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TimeForWasp 10-05-2011 11:45 PM

RIP


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Bewbies 10-05-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7971073)
The interesting thing here isn't the fact that Jobs died, it's that Apple fanbois are so damned annoying that people rejoice in the death of the guy who ran the company.

There's a lot of truth here.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7971471)
Because he built the Apple II? He was very sharp, most EE's are. He was above the average smart EE. There would have never been a Apple II or an Apple company with out Jobs. Woz would probably still be tinkering with shit in his garage. He had zero marketing skill. Very dull to talk to, marketing wasn't his thing.

He not only built the Apple I and II single handed... but he made the OS as well.

The work he did on the original Breakout game was amazing .. far far beyond what even the "above average" EE was capable of. He was one of the greatest EE of his time. Sad that you can't see that.

kstater 10-06-2011 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 7971349)
Did anyone try to restart him?

Battery went bad. Have to get a completely new unit.

BigMeatballDave 10-06-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7971073)
The interesting thing here isn't the fact that Jobs died, it's that Apple fanbois are so damned annoying that people rejoice in the death of the guy who ran the company.

Per usual, Hamas knocks it outta the park. :)

loochy 10-06-2011 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7971073)
The interesting thing here isn't the fact that Jobs died, it's that Apple fanbois are so damned annoying that people rejoice in the death of the guy who ran the company.

Nail.

Head.

Posirep.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7971022)
Without Jobs and Gates, we'd still be watching softcore porn through squiggly lines.

Now Steve Jobs invented HDTV and Brazzers?

Braincase 10-06-2011 05:24 AM

I respect the man's vision, energy, and creativity. I was not a fan of his egomania or style. He wanted to be remembered as Thomas Edison, more likely to be remembered as P.T. Barnum.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 06:01 AM

you'll shit a brick when you see it

http://i.imgur.com/2QAAq.jpg

Silock 10-06-2011 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7971648)
you'll shit a brick when you see it

http://i.imgur.com/2QAAq.jpg

Saw it back when it was posted in this thread on page 2 ;)

headsnap 10-06-2011 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 7971642)
I respect the man's vision, energy, and creativity. I was not a fan of his egomania or style. He wanted to be remembered as Thomas Edison, more likely to be remembered as P.T. Barnum.

only by the few remaining Micro$oft fanboys... :)

1ChiefsDan 10-06-2011 07:26 AM

I guess the old adage an Apple a day...
Isn't true.

Sent from my phone

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7971544)
He not only built the Apple I and II single handed... but he made the OS as well.

The work he did on the original Breakout game was amazing .. far far beyond what even the "above average" EE was capable of. He was one of the greatest EE of his time. Sad that you can't see that.

Woz had his place, before the accident and when Apple was a niche micro company he was needed. He had the ability to make Jobs dreams come to fruition. Don't be confused on the designs for the Apple I or II. Jobs had the design portion not in an EE way but in a form and function way. Woz was wildly needed at this point they couldn't afford to pay someone to do it. Once they had a group of EE's he never contributed anything again. Not sure if its because the accident or what. He is a good guy, he contributed a spark that helped ignite Apple. Thats his legacy.

Your well known hate for all things Apple blinds you seeing Jobs for what he was. He was Edison in his own way. Edison was an absolute dick and stepped on peoples faces to get ahead. It really doesn't matter, society owes both Jobs and Edison a heartfelt thank you. If Apple never existed the world loses at least 5 years of computer evolution.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 08:41 AM

http://i.imgur.com/AKDRJ.png

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Otter 10-06-2011 09:09 AM

The man had more influence that I was aware. Apparently unemployment claims rose slightly ahead of the Jobs report.

gblowfish 10-06-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7971649)
Saw it back when it was posted in this thread on page 2 ;)

No big surprise here. Phelps' clan picketed the Lewis Black show when I was in Topeka on Sept 23rd. Their douchebaggery knows no bounds.

The_Doctor10 10-06-2011 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by griZZly64 (Post 7970575)
One less greedy mother****er. Maybe more of them will pass so they can quit hoardin all the money.

Because Steve Jobs is the kind of guy who amassed billions by inheriting it and doing nothing to earn it, right?

Get ****ed with an iron spike, dickwad.

