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Sorry Guys that tweet was someone else, I just copy-pasted it.

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@SI_PeterKing Can a John Dorsey leave Green Bay before they are out of the playoffs or does he have to wait like coaches? DenBlee 13:21web

Oh well i asked him anyways **** it. Will be funny if he mentions KC anymore

Peter King's source just left Kansas City. He knows as much as Barry Peraino.

Yes we can.

Monday is the day baby!!

Hell tweet him to ask Scott

Dorsey's wife works for a KC law firm.

This is brand new information.

At least polish it a little.

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Why is everything so quiet on the GM front?

Since he's not the GM, he can leave during the playoffs to my knowledge. Same situation as Gamble in SF.

Kevin Harlan was just on 810 and he absolutely gushed about Dorsey.

Now, keep in mind that Harlan is to Green Bay what Todd Haley is to Pittsburgh for all intents and purposes.

But he brought up some good points. Look at the team John Schneider has put together with Pete Carroll in Seattle.

Needless to say, Harlan thinks Dorsey would be a grand slam home run hire.

Possibly because the Packer are still in the playoffs.

yep, whether it's a choice or a rule

imo the fact that it got so quiet, so fast is because it's probably already been decided. If we were still deciding we would hear about interviews and other candidates.

Maybe Dorsey asked for more time to decide but i doubt it.


Looks like Dorsey is the guy.

I wonder if he'll be introduced at the press conference?

Reid hasn't even done his opening press conference yet.

We'll get a GM.

Agree with this.

surely it would of been leaked

new GM walking around Arrowhead ... somebody would of taken a picture and plastered it all over twitter.

I suppose they could announce that Dorsey is the new GM but he won't be joining us until after the playoff. :shrug:

I wonder if the dumb KC media will even ask the ? and more than once because you know Reid will try to sidestep it.

Why does anyone expect Reid to come out and start listing off his coaches and GM? I wouldn't expect anything other than him saying "hi" and then doing coach talk for 30 mins.

A competent journalist would ask those questions, repeatedly, until they were answered.

Reid's gonna have a grand ol' time in Kansas City away from Philadelphia journalists. Press conferences will be a joy for him.

Isn't it possible that Reid doesn't even have his coaches lined up yet? He could still be in the process of talking with Childress/Shurmur/Pederson. If that's the case, he has nothing to say.

Yep.

Very possible. Could still ask if he's setting up interviews for coaches/GM(s), etc. Every other team is announcing their GM interviews (NYJ/Cle/SD/Jax).

I agree with that. They should, and will ask. I just think it's a bit much to expect Reid to come out and say anything regarding guys who aren't currently part of the team.

"Andy, do you like the city so far? Have you had a chance to visit the Plaza and throw a penny in the fountains? They say there is real magic in those fountains, and I for one believe it." /Kornacki

The sad part is, she could ask that, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

"But think about the children" - Kornacki

That would explain her entre career in KC, magic.

Ever listen to an Andy Reid presser?

Ask those questions for 3 hours if you want, he's not going to give you an answer and ultimately you're just going to look like a raging prick to the brand new head coach.

A competent journalist would recognize this as what it is.

I hope it's Dorsey. I've read nothing but good things about the guy, and I think Reid would defer to him. I have no doubts about Reid's coaching ability, but I do have a little fear of his recent personnel moves.

As I said in the other thread, I just hope she doesn't ask about his kids. :eek:

That would be deserving of a bitch slap.

Dorsey hasn't been picked to visit any other teams yet. Apparently he's a hot commodity, yet no one wants him?

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say he'll be KC's GM

This.

My fear is that he is 'burnt out' and still needs to thoroughly grieve his son's death. I love the hire and will be rooting for him:clap:

Dorsey interviewed with the Chiefs yesterday per Lance Allan from NBC Milwaukee.

:thumb:

:clap:

Burn the tires and light the fires.

Let's get him in here and let him get to work.

Here's the link:

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/186025362.html

I think this would be such a bonus...going with the coach first/GM next approach I figured we'd get a no-name paper-pusher in here. Wow, Dorsey would be a great find.

