Does that not say 2002? LJ was in college in 2002 you have the game wrong.........

By the way Holmes wasn't great in that Packers game....yes they ran it so many straight times in overtime but his final line was like 22-76.

I think that Mecca is talking about touches, while Hootie is talking about yards. I don't think they're on the same argument.

Don't worry, Hootie. I'm running along....

so, Trent running the Coryell offense as well as it has ever been run is a bad thing? he's "just" a system QB? the most complex passing system there is, and that's a knock against him?

if this Bizarro Chiefs planet?

Trent couldn't complete 10 passes for less than 200 yards and hand the ball to LJ because he's just a "system" QB?

what in the hell is going on? did everyone leave their brains at the screening of Borat?

I thought he was being sarcastic.

I was being sarcastic dude! read closer i was responding to hootie on basically what he thinks! Should've quoted him, it wouldve made it clearer.

exactly, thank you!

Stupid has been the dish of the day for months now...

I am SO glad you don't coach football.

Hootie can't even get the game/year right when I put it right in the post........

This has to be the worst post of the week. Huard has a better arm? Green is only a "tad" more accurate? What are you smoking?

I want some of what Hootie is smokin, good lord i've never seen such a huge ass man crush on a backup qb

you think Green has a better arm than Huard?

WTF have you been watching?

lol

I don't think he could coach a 3rd grade flag football team to a victory over a team of moving cardboard cutouts.

:banghead:

ROFL

my bad

my sarcasm meter has been destroyed by Hootie's Weapon of Mass Stupidity

I think Green is a better QB, just not a better fit for our hermlified system that is working oh so well...

Good. I agree.

So quit making stupid $#it up and leave it at that...

My take on Huard V. Green
 

I think that Green is the better quarterback.

However, what I think has happened since Huard has replaced Green is that this team has gone from being Trent Green's team to being LJ's team.

In other words, if Trent comes back and manages the game in the same way that Huard has, I think we will be a more effective team than we are with Huard simply because Green is a better QB.

The focus of the offense has completely changed. Huard is a good game manager but I feel that Trent would be even better under the same circumstances.

no no no...Trent can't complete 10 passes...only Huard can....it is a special skill to run a simplified offense.....Green doesn't possess the intelligence or talent....history proves that

do we still want Green over Huard?

Yes you idiot

No way do we want Green over Huard.

Huard is the hot guy and he gets Tony involved.

If we went back to Green, that'd just be like when we went back to Grbac over Gannon. We should of stayed with the hot guy.

We're in a position where we can't afford to drop any games. Does anybody think that Trent can come back and play as well has Huard has been after his time off?

I don't. I think there will be plenty of rust to shake off.

What if we still start Huard for a few games after Green is cleared? If Huard gets too far behind, bring in Green. If Huard gets us way up on the other team, bring in Green at that point as well. I guess I'm suggesting to play Green at backup QB for a few games until he can knock some of the rust off. After a few games, it's gotta be Trent all the way.

thats pretty much my feelings on it. huard should definatly start against miami since its on the road. green should come back at arrowhead.

I would like to see him play backup at Miami and at home against the Raiders. I just think it would be cool to have his first start be at home, on Thanksgiving, with a full house, against the Broncos.

yes

Coming off the bench cold and rusty against that Denver D is asking for trouble.

I would hope he'd get playing time during the Miami and Oakland games.

Any word on Trent Green and if they expect him back this week?

yeah luv, genius...let's let Trent make his comeback against Denver...that's a great way to shake the rust.

Christ people.

Huard's QB rating of 105.2 now ranks second in the NFL.

He trails only Peyton Manning, pending tonights Colts-Patriots game.

I have heard that the Raiders game might be more likely, but I have a feeling he could play against Miami.

The Donkeys pass rush is suspect, at best, and she is not suggesting he take his first snaps against them, just that he make his first start.

Gee, that's just like Green. Only trailing Manning in about every category over the past few years. I think you've got to give a lot of credit to the offense unit as a whole, from the lineman to the coaching and everywhere else. I'm pretty confident that nobody matter which guy we have in there we'll see success. And that's a damn nice thing to be able to say.