Frankie 10-06-2011 09:46 AM

Steve Jobs' Estranged Father Never Got Phone Call He Waited For

By COLLEEN CURRY | ABC News

Steve Jobs' estranged father, who had given up his infant son for adoption, had been hoping that his grown son would call him. That hope died today.

Abdulfattah John Jandali had emailed his son a few times in a tentative effort to make contact. The father never called the son because he feared Jobs would think the dad who had given him up was now after his fortune. And Jobs never responded to his father's emails.

"I really don't have anything to say," Jandali, vice president at Boomtown Hotel Casino in Reno, Nev., told the International Business Times.

Jandali, a Syrian immigrant, had been quoted by the New York Post recently saying he didn't know until just a few years ago that the baby he and his ex-wife, Joanne Simpson, gave up grew to be Apple's CEO.

Jandali told the Post that had it been his choice, he would have kept the baby. But Simpson's father did not approve of her marrying a Syrian, so she moved to San Francisco to have the baby alone and give him up for adoption.

Steve Jobs Secretive Private Life

Jandali, who is 80, said at the time that he would have been happy to just have a cup of coffee with the son he never knew before it was too late. Stories of Jobs' battle with a form of pancreatic cancer and his liver transplant were public and Jobs' health had deteriorated to the point where he was forced to resign as CEO of Apple.

He was quoted as saying, "This might sound strange, though, but I am not prepared, even if either of us was on our deathbeds, to pick up the phone to call him."

Though he was one of the world's most famous CEOs, Steve Jobs has remained stubbornly private about his personal life, ignoring the media and the public's thirst for knowledge about him ever since he co-founded Apple Computer in 1976.

He was so successful at keeping the details of his life out of the celebrity pages that a Pew poll in June 2010 found that only 41 percent of Americans correctly identified Jobs as head of Apple. A CBS poll that year concluded that 69 percent of Americans didn't know enough about Jobs to have an opinion about him.

Jobs personal life was a story of extremes. Given up for adoption, he created a worldwide giant of a company in his garage, dated movie stars, and had a child out of wedlock who he denied for many years.

Many fans know that Jobs and his wife, Laurene Powell, have been married for more than 20 years; the two were married in a small ceremony in Yosemite National Park in 1991, live in Woodside, Calif., and have three children: Reed Paul, Erin Sienna, and Eve.

Less well-known are the other members of his family. He has a daughter, Lisa Brennan Jobs, born in 1978 with his high school girlfriend, Chris Ann Brennan.
His sister is Mona Simpson, the acclaimed writer of books like "Anywhere But Here." Jobs did not meet Simpson until they were adults, when he was seeking information on his birth parents. Simpson later wrote a book based on their relationship. In the book, "A Regular Guy," Simpson shed light on Jobs's relationship with Brennan and his daughter, Lisa.

Fortune magazine reported that Jobs denied paternity of Lisa for years, at one point swearing in a court document that he was infertile and could not have children. According to the report, Chris Ann Brennan collected welfare for a time to support the child, until Jobs later acknowledged Lisa as his daughter.
The college dropout was a millionaire by the age of 25 and on the cover of Time by 26. By 30, he was starting a second company, NeXT.

During those years, though, Jobs also lived an exciting personal life. He also began a relationship with singer Joan Baez, according to Elizabeth Holmes, a friend and classmate. In "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs," Holmes tells biographer Alan Deutschman that Jobs broke up with his serious girlfriend to "begin an affair with the charismatic singer-activist." Holmes confirmed these details to ABC News.

Deutschman's book also says Jobs went on a blind date with Diane Keaton; went out with Lisa Birnbach, author of "The Preppy Handbook;" and hand delivered computers to celebrities he admired.

http://news.yahoo.com/steve-jobs-est...014119004.html

Frankie 10-06-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 7972019)
Because Steve Jobs is the kind of guy who amassed billions by inheriting it and doing nothing to earn it, right?

This.

The_Doctor10 10-06-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7971049)
yeah, it depends on when you catch him... but if you have followed him as much as I have... it's pretty clear they weren't friends as most people would define the word.

Whatever their relationship, Woz is worth at least a hundred mill. So maybe he and steve werent best mates, but the partnership was clearly beneficial to both of them.

And frankly, I don't understand why you're just coming to shit on the guy when he's down. I know you 'don't like to speak ill of the dead' but you went and did it anyway.

