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So any recommendations for my ebook reader buying need?
Wait for iPad to play with at Apple Store? Buy a Kindle sight unseen or played with? Buy a nook? Use the money to upgrade my phone and wait out the new bloodbath? |
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Macbook wheel?That looks like it sucks big time.It would take me forever to type on that thing.I think it would be cool if they took the key board off of a Macbook and made the whole base a touch pad.You could have a virtual key board like that anyway. |
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Huh. Looks like a fun toy, but I'd rather have a netbook.
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Think Apple consulted MadTV about the name?
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Apple has effed itself with it's OS. They should buy Palm, and WebOS. I'm either waiting for the Microsoft Courier, or whatever tablet comes out with WebOS.
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Courier, as I've pointed out plenty of times, is vaporware at best. And webOS has, thus far, gone nowhere. Android has a better market share than webOS. Apple has not effed itself with its OS. It's simply merging the desktop and mobile computing platforms. You'll see them continue to do this until the touch/tablet idea really takes off. Their OS has positioned them as the leader. It's the one thing they really, really have going for them. |
After reading some commentary online from many non-Apple-fanbois, I think this device is going to be a hit. It's more revolutionary than it seems at first blush.
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both have the improved Ink contrast and have had firmware improvements to tweak the bugs. if you want the additional size i imagine the kindle Dx will drop in price in awhile. |
Not trying to yank anyones chain, but why are these Kindle devices better than holding a real book??
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I just thought of a really great application in my life for one of these: a kitchen computer, which I need. Currently I use my laptop, but this would be pretty sweet. Basically I need to be able to store edit/print recipes, browse the web, and control my music. The size would be perfect as well.
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but a kindle holds 1,500 books with the ability to buy books immediately at the touch of a button. As they mature they will do other things beside being ebooks as well. eventually they will replace laptops completely |
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the Kindle Dx allows for notes for .pdf files and you can upload you recipes to it through a computer if you convert them to .pdf. It's browser is limited right now but it has one. i think Amazon throttles the internet access to prevent much real browsing. by the end of the year Asus is coming out with a couple of different models which are gonna allow 3G and Wifi with a real browser. |
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ASUS DR-950 ereader live shots released
By Chris Davies on Friday, Jan 22nd 2010 <!-- single blog page adspace --> The ASUS DR-950 ereader isn’t the DR-570 OLED-lovely we’ve been hearing about lately, but we won’t turn our nose up at a 9-inch E Ink touchscreen and integrated WiFi and HSDPA. So far it’s yet to show up for playtime, but ASUS have released a few live images (including some comparison shots with the iPhone) just to prove it’s more than a render. http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._5-540x360.jpg The DR-950 has a 1024 x 768 resolution display, supporting PDF, ePub and HTML files among others, and offers text-to-speech and RSS. There’s also 2-4GB of onboard storage – with an SD card slot to augment that – together with a USB port and 3.5mm headphone jack, and ASUS aren’t ruling out squeezing WiMAX into the 0.35-inch thick frame. We’re not quite so ready as Electricpig to declare the touchscreen layer interference-free, and will want to have a closer look (at a real unit, not press shots) to figure out whether it blurs the E Ink panel or not. Still, it’s another interesting looking ereader; let’s just hope the Apple iPad doesn’t sweep the bottom out of the segment next Wednesday. <style type="text/css"> #gallery-1 { margin: auto; } #gallery-1 .gallery-item { float: left; margin-top: 10px; text-align: center; width: 33%; } #gallery-1 img { border: 2px solid #cfcfcf; } #gallery-1 .gallery-caption { margin-left: 0; } </style> <!-- see gallery_shortcode() in wp-includes/media.php --> <dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._1-150x100.jpg</dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon">http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._2-150x100.jpg </dt></dl> <dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl> <dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon">http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._3-150x100.jpg </dt></dl> <dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._4-150x100.jpg</dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._5-150x100.jpg</dt></dl><dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._6-150x100.jpg </dt></dl> Categories: Gadgets Galleries 4 Pages 1234 http://www.electricpig.co.uk/wp-cont...1/dr950-32.jpg <dl class="gallery-item"><dt class="gallery-icon"> </dt></dl> |
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cheaper than the DX?
