Denver with Thomas, Welker and Decker, he'd be closer to 4,500 yards per season, if not 5,000. He doesn't have dick in Carolina and has averaged 4,000 his first two seasons.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:50 PM

1st next year and Seattle gets the number one overall pick :eek:

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539163)
Andy Dalton. Surrounded by talent and took them to the playoffs.

That was a joke, n00b

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539164)
How awesome would it be if it was a bidding war between the Jags and Faid and Oakland got raped.


bIDDING FOR WHAT?

SAUTO 03-29-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539099)
I disagree with your entire list.

There's only one guy today that I'd bench Kaepernick for and that's Cam Newton.

fair enough and if I had gone down the entire list Newton would be about on par in my mind with kapernick.


But their sample sizes are too small at this point to put them up there at the top of the heap
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penbrook 03-29-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539169)
Uh, no.

Especially when you consider their ages.

Are you telling us that Newton wouldn't have 4,000 yard plus seasons in Denver, New England or New Orleans? Are you familiar with the WR's in Carolina?

If Newton were in Denver with Thomas, Welker and Decker, he'd be closer to 4,500 yards per season, if not 5,000. He doesn't have dick in Carolina and has averaged 4,000 his first two seasons.

He has Steve Smith.

B14ckmon 03-29-2013 05:52 PM

I'm still confused? PGM promised me the Jaguars were getting Flynn. Was he lying to me or is he just a dumb fat **** redneck?

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:53 PM

Kap is not as good as he looks.... A great team will make a player look much better than he is... Except for Smiff, he has natural talent

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539178)
He has Steve Smith.

:facepalm:

A soon to be 34 year old is Newton's best receiver.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9539179)
I'm still confused? PGM promised me the Jaguars were getting Flynn. Was he lying to me or is he just a dumb fat **** redneck?

He gets his brain stuck on shit from time to time and just can't think about anything else

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9539179)
I'm still confused? PGM promised me the Jaguars were getting Flynn. Was he lying to me or is he just a dumb fat **** redneck?

I did? I don't know about all that. Stop fibbing Cockmon.

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539169)
Uh, no.

Especially when you consider their ages.

Are you telling us that Newton wouldn't have 4,000 yard plus seasons in Denver, New England or New Orleans? Are you familiar with the WR's in Carolina?

If Newton were in Denver with Thomas, Welker and Decker, he'd be closer to 4,500 yards per season, if not 5,000. He doesn't have dick in Carolina and has averaged 4,000 his first two seasons.

It's possible you may be overrating Cam a little bit.

IMO, the great ones make the players around them better.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9539177)
fair enough and if I had gone down the entire list Newton would be about on par in my mind with kapernick.


But their sample sizes are too small at this point to put them up there at the top of the heap
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The other way to look at it is that he's started just 10 games and nearly won the Super Bowl.

Bad coaching lost it for them on that final drive.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9539189)
It's possible you may be overrating Cam a little bit.

IMO, the great ones make the players around them better.

That's what he's done.

The Panthers don't have jackshit for perimeter players (or a defense), yet he's averaged 4,000 yards his first two seasons and is responsible for 62 touchdowns.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539186)
He gets his brain stuck on shit from time to time and just can't think about anything else

The Faid have my full attention now. I don't see much future success with that regime.

BossChief 03-29-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539094)
Wow, who knew that Kaepernick was a dual-threat QB?

:facepalm:

dumbass

Kaepernick had 1814 yards in 7 starts...260/y/g

Alex had 1737 in 9 starts...193y/g

That's before we add in the rushing difference.

That's also the difference between a franchise qb and a game manager.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539205)
The Faid have my full attention now. I don't see much future success with that regime.

The Chargers and Raiders will suck for the foreseeable future.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539213)
The Chargers and Raiders will suck for the foreseeable future.

So, you are saying that Reighters shouldn't have put that new Flynn jersey on his credit card :)

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9539211)
dumbass

Kaepernick had 1814 yards in 7 starts...260/y/g

Alex had 1737 in 9 starts...193y/g

That's before we add in the rushing difference.

That's also the difference between a franchise qb and a game manager.

Oh, just shut the **** up.

Kaepernick is CLEARLY the better QB. Who argued otherwise?

Dr. Van Halen 03-29-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539058)
Knowing what we now know about Colin Kaepernick (and what Jim Harbaugh knew before anyone else), which QB's in the NFL would you start over him?

Mr. McCloud,
Do we really know much about Kaepernak? Is it possible his success was due to the fact no one had film on him? Did it almost seem like teams were figuring him out -- especially in the Super Bowl?

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539227)
So, you are saying that Reighters shouldn't have put that new Flynn jersey on his credit card :)

LMAO

They just gave up draft picks for another QB, even though they just gave up picks for Palmer and are without a high second this year.

They have a below average offensive line, no WR's, no RB's worth a crap and no TE. I'd be shocked if Dennis Allen is their coach in 2014 because despite the fact he looked overmatched last year, I don't know if they can sell another 1-4 win season to their fans.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9539241)
Mr. McCloud,
Do we really know much about Kaepernak? Is it possible his success was due to the fact no one had film on him? Did it almost seem like teams were figuring him out -- especially in the Super Bowl?

He put up 31 points against the Ravens defense and nearly won the game for them on that final drive, so no, I don't think anyone has figured him out yet.

When a guy can run for a 50 yard TD as easily as throwing for one, he's going to be difficult to stop.


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