I think the nature of that last rushing touchdown and the yards after contact are souring people's perceptions of how the Chiefs did against the run. On paper it wasn't that bad. It was facepalm worthy at times though.

jwhit...when you used the phrase hellhole in conjunction with Vraebel, was it from his POV for effect, or is that how KC and Chiefs are perceived around the league? both?

Oh, well shit.

Let's just petition the league to strike that run from the stat sheet, and we can all sit around and talk progress.

173 yards rushing, 4.2 per carry, and 2 TD's.

The defense kept the Chiefs in the game until very very late in the fourth quarter.

If the offense had bothered to show up before garbage time...

Welcome back, Vermeil.

LMAO

Other than those 3 TD's we gave up, the defense was awesome!

It counts for something.

Like I said, the defense kept them in the game. Do either of you really disagree?

The defense gave the Chiefs a chance to win today.

This defense sucks butt, it's slow and gives up huge plays, trying to defend them is not worth the time.

he had a larry johnson esque YPC for most of the game...

we lose because we are terrible on 3rd downs and against the pass

We gave up over 400 yards of total offense. What can we really praise?

Yes, our offense didn't help out the D, but...****, man. The D didn't exactly help out the D. Last I checked, Mike Brown wasn't playing O.

Someone find me a team with a slower back 7 than this one...

In fairness, if the O wasn't so pathetic, the D would not be as bad.

Come on you stupid shits.

It was 17-6 in the fourth quarter before the defense finally had it's back broken because it had been on the field all day.

If the offense converts two short fields into two touchdowns instead of pathetic field goals....we're right there.

IT'S OK TO POINT OUT POSITIVES YOU JACKALS

I agree 100% with as much as the Defense was on the field they held on just enough to keep with in striking distance..... nobody is saying it was a great performance by any means but they did a commendable job of keeping the game close

We have to play a certain style to help out our D...right, boys?

Where did we hear this piece of brilliance before?

Our rushing D was ranked 26th going in and gave up 173 yards today.

100 hundred ****ing seventy ****ing three.

Nobody is saying that. Would you knock it off?

This was not 37-7 revisited but all of you are acting like it was.

Pathetic.

Dorsey, Jackson, Morgan, DJ (when he was in on that one play, before Haley realized he was in and promptly pulled him).

It was Jacksonville who kind of sucks...I'm proud the Chiefs defense could hold the shitty Jaguars to 400 yards of total offense.

This D would be a shit ton better with a serious upgrade to Mike ****ing Brown in the secondary.

That mother****er is an arsonist.

DJ causes the fumble then he gets to go sit down...I wonder if Morgan will sit next week...

they had the 11th ranked offense going into the game so yeah that's a pretty shitty offense... I wouldn't want Jones Drew on my team :shake:

I heard Chambers will be benched for making Long look bad today

and do you think that's because the Jaguars softened our defense by using the pass all game to finally open up the run game?

Outside of the Jennings run, the defense was solid against the run all game.

Jacksonville was 3-4 with a -44 point differential going into today. They just lost to an 0-6 team by 3 scores and they whipped our ass with a 2x4.

Can't say I was shocked.

The guy barely sees the ****ing field, but has made more plays than any other defender.

Then promptly returns to the bench.

Whitlock, with all of the info you've managed to troll up in this thread, I'm expecting a damn good article from you. I guess you were just out of ideas on what to write about that hadn't already been written?

well if we just would have stayed with the wonderful 4-3 defense there is no way they get that much :shake:

That's bullshit, and you know it.

whoopty ****ing do... that does not change the fact that their offense has moved the ball well all year and have some talent on that side of the ball

why you should die in a gawd dam fire...


Seriously, a bunch a bitchy little girls bleeding into their fresh white panties for the first time. I hope you all get together and have a Jonestown party and drink up. :shake:

Our defense had given up 62 yards rushing 10 minutes into the 1st quarter, 85 by the end of the 1st quarter, and 109 by halftime.

The run game was going from the time the Jags ran out of the ****ing tunnel.