Asus Ereaders Could Be Launching Much Earlier Than Expected <!-- google_ad_section_start --> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...0x_asus950.jpg The DR-950 and DR-570 weren't expected to go on sale until the very end of the year, but Digitimes is quoting sources as placing the two ereaders on a second quarter release schedule. Asus has commented they haven't yet started producing enough of the ereaders for them to launch, but the initial Q4 release date is looking more and more unrealistic, since photos of the 950 looking very polished turned up on Asus' UK Flickr account the other day. [Digitimes] UPDATED: Electricpig has dished out the UK pricing and availability deets, with an April launch slated for the DR-950, and a rough £250 cost ($403). |
One thing that seems pretty consistent in everything I've read is that you really can't appreciate the iPad until you've held it and used it. I've seen MANY people who were at the event say this. It does kind of make sense. It's easy to point out what we perceive are flaws (I really wanted a webcam), but until I get a chance to actually see it, I'm going to reserve judgement a little.
I got a Kindle for Christmas and returned it in anticipation of the iPad. So I pretty much had $300 (when you count the leather case for the Kindle) set aside for this. In the short time I used the Kindle, I liked it overall. A pretty good experience for purchasing and reading books, although my opinion is that the e-ink screen is overrated. The Kindle sucks though at newspapers and magazines. The way I look at it, the iPad should be able to at least match the Kindle on reading books. Again, this is because I think the Kindle's screen is vastly overrated. However, the iPad should be leaps and bounds ahead of the Kindle and everyone else when it comes to newspapers and magazines. Throw in the fact that you can browse the web and all of the other features, it seems worth the extra $200 when I think about it. |
I didn't read this whole thread, so if this is reposted info, sorry.
But Pretty much this thing will be a nice piece of overpriced FAIL!!! http://gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-...+gizmodo/full+ Quote:
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Have you seen this amazing technology for allowing to take books with you? It's easy to carry, light, and you can read pretty much whenever you feel like! It's called a paperback.
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On the subject of e-books... Browsing the App Store last night on my Touch, found a now-free app called "Classics", which puts 23 classic books in your iPod Touch or iPhone:
Call Of The Wild The Art of War The Iliad The Odyssey The Wizard of Oz Frankenstein The Count of Monte Cristo Treasure Island Dracula Pride and Prejudice Flatland Gulliver's Travels A Christmas Carol The Metamorphosis Hound Of The Baskervilles The Time Machine Huck Finn The Jungle Book 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea Paradise Lost Robinson Crusoe Alice in Wonderland Through the Looking Glass You tap the book on the shelf, then flip the pages with your finger. If you close the book, it puts a bookmark in place. |
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*sigh* What in the holy hell is apple approved multitasking? You can only use itunes and safari at once? I'm sorry man, but BS. Pay out the ass for limited options. No Thanks. |
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Pay out the ass? Seriously? Apple shocked everyone by releasing it at $499. Apple hatas gonna hate, I guess. |
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So you're saying that its ok to only let apple apps multi task. Cool. and you're syaing that this thing will cost less than an iphone. Cool Apple, fanboi's will be fanbois i guess. |
Apple doesn’t want to sell devices that can do everything; they want to find the best form factor to consume some types of digital content, and then focus on them. If you look at it, you can do pretty much everything on your personal computer; by that philosophy, you don’t need anything else besides a laptop. And yet, you’ve now got smartphones and e-readers selling very well. Could it be that one powerful device is not as good as several less powerful, but more focused ones?