Who gives a damn if he wasn't a nice guy? Especially in the last ten years, he's been the most influential man in the world of technology. He re-built a dying company by learning from his mistakes, and turned it into the biggest company in the world.

Take a day off; what are the odds your precious Android ever gets developed if Apple never bothers to get into the phone game?

Bump 10-06-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7971648)
you'll shit a brick when you see it

http://i.imgur.com/2QAAq.jpg

it doesn't matter who it is, if the death is in the news, these idiots will protest it. It's all about the attention at this point, but they are not doing God any favors here. Every time I see them, it just renews my belief not to believe.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 10:05 AM

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ChiTown 10-06-2011 10:26 AM

Thought this was a pretty cool vid.

http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_...e_you_die.html

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 10:42 AM

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The Rick 10-06-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7970820)
Has anyone heard from "The Rick" yet? Poor guy is probably sobbing in a closet somewhere.

:lame:

The Rick 10-06-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7971073)
The interesting thing here isn't the fact that Jobs died, it's that Apple fanbois are so damned annoying that people rejoice in the death of the guy who ran the company.

Typical Apple fan simply gets enjoyment and satisfaction out of using Apple products and for the most part couldn't care less about what technology others choose to use.

Typical Apple hater (see AustinChief and others) feels the need to attack, swear, offend, belittle, condemn, and disparage fans of Apple products solely because they choose to enjoy and receive satisfaction from products the hater doesn't approve of, or *gasp*...because the fan didn't build it themselves when it comes to a computer.

It's really kind of sad that these "haters" either have this compulsion to always prove that they're "right", or that their lives are so inconsequential that they feel the need condemn and disparage others for having the nerve to think differently than them.

AustinChief is one of those guys who has to prove that he's "right". Notice how he never backs down from an argument and always has to have the last word?

vailpass 10-06-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rick (Post 7972275)
Typical Apple fan simply gets enjoyment and satisfaction out of using Apple products and for the most part couldn't care less about what technology others choose to use.

Typical Apple hater (see AustinChief and others) feels the need to attack, swear, offend, belittle, condemn, and disparage fans of Apple products solely because they choose to enjoy and receive satisfaction from products the hater doesn't approve of, or *gasp*...because the fan didn't build it themselves when it comes to a computer.

It's really kind of sad that these "haters" either have this compulsion to always prove that they're "right", or that their lives are so inconsequential that they feel the need condemn and disparage others for having the nerve to think differently than them.

AustinChief is one of those guys who has to prove that he's "right". Notice how he never backs down from an argument and always has to have the last word?

Fanboi says what?

vailpass 10-06-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7972093)

LMAO

The Rick 10-06-2011 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 7972293)
Fanboi says what?

Right on cue...thanks! :clap:

RealSNR 10-06-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rick (Post 7972275)
Typical Apple fan simply gets enjoyment and satisfaction out of using Apple products and for the most part couldn't care less about what technology others choose to use.

Typical Apple hater (see AustinChief and others) feels the need to attack, swear, offend, belittle, condemn, and disparage fans of Apple products solely because they choose to enjoy and receive satisfaction from products the hater doesn't approve of, or *gasp*...because the fan didn't build it themselves when it comes to a computer.

It's really kind of sad that these "haters" either have this compulsion to always prove that they're "right", or that their lives are so inconsequential that they feel the need condemn and disparage others for having the nerve to think differently than them.

AustinChief is one of those guys who has to prove that he's "right". Notice how he never backs down from an argument and always has to have the last word?

Dude, let me just say welcome to the internet.

Iowanian 10-06-2011 12:09 PM

This morning I watched an interview with Woz.

He didn't seem particularly warm about Jobs as a person
but didn't disparage him either. He talked about what a strong
business mind he had, and said that Jobs always had the best
ideas when they were problem solving.

He did that between mentions of "Apple's excellent line of products" at every corner
of the conversation. I thought that was kind of tacky.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7971726)
Your well known hate for all things Apple blinds you seeing Jobs for what he was. He was Edison in his own way. Edison was an absolute dick and stepped on peoples faces to get ahead. It really doesn't matter, society owes both Jobs and Edison a heartfelt thank you. If Apple never existed the world loses at least 5 years of computer evolution.

And again you haven't paid attention.. I don't have a blind hate of Apple, I have a blind hate of Jobs which bled over to hating what Apple has become. I loved my Apple IIC back in the day!

