at least your friends...

I didn't take it personally, I just wanted to say 'Make Baby Tom Cruise Cry... '

help me, help you help me...

there was less than 24 months difference between the ages of the 2 involved. Heck ... if the months of their birthdays work our right they could be only 13 months difference.

and they went to the same High School



what crime? (other than a criminally insane law)

I guess I just don't get this sexually active = juvenile delinquent connection.

oh really? you are really stupid, blind and naive. if that is your only argument....you don';t think I know it could be worse? this country is evil in a different way than others. You are probably some ignorant, uneducated **** that has 6 kids since you were 25 and are another good example of why I think abortion should be mandatory in this country. because too many dumb****s keep reproducing and having more and more worthless people around. Tell me to move to a different country, yes I am ashamed to be an American...and you are part of that reason dumbass....why should I be proud to live in a country surrounded by idiots like yourself

Then you aren't understanding what i was trying to impart.....it had nothing to do with your equation.....sexually active=juvenile delinquency

Are you telling me that there was nothing illegal going on there?

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Gotta love a guy who doesn't think before posting....and whose short fuse to anger makes hypocrisy of his posting thoughts.

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This could degrade further but Im not sure how.

It doesn't matter if he was the one who got the drugs and alcohol in regards to this conviction as he wasn't charged for that, was he? If they wanted to prosecute him on that then they should have done so. But for the purpose of this discussion, his providing the drugs and alcohol doesn't matter if they didn't make it part of his prosecution.

It's bull shit. To think if his johnson had just entered her vagina (God forbid sodomy) then he would have only done 2 years vs. 10. That is if he would have even been prosecuted in the first place.

It's an outrage that has gone past the prosecutors office. The GA Supreme Court is now an accomplice. And why the hell can't the Gov. pardon the kid.

I haven't heard, did the girls get any sort of punishment here? I mean it seems unfair for them to ruin these boys lives (all of them now deemed sex offenders) over consensual behavior.

The boy aint right! it is good to see he has moved on from the (you are white trash) reply he used whenever he debated someone.

A basic understanding of the appeals process and the rights granted to the GA supreme court and governor provide and easy answer to why they haven't stepped in. They can't under the law. It gives the governor the right to pardon in limited circumstances and the court can only review certain aspects of the case to see if legal standards were violated in reaching a conviction. They don't have a magic wand to do whatever they want.

Also, the prosecutor is bound by his oath of office to prosecute all crimes that fit the criminal code without injecting his own personal standards. He was simply keeping his word to the people. Yes, there is limited prosecutorial discretion. This was exercised by offering a plea AFTER conviction - something that is unheard of. If the plea would have been accepted, with parole, it would only have been two years time, the same amount of time as regular intercourse.

This kid sits in jail due to a series of bad choices he has made and continues to make. Yes, his punishment is excessive, but he is not a victim.

Yeah, yeah, but there is more than just 'the law' going on here. The legislature made new law and then refused to make it retroactive. The SC voted 4-3 on the case down racial lines. Apparently, the prosecutor can ask for a reduction of the charges. He's offered 5 years. He's hunkered down and now, with all the publicity making him look like an embicil, he's probably not going to back down at all.

For some reason, everyone is sticking to the letter of the law. And yes, the young man made some bad choices that individuals his age make EVERYDAY. What makes this case unique and UNFAIR is that the individuals older and more experienced than he are making decisions they don't make every day (witness the lack of prosecution/conviction for similiar circumstances) and seem to be making an exception in this case to make a point.

When you have cowards hiding behind 'the law' to exercise other demons then it's quite difficult for an individual to learn a lesson about right and wrong.

So...should we pick and choose which laws we enforce and which ones we "let slide".....

I am all for leniency....but for everyone to act like this is common everday stuff and we should let is slide is outrageous. How would you feel about this if the girls were your daughters? Irregardless of whether they consented or not, this kid made his choice.

I'm not for having him in prison with all the worst criminal element of society. But this isn't as easy to gloss over as some has inferred in their posts. And he isn't the victim to the depth that this article is trying to portray.

Let me ask this....this kid, we believe, was drinking and maybe taking drugs. Just because "every teen does it these days" (and exaggeration if I have ever heard one) doesn't make it right.

Sorry...the more people post trying to exact sympathy, the less I am prone to exhibit it.

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so charge him with underage possession ... i've got no problem with the police charging ALL OF THE KIDS present with an alcohol and/or drug related charges.

but they didn't that i've heard


they only charged him with a sex related charge ... one that is complete crap.


she was 15 ... but you gotta figure since she was in high school that she was almost 16 and he was 17.

estimate a difference of 17 months difference in their actual age.


no way should that be illegal



no way should his life be destroy because he is labeled a child molestor/statutory rapist/sexual predator and be on the sexual offender list.

he will never get a decent job ... be harrassed by every neighborhood he lives in.

any real quality of life he could have is done ... over.

If they didn't charge him for the drugs and alcohol... that is EXACTLY what these people did.

Oh, I'm not on the 'everybody does it' side of the argument here. I'm on the side of trying to hold this young man accountable in the SAME WAY AS EVERY ONE ELSE in the same situation...which would mean not at all.

The prosecutor found an archiac law and applied it in a fashion that was meant for serial pedophiles and NOT first time offenders. Thus, this young man is NOT BEING TREATED LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

My problem is that he's being singled out and not that he should get a pass because 'everyone else' does it. He should be so lucky to be treated like everyone else. MOF, if everyone else was a consideration here then this young man wouldn't have a concern because it wouldn't be an issue.

CNN is running a special about this topic tonight. Check your local listings for the time.

Hopefully with increased awareness will come increased results. And hopefully prison has not ruined this young man.

BTW, if the girls were my daughters I think I would believe they deserved to be punished as much if not more than the boys. None of them were forced to do a damn thing and if you are 15 and allowing one, two, or more different boys to have sex with you within minutes then something is VERY wrong with you. MOF, I think the parents of these girls should be held accountable as well.

Actually, I believe the other people were charged. They just all plead out. He entered an innocent plea. Regardless, I think the case is a joke, but just want to be sure you understand what happened.

Yes, the other people in this case were charged. Wilson was the only one who refused to plea to a guilty charge. My point was outside of this case it seems this law is not enforced in similiar circumstances.

I had not heard the girl was white. But that was the ah-hah moment I'd been looking for. :doh!:

Wow, you are a total dickhead. Seriouosly, you need to get a grip on reality. So, you also think abortion should be mandatory? Perhaps a communist country like China would be more to your liking. People like you are what is wrong this country, shithead. The truly sad part is that you're too stupid to realize it. :rolleyes:

BTW, you might want to learn proper grammar before you call others names like idiot.

Personally, I don't understand why abortion is necessary. I think it's sad that so many women chose to keep their babies. There are so many people wanting to adopt children it's unreal, and yet instead of giving these kids to a great home, they keep them in a drug filled, poor, and disgusting environment. I think the social services should evaluate any single mother under the age of 22 to see if she deserves to keep her child. There are so many instances where these women become so attached and refused to leave the child even if giving it up for adoption would of been the better choice. It's sad.

I also don't think that keeping the child should be a joint decision. I don't think you should abort your child, but to some point that has to be a personal choice. I don't understand why a guy is considered a horrible person because the girl he knocked up has a child, and doesn't want to keep it. The girl always has a choice if they wanted to keep the child, have an abortion, or give it up for adoption. The guy has no choice at all. I think if the guy wants the child up for adoption, and the woman doesn't he shouldn't have to pay child support and the child should be put up for adoption. If they both agree, then yes the man should pay child support. If they both do not want the baby, then they should give it up for adoption.

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