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if that 9" asus was out right now and i could get some concrete info i would definitely look at it. I mean the asus is gonna have Wifi/3G and a upgrade memory slot and a full touch screen for $400? cheaper than the DX and with more features gets my attention. |
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If what IJH is saying is true, it's better than no multitasking, but honestly... "Thow shalt only use Mac software." Is a pretty big hit to the device. Then again, Mac people might think this is great since Mac software is the greatest in the universe ever. :( They could have knocked it out of the park with this device and completely taken over the tablet market instead, its a larger version of an iTouch. BFD. |
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There really isn't a tablet market right now. There have been tablets but no one really has done anything worth while in the market. Best thing so far is Courier by MS but as always it's vaporware. I think you underestimate the power of a large iPod Touch. It's not for me, at least right now. I'll wait for a couple revisions before buying. A) the software will mature B) Apple always increases specs and features without raising price and C) if you look at the iPod generations they got increasing features that made upgrading look good, I bet this follows suit. |
Also, Apple is proving that multitasking (except in media sectors like music or social networking like twitter) is an old concept in need of replacement. When you think about it, your iPhone/Touch apps save where you were in the app and what you were doing. Closing and reopening is just like swiping to an open app.
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Kindle 2, IIRC, now has PDF support but that was the only thing different on that chart. I'm with you, though, if I could see the Asus I could make up my mind. But then if I wait for Asus I'll see something else and wait and keep waiting. I'm thinking I should just go with it. Use it for a year or two and then survey the field. Are you siding more nook or more Kindle 2 at the moment? |
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Nook also "Lends" out books compared to DRM with the kindle. Kindle has browser capability and text to speech. I don't care about the text to speech but even the limited/throttled browsing of the kindle is appealing. but .... i hear that even after the latest firmware the Nook is still kind of sluggish with it's clicks and refreshing. dammit i wish i could squish the 2 together and get the best of both. :cuss: i'm leaning slightly to the Kindle because of the responsiveness but in reality i'm going to do my best to wait until April to see the Asus. 35 days and counting ..... |
If the iPad had preceded the iPhone, people would be shitting themselves over both. "Oh my God the made the iPad SMALLER with a PHONE!?"
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I reread my post. I didn't mean the only thing the nook had that the Kindle didn't I just meant the only thing B&N could be perceived about being misleading. Of course, it was only after they made the chart that PDF support was fixed. So they just haven't updated it. ;) I'm going to have to do some digging tomorrow about the Asus. |
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I can get Push notifications when someone e-mails me, or IMs me, or posts to my Facebook account, or if the Associated Press breaks a news story, or if my favorite sports team scores a TD or a run or a goal or whatever. So it's like multitasking, it's just not called that. |
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They could have consumed much more of an initial market just by doing a few of these simple and seemingly obvious things. Most of you know how much I support Mac. But I'm very disappointed in the iPad. The biggest kicker for me is that it's running iPhone OS instead of OS X. That's beyond stupid, and I think it's the detail that will hurt them the most in the end. The biggest market for this type of device is school/medical/record keeping roles. On the go data entry. The iPad will not allow that group to load the software they're already using. Along with Office, or other productivity software. And it will require them to take extra steps with a lot of data transfer, as opposed to just connecting a flash drive or SD card. It limits the HD space for saving things locally too. Even 64GB won't be enough in some environments. I understand the way Apple likes to "out do" certain niche markets, and limit overall versatility to increase specialized functionality. But IMO, the opportunity to take a stranglehold to a much more broad "versatile tablet/ebook/netbook" market far outweighs that. They could have given a pile driver to Kindle, Nook, and netbook manufacturers all at once with this single nifty device. But instead they "iPhone crippled" it and priced it low to compete. Maybe the safe move will pay off in the end, but I think most would have preferred to see the huge splash... |
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My wife uses a desk top located downstairs. It's slllloooowww and needs to be replaced. I could see getting her one of these as a replacement. She 1) plays solitaire; 2) email; 3) internet; and 4) does music. Problem is she has a Zune instead of an ipod. If we can solve the music conversion problem, this might be a good deal for a more portable, comfortable device. Also, she's a huge reader so the reader aspect would be a plus.