He was a tool and a he turned Apple's base into a cult full of douchey fanbois.

And you are still not giving Woz enough credit for how brilliant he was before the accident...

88TG88 10-06-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 7970752)
The Creative Nomad Jukebox = The Matt Cassel of MP3 players.

ROFLROFL

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 7972062)
Whatever their relationship, Woz is worth at least a hundred mill. So maybe he and steve werent best mates, but the partnership was clearly beneficial to both of them.

And frankly, I don't understand why you're just coming to shit on the guy when he's down. I know you 'don't like to speak ill of the dead' but you went and did it anyway.

Who gives a damn if he wasn't a nice guy? Especially in the last ten years, he's been the most influential man in the world of technology. He re-built a dying company by learning from his mistakes, and turned it into the biggest company in the world.

Take a day off; what are the odds your precious Android ever gets developed if Apple never bothers to get into the phone game?

He was more than not a nice guy.. he was a thieving prick. (there is simply no excuse for letting your "friend" do ALL the work on a project then stealing $2000 from him) I didn't want to say anything but the constant BULLSHIT about how great he was became too much to bear. Yes he was influential... but from EVERYTHING I have seen over the years...he was a bad human being. He wasn't Hitler bad or anything, just not a good person. People are acting like Mother Teresa died.

And yet again you are clueless in calling me an Android fanboy. I use Android, WebOS, Windows 7 and Linux all on a daily basis... I would drop Android in a heartbeat if something better came along. I'm not tied into some ****ing technology CULT.

Frankie 10-06-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972410)
He was more than not a nice guy.. he was a thieving prick. (there is simply no excuse for letting your "friend" do ALL the work on a project then stealing $2000 from him).

I'm sure there is a link to this accusation somewhere in this long thread. If so would you direct me to it? If not would you provide a link?

Hammock Parties 10-06-2011 12:37 PM

http://files.upit.me/1317973007.jpg

loochy 10-06-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7972422)
I'm sure there is a link to this accusation somewhere in this long thread. If so would you direct me to it? If not would you provide a link?

I've got your link right here:

Story: Steve Jobs is a Thief and Con Man

ChiTown 10-06-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7972437)

Too Soon?

gblowfish 10-06-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972410)
He was more than not a nice guy.. he was a thieving prick. (there is simply no excuse for letting your "friend" do ALL the work on a project then stealing $2000 from him) I didn't want to say anything but the constant BULLSHIT about how great he was became too much to bear. Yes he was influential... but from EVERYTHING I have seen over the years...he was a bad human being. He wasn't Hitler bad or anything, just not a good person. People are acting like Mother Teresa died.

And yet again you are clueless in calling me an Android fanboy. I use Android, WebOS, Windows 7 and Linux all on a daily basis... I would drop Android in a heartbeat if something better came along. I'm not tied into some ****ing technology CULT.

Henry Ford and Thomas Edison were brilliant inventors too, and they were both gigantic douchebags. I think it comes with the gene pool for these kind of guys. Revisionist history always make them look like better people than they were in real life. I also think the cut-throat business environment turns a lot of people in to uber-pricks.

Silock 10-06-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972410)
I would drop Android in a heartbeat if something better came along.

Unless it was made by Apple.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 7972445)
Unless it was made by Apple.

Yep.. that's true.. forgot that part! :D

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7972422)
I'm sure there is a link to this accusation somewhere in this long thread. If so would you direct me to it? If not would you provide a link?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=86

ChiTown 10-06-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972449)

That's your problem? JFC, get a ****ing pair already.

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 12:49 PM

It's like the world lost a John Lennon - I mean Steve was clearly the most outstanding business thinker and almost everybody high up in the technology business recognized that somehow he had the ability to think out new ways of doing things, not just ways to improve what we have (do a better version of something) but do it in a totally different way that the world would swing towards

Fat Elvis 10-06-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7972087)
it doesn't matter who it is, if the death is in the news, these idiots will protest it. It's all about the attention at this point, but they are not doing God any favors here. Every time I see them, it just renews my belief not to believe.

I think you missed the funny.

