Originally Posted by PGM (Post 4793654)

Heck this is the only year in recent times the Chiefs have that much cap room, so i have no idea what Mojo is talking about. We are not consistently the lowest payroll in the league. The problem was spending the money on older players that didn't do crap and shitty drafts. Heck i'd rather do the approach we are doing now than blow money on over the hill vets.

Originally Posted by Alices Allstars (Post 4792637)

I've been a Chiefs fan for a long time, I totally understand your point of view.

There was a day when the "lower class" people supported each and every NFL franchise. Today you have to be upper middle class to be recruited to be a season ticket holder.

I'm very disappointed in much the same way that BRC has been. I dont' see the product getting better and I see the prices escalating{sp} beyond what I'd want to pay.

I'll probably be a Chiefs fan for al slong as I watch professional football, but I can see a day when I become disinterested to the sport because of the attitudes of the franchises and the decreasing fanaticism of those that watch the game. I dont' think the sport will cease to exist but it has become such a big business that the fans are no longer really considered necessary.

Being a real fan is not related to being a season ticket holder nor going to all the games in my opinion, it's more the heart connection to the red and gold.

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising (Post 4794502)

We have been in the lower 1/3 of player cost for some time.

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

http://ballhype.com/story/02_14_2008...er_salary_cap/

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

Don't you remember in '02 when our D was horrible and we didn't sign any D help because we spread Holmes and Greens signing bonuses over 2 years?

Would have been nice to retain home grown talent like Allen that doesn't require going to the open market. He proved he was willing to sign a deal that limited the risk of a 1 year suspension if you look at the deal he signined with the Vikes.

Originally Posted by Mojo Rising (Post 4794502)

We have been in the lower 1/3 of player cost for some time.

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

http://ballhype.com/story/02_14_2008...er_salary_cap/

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

Don't you remember in '02 when our D was horrible and we didn't sign any D help because we spread Holmes and Greens signing bonuses over 2 years?

Would have been nice to retain home grown talent like Allen that doesn't require going to the open market. He proved he was willing to sign a deal that limited the risk of a 1 year suspension if you look at the deal he signined with the Vikes.

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 4820342)

This thread seems as good of a place to put this as any. Rather, there is no point in starting a new thread based on the rantings of some lunatic from another board.

I was looking up something when I saw a thread (about 2/3rds down) from some guy claiming the Chiefs have lost 26,000 season ticket holders this year.

http://gatewaycityradio.com/messageboard/kcboard.asp

If true, ouch, that’s about 1/3 of all seats and it would be a higher percentage of STH since not all seats are/were held by STH’s. I was trying to find confirmation somewhere, has anyone heard or seen anything?

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 4820393)

an Arrowhead insider would be the only real way, well place in sales/marketing. That isn't a number they want to advertise. 25K STHer turning in tickets

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4820450)

Not a chance of getting real numbers out of Arrowhead. King Carl spent years trying to tell ua there was a waiting list long after there wasn't a list anymore.