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it just has so many things but they seem like they are functioning at 50%, kind of like the first iPhone. I think I'll wait for the iPad G2 before I would to purchase it for my own personal use. My girlfriend is an English Ph.D student and I want to get her a e-reader and after reading this thread I'm curious on what to do....I kind of want to make her the test subject and get the iPad. When does it come out? What do y'all think I should do for her in terms of the e-reader?
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Going to Japan again in March. Gonna be watching movies, and playing poker on this bad boy on the way there.
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it's almost like they deliberately left a bunch of stuff out of the Ipad so they had improvements to add in the next versions. Take advantage of the initial ebook rush to sell crap and then add the real improvements later on when people start to really compare the features.
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I'll be interested in this when it drops to $349 or less. I love my iPod touch but right now, I just don't see any benefit to this Pad that I can't do on the touch other than a bigger screen and less portability. Make it $349 with the 3G already installed and upgradeable storage then we can talk. Probably will take a minimum of 2 years to get there though.
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The iPhone and iPod touch haven't run Flash natively in the years since their respective debuts, and it's pretty clear based on Steve Jobs's presentation yesterday that the iPad won't run Flash, either. When scrolling through the New York Times's main page, for example, where Flash ads or video might have been there were instead broken LEGO icons, big as life on the screen at the keynote.
Predictably, Adobe isn't happy about this, and is accusing Apple of "continuing to impose restrictions on their devices that limit both content publishers and consumers." They go on to say that without Flash support, "users will not be able to access the full range of web content, including over 70% of games and 75% of video on the web." Let's work backwards from this. First of all, I'd be very interested to see where Adobe got those percentages. Apparently YouTube now accounts for a mere 25% of video on the internet? As for Hulu and a few of the other specific sites mentioned in Adobe's rant, now that Apple is in the business of selling content, exactly how is it in the company's best interest to provide access to that same content, through another company's platform, for free? And as far as games are concerned, once again Apple has this covered, through the App Store. Far from being limited, content publishers and consumers will merely have to adjust to a new method of publishing and consuming content: one that doesn't involve Adobe in any way. I know anecdotal data is the worst kind there is, but in nearly a year of using my iPhone to connect to the internet, not only have I not missed Flash, I've been glad it isn't there. Flash's performance on Mac OS X is so abysmal that when YouTube announced an opt-in HTML5 beta to replace Flash, I bounced up and down in my office chair in glee. I can only imagine the bag of hurt that would be introduced if Apple let Flash run on its mobile devices. If you want to know why Flash doesn't run on the iPhone, the iPod touch, or the iPad, why Flash will never run on those devices, and why that's a really good thing, check out this piece by Daring Fireball's John Gruber. One of the key points of Gruber's argument is that Flash is, by far, the biggest source of application crashes in OS X. Flash crashes so often that Apple's engineers went out of their way to create a new mechanism for running plugins in Snow Leopard; in 10.6, Flash runs as its own process rather than being lumped in with Safari, meaning than when (not if) Flash crashes, it doesn't bring all of Safari down with it. Considering Flash's poor stability and fan-blasting, CPU-hogging performance on the Mac, gee, why wouldn't Apple want it running on their mobile devices? Want to see something that "imposes restrictions on content publishers and consumers?" Look no farther than Flash itself. According to the company's own (possibly made-up) numbers, 70% of games and 75% of video on the internet is all shuffled through one company's proprietary plugin. I don't know about you, but that sounds awfully restrictive to me. It seems like a really bad idea to let a single company have that much control over the creation and delivery of the internet's content, don't you think?. With the iPhone and iPod touch we already have tens of millions of mobile devices owned by tens of millions of highly satisfied consumers, and not one of those devices runs Flash. With the advent of the iPad, we can expect millions more mobile devices to hit the market, and none of them will run Flash, either. Thanks to YouTube and vimeo, HTML5's star is on the rise for delivering free video content on the internet, and the App Store has gaming covered. There's no telling what the internet will look like in ten years, but one thing appears certain: if things continue as they have, Adobe will no longer have the stranglehold over video and gaming content that it enjoys today. http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/a...o-impose-rest/ |
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