Titty Meat 10-06-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7972455)
It's like the world lost a John Lennon - I mean Steve was clearly the most outstanding business thinker and almost everybody high up in the technology business recognized that somehow he had the ability to think out new ways of doing things, not just ways to improve what we have (do a better version of something) but do it in a totally different way that the world would swing towards

Comparing Steve Jobs to John Lennon? That's a stretch.

ChiTown 10-06-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7972458)
Comparing Steve Jobs to John Lennon? That's a stretch.

Agreed. John Lennon was a flaming douche.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7972460)
Agreed. John Lennon was a flaming douche.

They were both visionary douchebag hypocrites... so it's actually a pretty good comparison.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7972453)
That's your problem? JFC, get a ****ing pair already.

It's one of many many many examples of him being an asshole. So yeah, that is my problem. I ****ing hate thieves... no excuses.

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 12:59 PM

Oh btw I think I forgot something in my last post:

"It's like the world lost a John Lennon - I mean Steve was clearly the most outstanding business thinker and almost everybody high up in the technology business recognized that somehow he had the ability to think out new ways of doing things, not just ways to improve what we have (do a better version of something) but do it in a totally different way that the world would swing towards"

-Apple Co-founder Steve Wozniak

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 01:02 PM

The List

1. The Jobs family: "In his public life, Steve was known as a visionary; in his private life, he cherished his family. We are thankful to the many people who have shared their wishes and prayers during the last year of Steve's illness."

Tech Leaders and Journalists/Bloggers

2. Apple Co-founder Steve Wozniak: "It's like the world lost a John Lennon - I mean Steve was clearly the most outstanding business thinker and almost everybody high up in the technology business recognized that somehow he had the ability to think out new ways of doing things, not just ways to improve what we have (do a better version of something) but do it in a totally different way that the world would swing towards."

3. Apple CEO Tim Cook: "Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being."

4. Apple's Board of Directors: "Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve."

5. Pixar Chief Creative Officer John Lasseter: "He saw the potential of what Pixar could be before the rest of us, and beyond what anyone ever imagined. Steve took a chance on us and believed in our crazy dream of making computer animated films; the one thing he always said was to simply 'make it great.'"

6. Walt Disney President Bob Iger: "Steve was such an 'original,' with a thoroughly creative, imaginative mind that defined an era. Despite all he accomplished, it feels like he was just getting started."

7. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates: "Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives. The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come."

8. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen: "We've lost a unique tech pioneer and auteur who knew how to make amazingly great products. Steve fought a long battle against tough odds in a very brave way. He kept doing amazing things in the face of all that adversity. As someone who has had his own medical challenges, I couldn't help but be encouraged by how he persevered."

9. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer: "I want to express my deepest condolences at the passing of Steve Jobs, one of the founders of our industry and a true visionary. My heart goes out to his family, everyone at Apple and everyone who has been touched by his work."

10. Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang: "Steve was my hero growing up. He not only gave me a lot of personal advice and encouragement, he showed all of us how innovation can change lives. I will miss him dearly, as will the world."

11. Google CEO Larry Page: "He was a great man with incredible achievements and amazing brilliance. He always seemed to be able to say in very few words what you actually should have been thinking before you thought it. His focus on the user experience above all else has always been an inspiration to me."

12. Google co-founder Sergey Brin: "From the earliest days of Google, whenever Larry and I sought inspiration for vision and leadership, we needed to look no farther than Cupertino. Steve, your passion for excellence is felt by anyone who has ever touched an Apple product (including the macbook I am writing this on right now). And I have witnessed it in person the few times we have met."

13. Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt: ""Today is very sad for all of us. Steve defined a generation of style and technology that's unlikely to be matched again. Steve was so charismatically brilliant that he inspired people to do the impossible, and he will be remembered as the greatest computer innovator in history."

14. Google Research Director Peter Norvig: "Honor Steve Jobs: resolve to do something insanely great."

15. Google head of web spam Matt Cutts: "The tech industry lost an amazing, world-changing person today. Rest in peace, Steve."

Frankie 10-06-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972449)

Thx.

Frankie 10-06-2011 01:28 PM

FWIW:

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Deberg_1990 10-06-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7972474)
The List

1. The Jobs family: "In his public life, Steve was known as a visionary; in his private life, he cherished his family. We are thankful to the many people who have shared their wishes and prayers during the last year of Steve's illness."