Lance Allan @lanceallan

Per @NFL source, @packers John Dorsey interviewed with @kcChiefs yesterday. No official decision yet #Packers #KCChiefs #NFL

There's the tweet.

This offseason couldn't have gone better if this hire goes through.

Does the packers seaosn have to be over for DOrsey to sign with KC?

I don't think so. He's not the GM, and not a coach. I think they could come to an agreement ASAP.

this guy could be every bit as important a hire as reid...

want

hmm, nice.

This guy has selected so many players I liked over the years, and has really helped load the Packers with talent.

I really liked Cobb as a skill player, and he has just exploded. I also loved Jordy Nelson coming out (homer pick), and he now has a super bowl touchdown on his resume.

The ONLY thing, if there is something, that concerns me, is that the Packers have not been able to get a legitimate RB. Its been a revolving door. Now, Benson had a nice thing going before the foot injury, but still. No talent/depth at that spot.

Luckily, we have a guy named Jamaal :)

Indeed, the Packer organization knows he interviewed. If he is interested, I'm sure they will say, "Great! Let them know and we'll clear your desk out for you." I'm not being sarcastic or implying a resentment from the Packer organization, but they need to keep moving forward on THEIR draft analysis, which they are probably somewhat protective of.

It will be the best thing for BOTH organizations for this to move forward as rapidly as possible.

He's apparently very particular about who he interviews with and what the job entails. He is very loyal to the Packers.

I've heard though that he won't take this job unless he's provided with some actual power on the personnel side, so it will be interesting to see how they work that out. If Reid truly is willing to put his trust in Dorsey and work hand in hand with him, and if they are both reporting to Clark, that would be a great scenario, because it prevents Reid from making blind personnel decisions unchallenged, which would be dangerous. But we'll see.

Dorsey sounds great on paper. Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson disciple. I would have serious concerns about putting him in charge of a franchise, because as I stated after the whole ***** experience, I don't trust guys anymore who stay in one place for so long in a lesser role and turn down opportunities to move up, because at some level I wonder if that means that they are just too comfortable in where they are and too comfortable in their existing role and don't really have a clear plan as to what they would do if given the reigns to a franchise. That's why I wonder if DeCosta would do well elsewhere.

But with Reid essentially being the face of the franchise, it allows Dorsey to basically come in and roll up his sleeves and go to work identifying players. And by all accounts he has a much more open and less arrogant personality than *****. So I have hope that this would be a good fit...

Well said.

A head coach and a GM working together to ID the best players?!? The hell you say!!

Why would anyone EVER want to join up with the jets? I just dont see the selling points for them like i do with the chiefs???

#1 Draft pick, New head coach? Offense minded team?

Do I smell the Jets interview as leverage for the Chiefs??? :shrug:

What was the date on that tweet?

Who's to say he isn't waiting till after Packers finish their season first. If they make it to the Superbowl and win, he gets to bring a ring with him. I know if I was him and my team had a shot to win it all, I would wait. If the Chiefs didn't feel he would take he job, they would be continuing negotiations with other candidates and Heckert would have been announced as GM today.

Just my opinion.

Ego for the big market is very tempting for many BUT Dorsey is not that kind of guy and it just may be a practice of entertaining particular situations that appeal to him and not to look like he is jumping at the first option only.

But yes leverage as well for sure.

More important! Talent is your life blood.

He would get a ring regardless and the Packers already gave him permission so he is free and clear to do whatever.

:clap:

And how you use that talent:thumb:

Eh, slow down.

Getting a staff in here that can utilize the talent is beyond critical in the modern NFL. All these guys are big, strong and fast. NFL players, by virtue of the fact that they are here at all, are talented.

The head coach and his staff is tasked with getting the most of that talent by either teaching, motivating or utilizing players in ways that maximize that.

No, I disagree completely with you here. In the NFL, the head coach and the staff he is able to assemble is more important than the general manager. They're both critical, but I'd go 60-40 HC.