IM wondering if when Green returns the game plan will stay the same or change? Huard has only been averaging 15-20 attempts per game it seems.

I can see the passing attempts going up for 2 reasons.

1. To save wear on LJ
2. Green can make more throws than Huard can.

On the other hand, the conservative gameplan has served us well by allowing us to control the clock and rest our defense.

It should be interesting......

If it ain't broke...

In the playoffs, you don't get a chance to fix it.

Huard is playing fantastic football, but he is really being leashed in by Solari and Co. I really believe KC threw out about half the playbook when Green went down. I would like to see Green leashed for a couple of games until he gets his feet wet, and then open up the O a bit.

There really isn't anything to discuss. Green is the starting QB when he's healthy, and I am happy with that. Green was never the problem in Kansas City.

oh, ok...

Incredible.

Remember week 1 when we were trying to be something we weren't capable of being anymore and Herm said he was going to do what he knew how to do...

So that half of the playbook had nothing to do with losing Green and everything to do with Herm wanting to play his style of football...

To expand on this who would give the Chiefs a better shot at winning in the post season, with out a doubt it would be Green.

Would not benifit Green to play as many games as he could prior to the post season?

Green didn't get any protection that game and still got 11-15 completions. The line has improved ALOT since he went down!

Hootie: Have you not appreciated what Green has done for this offense over the past few years? With the exception of Manning, he's been the BEST. And now you wanna bench him because our backup came in and did a great job..?? That's his job. He did it well. We should all be VERY thankful for that, and that we even have the opportunity to talk about possible playoffs, etc. given the fact that nobody thought we had a chance when Green went down. Why? Because he's the man!

Now, as GoChiefs pointed out earlier, Huard is second behind Manning. So now you're given the choice between 2 guys who have done a hell of a job given their chance. Who do you go with? EXPERIENCE!

by your logic we should suit up James Hasty and put him in the secondary...

dude, that's a lame comparison and I think we all know it.

wow how did you create that way back machine, is your name Sherman.

By your logic Huard should start, but Trent is a better QB, makes sense.

This is interesting part of the whole argument. The only reason there's a question is because the team is winning games right now. Then you get that whole, well do you mess with it when it's doing ok...do you dissrupt the current flow...etc. Those are important questions that need to be considered, of course.

The fact of the matter is Green is the better QB. It's very hard to deny that. So the question becomes do you want your possible playoff bound team to be led by the guy who's been 2nd best in the league, week in, week out, for the past 4 years, or with the guy who's done well...this year. A guy who's had many chances to get his starting job and never could.

I think the answer is simple. And again, we can feel great knowing that Huard is right there ready to go when/if needed.

Yes, we do. Damon is just about ready to run out of mojo.

How do you know?

The law of averages?

:)

He's had some close calls on INT's the past two games where he would of looked like a donkey if they would of been returned for a pick 6. I'm just feeling it. Bring back the golden boy.

see, I think Green is the better QB, but Damon is playing as well now as Green has ever played in my honest opinion.

If he can keep up THIS play, then I'm not so sure Green is actually the better QB.

We'll see...

but until Damon has a bad outing, I don't think we should mess up a good thing.

Sorry Trent.

Thats exactly why i dont get all of this jaw-jacking about it, Herm said Trents the man. What more to discuss??? Now if Trent just stinks it up for a game or 2, there might be some justified speculation, but as it stands now its just a ridiculous, monotonous and pointless argument.

STOP THE INSANITY!!!

I'll worry about the close calls when they stop being close calls and start being turnovers...

Bring on the GOLDEN BOY!!

Huard has some chemistry with tony gonzo

Al Saunders never involved Tony Gonz....he doesn't involve the tight ends nearly as much, this year Cooley for Washington is not being used as much as previous. Solari has gotten comfortable and is calling a much better offence now than he was earlier. Solari is calling plays where Tony Gonz is the primary receiver. Here's the deal....with what Trent has done for this organization, being a pro bowler and an excellent leader, you don't disrespect this guy by not giving him an opportunity at having his job back. Period. Warner, Culpepper, Bledsoe....all of these guys' play has merited the loss of their position. Trent deserves to be the starter until he loses it and for the respect of his leaders, Herm knows this.

Trent will likely be a little rusty which makes me a little nervous. If he can't sustain the level that we have been playing, I'm for a change and I don't think he could fight it. But right now, Trent deserves the spot until he looses it.

Manning intercepted!!!

Maybe Damon can move ahead.

offence should be offense and Looses should be loses. I'm tired, been playing recliner coach all day.

you sure it shouldn't be losses?!

I'm sure that all of your whining isn't going to change Herm's mind about Trent. and i agree with him.

Is Steve Mariucci an idiot? He agrees with Hootie...and me....and Jason Whitlock....and Jeff Rake....

He did a great job in Detroit with his QB, I know that much.

He went to work for Matt Millen.

Damn boy. Make up your mind.

are you stupid?

I said, I THINK Trent is the better QB, BUT if Huard keeps it up, MAYBE I'm wrong...

Seriously, it can't be that hard, can it?

Everyone join the trent bandwagon.....oh wait that is 95% of chiefs fans and 100% of their coaching staff!

Perhaps if you read the entire post....

perhaps if you stuck to the lipo threads and stopped posting about football...

You say Trent is the better QB, but yet you're trying to convince everyone he's not.

If Hootie is how I willl act when I turn 21
somebody kill me now

Resorting to fat jokes....typical of a 12 year old mentality.

I'm not trying to convince anyone anything...

Trent is the more talented QB...but Joey Harrington has more 'talent' than Trent and Damon combined...and look how good his NFL career has gone thus far.

Confidence is a great thing in the NFL and right now Damon has a TON of confidence...does Trent?

That's the question WE DON'T have to find out because we can and should keep Damon in there...

I know it's really hard for you all to comprehend such a simple point...especially someone who just learned what a safety was a week ago.

Actually, you never told me what a safety was. Instead of teaching me something, you chose to make fun of me.

The simple point I am trying to make is that you need to stop contradicting yourself and being an asshole.

show me where I contradicted myself...

I already did.

You sit here week after week dissing Trent Green. Asking people to show you or tell you where he "as a Chief" has ever done this or that. Then you turn around and say he's the better QB.

show me where I've dissed Trent Green.

Here are the facts:

I've stated, several times, Trent Green is my favorite Chief of all time.

I've stated, several times, Trent Green shouldn't lose his job because of performance, that he should lose his job because why do we need to fix something that isn't broken.

I've stated, several times, that I love everything that Trent Green has done in Kansas City...but he's not the leader everyone makes him out to be (2004).

Great guy, great QB, but he's 36 coming off a career threatening injury...

I think I'll take the 33 year old with a 5-2 record and a 105.2 QB rating...until he proves he isn't worthy of the job.

He's a better QB but not according to Herm's system....since trent has had a wopping 15 pass attempts and no O-line, since trent has def. played himself out of a starting spot. You don't lose that spot till you played yourself out of it period.

--joeys word----
--trent will return, things happen. too bad---

Uhm Damon hasn't exactly had the best pass protection...I don't think anyone remembers Trent holding the ball for way too long week 1...

The dude showed a lot of heart when he was making plays with his feet...and I know Solari/Herm didn't have the right gameplan...but Trent took a shit ton of sacks last year when Roaf was out and Black was starting as well...

We all think of Trent as the underrated QB that never got any love from the media...a guy who did no wrong...but look back at 2004, I beg you...I remember being more pissed off about Trent Green's play in the 4th quarter than the defense' play SEVERAL times.

Tell you what, if you tell me why Trent is your favorite Chief of all time, and tell me a few of the things he CAN do, I'll leave you alone.

You say you think he's the best, but then you give stats and opinions on how Damon is better. I just want to see you post some good stats about Trent, other than you think he's good. What makes him good?

I think you know what you're talking about. I don't doubt it for a second. You just fail to see (or it appears that you fail to see) both sides of the argument. Instead of making fun of people and calling them names when they ask questions, you might be able to help turn an ignorant poster into a halfway decent one (if I can come up that far). You get respect when you show respect.