Tech Leaders and Journalists/Bloggers

2. Apple Co-founder Steve Wozniak: "It's like the world lost a John Lennon - I mean Steve was clearly the most outstanding business thinker and almost everybody high up in the technology business recognized that somehow he had the ability to think out new ways of doing things, not just ways to improve what we have (do a better version of something) but do it in a totally different way that the world would swing towards."

3. Apple CEO Tim Cook: "Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being."

4. Apple's Board of Directors: "Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve."

5. Pixar Chief Creative Officer John Lasseter: "He saw the potential of what Pixar could be before the rest of us, and beyond what anyone ever imagined. Steve took a chance on us and believed in our crazy dream of making computer animated films; the one thing he always said was to simply 'make it great.'"

6. Walt Disney President Bob Iger: "Steve was such an 'original,' with a thoroughly creative, imaginative mind that defined an era. Despite all he accomplished, it feels like he was just getting started."

7. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates: "Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives. The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come."

8. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen: "We've lost a unique tech pioneer and auteur who knew how to make amazingly great products. Steve fought a long battle against tough odds in a very brave way. He kept doing amazing things in the face of all that adversity. As someone who has had his own medical challenges, I couldn't help but be encouraged by how he persevered."

9. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer: "I want to express my deepest condolences at the passing of Steve Jobs, one of the founders of our industry and a true visionary. My heart goes out to his family, everyone at Apple and everyone who has been touched by his work."

10. Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang: "Steve was my hero growing up. He not only gave me a lot of personal advice and encouragement, he showed all of us how innovation can change lives. I will miss him dearly, as will the world."

11. Google CEO Larry Page: "He was a great man with incredible achievements and amazing brilliance. He always seemed to be able to say in very few words what you actually should have been thinking before you thought it. His focus on the user experience above all else has always been an inspiration to me."

12. Google co-founder Sergey Brin: "From the earliest days of Google, whenever Larry and I sought inspiration for vision and leadership, we needed to look no farther than Cupertino. Steve, your passion for excellence is felt by anyone who has ever touched an Apple product (including the macbook I am writing this on right now). And I have witnessed it in person the few times we have met."

13. Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt: ""Today is very sad for all of us. Steve defined a generation of style and technology that's unlikely to be matched again. Steve was so charismatically brilliant that he inspired people to do the impossible, and he will be remembered as the greatest computer innovator in history."

14. Google Research Director Peter Norvig: "Honor Steve Jobs: resolve to do something insanely great."

15. Google head of web spam Matt Cutts: "The tech industry lost an amazing, world-changing person today. Rest in peace, Steve."

16. AustinChief CEO Chiefsplanet: "Steve was a visionary, but a complete douche. He stole most of his ideas from other people and never credited them. Steve was not a nice person from everything i read. The world is a better place today. Good riddance."

The Rick 10-06-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7972558)
16. AustinChief CEO Chiefsplanet: "Steve was a visionary, but a complete douche. He stole most of his ideas from other people and never credited them. Steve was not a nice person from everything i read. The world is a better place today. Good riddance."

:)

Brooklyn 10-06-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972466)
It's one of many many many examples of him being an asshole. So yeah, that is my problem. I ****ing hate thieves... no excuses.

For my lack of ability to post links, I'll just refer to the fact that there is a Chiefs Planet Facebook page.

I am pretty sure Mark Zuckerberg lied, cheated, and stole his way to an equally world changing place in this world. Yet you don't seem to have a real problem drafting off his successes to funnel people to this website (on which you generate ad revenue for each impression, both those originated from Facebook and elsewhere).

Personally I don't have a Facebook account and never have. I don't have a real problem with what you're saying here, or what you are objecting to in general with the Steve Jobs love/hate. But if you're going to get uber righteous against thievery, you probably shouldn't put yourself in a position to profit off of one of today's greatest modern thieves.

I think there's room for giving blind faith/love to both Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg. As someone alluded to earlier in this thread, it takes a certain kind of person who is maybe willing to step outside those acceptable social norms to get to the next level. For what they have each brought to this world and how they've changed it forever, I think you should cut them some slack.

The Franchise 10-06-2011 02:27 PM

How exactly did he make the world a better place again?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7972619)
How exactly did he make the world a better place again?

This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

Titty Meat 10-06-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972623)
This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

I'm actually more interested in learning how he survived 8 years with one of the most deadly cancers.

Shag 10-06-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972623)
In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

You could say that by doing so, Jobs greatly sped the adoption of certain technologies into society. That adoption rate pushed other competing products into the market, and fostered a highly competitive environment, leading to better products across the board.

I have little doubt that without Jobs, mp3 players, smartphones, and tablets wouldn't be where they are today.

For better or worse, adoption rate is king in the personal technology world, and Jobs was a genius on that front.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7972632)
I'm actually more interested in learning how he survived 8 years with one of the most deadly cancers.

He had islet cell carcinoma. It's a much rarer, and different form of pancreatic cancer. If he had garden-variety pancreatic cancer, he'd have been dead seven years ago. There's no worse cancer.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 7972636)
You could say that by doing so, Jobs greatly sped the adoption of certain technologies into society. That adoption rate pushed other competing products into the market, and fostered a highly competitive environment, leading to better products across the board.

I have little doubt that without Jobs, mp3 players, smartphones, and tablets wouldn't be where they are today.

For better or worse, adoption rate is king in the personal technology world, and Jobs was a genius on that front.

Except for the fact that the history of adoption rates belies the fact that Jobs accelerated it. Look at the exponential increase in the adoption rate from radio to TV, from TV to internet, and from internet to high-speed, for example.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nsLogPRINT.jpg

patteeu 10-06-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7972632)
I'm actually more interested in learning how he survived 8 years with one of the most deadly cancers.

In his Stanford speech he says that his pancreatic cancer was a rare form that is more curable than the standard pancreatic cancer. I'm guessing that that has something to do with his unusually long post-cancer survival.

Shag 10-06-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972645)
Except for the fact that the history of adoption rates belies the fact that Jobs accelerated it. Look at the exponential increase in the adoption rate from radio to TV, from TV to internet, and from internet to high-speed, for example.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nsLogPRINT.jpg

The iPod, the iPhone, and the iPad were not the first to market in their respective genres, yet each sold in high volumes upon launch, dominated the market, and kickstarted the genre. That's purely anecdotal, but I don't think you'd find many that disagree.

Is that a result of current adoption rates, and Apple just happened to time their products as the market was primed to explode? Possible, but I doubt it. Apple is great at making people want their products.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 7972618)
For my lack of ability to post links, I'll just refer to the fact that there is a Chiefs Planet Facebook page.

I am pretty sure Mark Zuckerberg lied, cheated, and stole his way to an equally world changing place in this world. Yet you don't seem to have a real problem drafting off his successes to funnel people to this website (on which you generate ad revenue for each impression, both those originated from Facebook and elsewhere).

Personally I don't have a Facebook account and never have. I don't have a real problem with what you're saying here, or what you are objecting to in general with the Steve Jobs love/hate. But if you're going to get uber righteous against thievery, you probably shouldn't put yourself in a position to profit off of one of today's greatest modern thieves.

I think there's room for giving blind faith/love to both Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg. As someone alluded to earlier in this thread, it takes a certain kind of person who is maybe willing to step outside those acceptable social norms to get to the next level. For what they have each brought to this world and how they've changed it forever, I think you should cut them some slack.

Just to be clear, the CP Facebook page was set up to test some things.. it in NO way is a serious page meant to drive traffic... (heck I haven't checked in over a month)

I have no doubt that Zuck may have been somewhat shady and is a bad person too. BUT I have yet to hear/read anything that is in the same BALLPARK as the crap Jobs pulled. If someone decided to crusade against Zuck and knew what they were talking about, I certainly wouldn't defend Zuck and argue against the person.

of course all this is beside the point because I have no problem using the products of bad people if I don't have an equal or better choice. If the iPhone was the only smartphone around, I'd swallow hard and get one.

I am just pointing out that

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7972518)
FWIW:

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Man I lived that movie. I have it and have been scared to watch it for all the old memories it might unleash.

Shag 10-06-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972678)
I have no doubt that Zuck may have been somewhat shady and is a bad person too. BUT I have yet to hear/read anything that is in the same BALLPARK as the crap Jobs pulled. If someone decided to crusade against Zuck and knew what they were talking about, I certainly wouldn't defend Zuck and argue against the person.

You mean, like stealing the entire idea of Facebook? :)

ReynardMuldrake 10-06-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7972663)
In his Stanford speech he says that his pancreatic cancer was a rare form that is more curable than the standard pancreatic cancer. I'm guessing that that has something to do with his unusually long post-cancer survival.