The RB problem stems more from McCarthy's stubbornness to not adequately address the position, IMO. I've been saying for years that if the Packers ever got a speedback to add to the offense, that would be the final ingredient to god mode.

The decisions to draft failures like Brandon Jackson and Alex Greene are very likely more about McCarthy than Thompson or the front office. I find it hard to believe that a front office can do a great job finding talent at EVERY position except for RB, one of the easier positions to pick great players.

Example: the front office picked up DuJuan Harris, who seems to provide the spark that the Packers were missing all of last year from the RB position. McCarthy uses him cleverly out of the backfield, but we have yet to see him really concentrate on establishing the run with him. That's why so many guys get washed up on that offense.

Look at New Orleans. Is Mark Ingram a bad RB? Possibly, but I think it's more glaring that the only guy who finds success on that team is the one with some real wheels (Sproles). It's very likely more about how the offense is designed rather than the players they're bringing in to try and make a difference.

There's a lot of truthy in this deal right here.

We have to start developing our own players. We have to.

The Lost Carr Effect was a great example of what happens when you don't. GMs don't develop players. They help supply the raw material. It's up to the HC and his staff to mold that resource into value ... both on the field and off.

The obvious advantage of having a GM who can properly and ACCURATELY evaluate talent is ... well ... obvious. Not so obvious is what the coaching staff does with them once they sign up. But it's that work which, over time, creates either football dynasties or roving cow patties.

If we were to somehow acquire a GM who can evaluate and an HC who can develop and, somehow by the grace of God, the two can work together, it's an absolute win for those Chiefs fans whose best clothes are now ruined from constant rending and the occasional soggy flatulence.

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Report: Packers' John Dorsey has interviewed for Chiefs GM job

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...-chiefs-gm-job

The Kansas City Chiefs GM search is on and Clark Hunt said on Monday that they had already begun the interview process. The reported favorite is John Dorsey, the Green Bay Packers director of operations.

According to a report from NBC 26 in Green Bay, Dorsey has already interviewed with the Chiefs.

The interview reportedly happened on Monday.

Dorsey has family ties to the area and has a relationship with Andy Reid, which is part of the reason people quickly connected him to Kansas City when GM Scott Pioli was fired last Friday.

The other candidate that's come up with Tom Heckert, Reid's former personnel man in Philly. Heckert was most recently the GM of the Cleveland Browns, who fired him on Monday. It's unclear where Heckert stands in the process, if at all.

Reid and Hunt both spoke about the vacant GM position on Monday, indicating that the next GM will have control over the personnel.

I know not all hires can not be done as quickly after the interview as Reid's was, but if he's the perfect guy for the job and he interviewed yesterday, why aren't we hearing more buzz about this? Did we interview him and are now looking at other candidates? Is he not interested? Are we not interested? Is he still in KC, or back in Green Bay?

Lance Allan‏@lanceallan

Per @NFL source, @packers John Dorsey interviewed with @kcChiefs yesterday. No official decision yet #Packers #KCChiefs #NFL

somebody needs a Valium

Cant wait til it's official! Looks like he'll be the guy. TBG anything you hearing?

This will be a great addition as far as Dorsey's on field evaluations. IDK him as a man, but it appears he's a college scouting nut. He needs to be the anti-Pioli

In Kansas City? Get the **** out of here with that stuff.

Great insight on John Dorsey.

They probably agreed for Dorsey to be the GM but they won't make an announcement till the Packers are out of the playoffs or win it all.

Very likely.

FAX

Didnt mean to post here

Tee hee!

Jesus Christ. I just asked a ****ing question. I'm not demanding that a new GM get hired here right this instant. I'm trying to analyze shit.

I know, I know.

The concept of a head coach and the GM working to ID the needs of the team and going out and finding the best players to fill said need instead of the GM forcing a metric ton of crap down the head coach's throat is a foreign concept in KC.

Did we hire him yet?

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Green Bay personnel man John Dorsey interviewing for the Chiefs GM job today. Been considered the likely choice since Andy Reid got there

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PBJ Yea did we huh huh :shake: