Yep.

The year before.

There was individual improvement over the course of the first six games. Albert, Carr, Flowers, Charles, etc. While the team didn't necessarily improve, those players and others did improve.

With the addition of Bradley after the bye week and the change to the spread offense, the Chiefs offense matured and improved considerably.

It's a damn shame that the Chiefs front office and coaching staff weren't able to identify Thigpen as THE QBOTF in the off-season because it's possible that this team might be further ahead right now. But then again, they might not.

Herms draft record with the Jets is like it is here..up and down so pretty average when you balance it out.

The draft is a crapshoot for any team.

Yes, he was.

But those who would argue that Herm and his staff can't develop talent are just plain dumb because there's no way you're going to convince me that Abraham was "developed" by Al Groh in one year.

The thing that all these people who play the "development" card are missing is that you can't get blood from a turnip.

And the Chiefs have drafted a lot of turnips on the defensive side of the ball for the past decade.

This excuse just makes no sense at all.... Save his own ass? Herm will go conservative when the heat is off?

What heat? What pressure? Clark hasn't said or done shit. Everybody knew we were going to suck this year. Herm's job was never on the line, and it's not on the line now. If it was ever on the line, he would have been fired after the home opener. To say that Herm changed the offense "to save his job" is just stupid. He's proving the majority wrong with the offense, and some people are butthurt. The same people who said he'd never deviate from the R2P2 offense. He'll never pass the ball. He hates TDs. Nothing but fieldgoals. Up the centers ass and punt. Well BS.....

EXACTLY!! I miss that ****ing monkey!!!!

Aw heck...we don't need Jared Allen when we have Tamba Hali.

Jesus ****ing Christ, do they even have a copyeditor at CBSSports.com? It's like they just vomited a bunch of commas, colons and semicolons all over that sentence.

Dude, what r u spewing about? The change to the offense is the ONLY good thing Herm has done this year. The O is coming around. Don't complain about it.

FYP.

You're a day late and a dollar short; we've already been through this and reached a consensus.

Man I HATE Herm as the HC of my favorite football team. I keep holding out hope that he'll get shit canned after the season, but that doesn't seem to be the case. :shake:

This always cheers me up when I have Herm-Rage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BYzaDwNoE

Chaser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjxb...eature=related

IF done correctly you can set up the run from passing in the spread, tweak what the PATS and Eagles did in the past.. The problem is I don't see them sticking with the style they are playing right now next year.. It is not Herm or Carl's m.o. to do it..


But we still need to fix the defense..

"Shaak-Ti" ???

Agreed.

There is a very simple way to get to the playoffs running the football out of the shotgun. It is called a top ten defense.

Since Thigpen took over at QB, we have scored over 23 ppg and ran for over 120 ypg at over 5 ypc. None of this matters. We are giving up 30 ppg. No team will win more then three or four games giving up 30 ppg.

Ewww WTF is that?

Best post of the thread.

It seems weird that he'd change his offensive philosophy (which so far has been to destroy any vestige of a functional unit) and rebuild it with Tyler Thigpen as the center-piece. He's done a good job but, come on! He's an NFL Europe version of Derek Anderson.

That might be harsh but Herm is definitely an NFL Europe version of Rich Kotite.

If that's where we're headed, then it is QUITE safe to say that our Draft Day QB pick need not be "Old School Pure Pocket", and that our possibilities/choices increase considerably.

This makes a guy like Stafford not nearly as deathly important to the Chiefs, and it opens the door for Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, and Tebow*, yes?

*See the Panda:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/89a0306c.jpg

I can't recall the species name, but the two-tone color pattern around the eyes look somewhat similar to your lady-friend there.

Post beach? Tanning Bed? Inquiring minds want to know!

We should have one soon, We have Herm and he is a defense fixer...

:clap:

Agree 100%, Very solid post!

"..like look at a little different offensive linemen."

What kind of trade value do you guys think Albert has?

The flaw in your logic is not accounting for the play of the Chiefs defense. So your argument is invalid.

I figured it was a brain fart on his part.

I don't recall the Buffalo Offense as being the party responsible for the Ultra-Bitch Slap our own offense enjoyed at Arrowhead 2 weeks ago.

Argument = VALID.

And you're the Dick Macpherson of Chiefsplanet.

I hope you know you're agreeing with a lead paint eating Drano baby

Mmm...Lead Paint; the gift that keeps on giving!