The sad part is he delayed his surgery for nearly a year when he was first diagnosed. If he had followed his doctors' advice he would still be alive.

Shag 10-06-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972637)
He had islet cell carcinoma. It's a much rarer, and different form of pancreatic cancer. If he had garden-variety pancreatic cancer, he'd have been dead seven years ago. There's no worse cancer.

Good info - thanks. I'd been wondering how he'd survived so long with pancreatic cancer...

The Franchise 10-06-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972623)
This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

Not pissing on his grave.

I'm just trying to figure out why this guy deserves candlelit vigils and all of the news coverage.

AustinChief 10-06-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972623)
This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

This is the most dead on accurate statement in the entire thread.

Though as much as I don't like the man himself, I won't undersell how influential he was because of his ability to market his vision of technology to the masses...

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7972701)
Not pissing on his grave.

I'm just trying to figure out why this guy deserves candlelit vigils and all of the news coverage.

Oh, I didn't think you were in the least. However, there is a fair amount of urine in the carpet padding of this thread.

Frankie 10-06-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7972558)
16. AustinChief CEO Chiefsplanet: "Steve was a visionary, but a complete douche. He stole most of his ideas from other people and never credited them. Steve was not a nice person from everything i read. The world is a better place today. Good riddance."

Didn't Gates steal Mac's idea for Windows?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7972749)
Didn't Gates steal Mac's idea for Windows?

After Jobs stole the idea from Xerox.

TEX 10-06-2011 03:21 PM

Yeah - RIP to a guy I didn't know and don't really care about, who had butt loads of money, invented pretty cool things, and was very smart...

loochy 10-06-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 7972764)
Yeah - RIP to a guy I didn't know and don't really care about, who had butt loads of money, invented pretty cool things, and was very smart...

This is pretty much it.

Dave Lane 10-06-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972753)
After Jobs stole the idea from Xerox.

The definition of creativity is the ability to hide your source. :)

chiefzilla1501 10-06-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7972619)
How exactly did he make the world a better place again?

It depends on if you're open to new technology or scared of it. But Steve Jobs created the market for technologies that a lot of people are so heavily reliant on.

And he made the U.S. a much better place. That's for sure. Before Jobs, the U.S. was getting our ass handed to us in technology. Sony, Aiwa, Panasonic, etc... made our stereos. Our phones were 2-3 years behind the ones sold in Asia. Now they use our mp3 players and our phones, not the other way around.

In the global economy, the U.S. doesn't have a whole lot to be proud of. That's why losing a guy like Jobs hurts real bad. I'm not convinced that Apple can continue to be the force they were without him.

Silock 10-06-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7972678)
BUT I have yet to hear/read anything that is in the same BALLPARK as the crap Jobs pulled

You have clearly not watched The Social Network.

chiefzilla1501 10-06-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7972623)
This is incredibly important. You don't want to piss on the guy's grave, but he didn't exactly invent protease inhibitors or the Polio vaccine.

In some ways, this is almost like the death of the Georgio Armani of Computers. He didn't invent the damned thing, he just came up with ways to make it more convenient, but more than anything, fashionable.

I think you're short-selling how much of a business genius it was. He wasn't successful because he took other people's products and wrapped his Apple brand around it. He had a unique gift for bringing a product to critical mass in a split-second.

The iPod wasn't just a pretty version of an mp3 player. Jobs battled a music industry that was extremely resistant to using mp3s because they viewed them as largely pirated media, and they were too old-fashioned to recognize that this is what consumers wanted. He created a market for mp3s that was way too big to ignore and that was the tipping point for the music industry to finally wake up to the idea that music had to be sold on a different platform. The iPhone wasn't just a phone that could do smart stuff. It required coordination of a lot of external software developers who could rapidly create enough apps to make the iPhone cool to use. If you don't believe that, take a look at how Blackberry screwed the pooch with RIM.

What I disagree with is I think you're presupposing that had Jobs not been around, these innovations would have hit the market anyway. Maybe so, but it would have taken a really long time. The product life cycle isn't smooth. Most revolutionary technologies hit what's called a life cycle chasm and never make it across. And until you cross that chasm, the technology runs into a ton of obstacles.


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