Look at the defenses they've played, dipshit.

St. Louis
Houston
Tennessee*2
Seattle
Arizona
Indy
KC

Outside of Indy, all those defenses are either below league average (Arizona) or are ****ing horrible (Tennessee, St. Louis, Houston, Seattle, KC)

you play who is on your schedule and they moved the ball on all of those teams so keep making excuses but that is a top 15 offense.... so it's not like we were playing the raiders out there

We got eviscerated by a team with David Garrard at QB and Mike Sims-Walker as their #1.

I guaran****ingtee that team does not finish in the top half of the league in O.

special teams and field position kept the chiefs in the game. you don't know what you're watching.

This.

24 points is hardly eviscerated.... Sims Walker and Jones Drew are good offensive players.... Garrard isn't a bad QB.... I wouldn't be surprised if they finished in the upper half of the NFL with the way they can run the ball

Good God, our defense played good today?!

I understand our offense didn't help them out much, but they have to do better.


If this is a good defensive day, I would hate to see the bad games.


Antifreeze all around.

So mediocre is now good and 430 yards allowed is hardly eviscerated:

http://i30.tinypic.com/1olq2s.jpg

This reminds me of the reactions after the Ravens game.

Anyone who thinks they played well today...430 a game would put you last in the league and I think would set a record for yardage given up on a season.

Good Comparison.

"You aren't going to get blocked punts and 70 yard INT returns ev---"

"OH SHUT THE **** UP!! HALEY ALREADY HAS THIS TEAM TURNED AROUND. WE FINISH 7-9, EASY!!"

I honestly dont give a shit about yards..... if you hold a team to 24 points thats not good... but thats hardly being eviscerated especially when you are on the field the whole ****ing game

Welcome back, Chiefs football.

No. That is when everyone had optimism.

You should care about yards because it means you're getting you're ass beat and aren't getting off the field....

The Ravens put up 500 and people tried to act like that was a good performance it was sad.

No way. This is completely different.

Where was the fluke in this game?

ROFL

Holy ****.

I am not saying they played well or I that I am satisfied..... I thought they did an ok job of helping keep the team keep within striking distance.... I thought Dorsey and Jackson played well and that Morgan has some promise.... just looking for some positives that is all

GUESS WHAT, DUMBASS? IF YOU GIVE UP A SHIT TON OF YARDS YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE FIELD ALL GAME!!

They showed a shot during the game of the sideline, and the three players in the frame were Lance Long, Chris Chambers, and Leonard Pope. We're really not that far from having 22 guys off the street on offense.

Savage
Cox
Gutierrez
Bradley
Long
Chambers
Pope
Ryan
Niswanger
O'Callaghan
and so on.

How many games have the Chiefs lost even though they have been on the positive side of the turnover ratio?


Dick Vermeil has to be baffled by the Chiefs amazing way of losing against all odds.

Oh, and I think we're still in the playoff hunt. We just need to ignite.

gee I thought it had to do a little with the offense not moving the ball at all.... I also thought points had a little to do with it as well..... lighten the **** up francis... don't you have some dog shit to get rid of?

Ignite like a match being dropped into the Pacific ocean.

When you win the turnover battle and lose that means you are a truly awful team.

true...... but when you constantly go 3 and out the other team doesn't really even need to force turnovers

I'd like you to ask Haley if he thinks he's in over his head when your at the presser. C'mon, grow a set and ask him, just what the hell is he thinkin' about out there?

Ignite what? The jet fuel of our opponents' charter flights?

They have to be breaking another record reserved for losers.


Last year it was sacks.


This year will be most losses while winning the turnover battle.

Yeah, he might say yes! :rolleyes:

and possibly the worst 3rd down conversion percentage in NFL history .... lets shoot for that one as well :doh!:

Actually the record would be for rushing TD's. We don't have one yet, do we?

Good point.


The commentators reminded us about 25 times today.


****

Nope.

We had 8 in one game once upon a time.........

ha forgot about that one..... I'm sure Cassel will fluke one in at somepoint :shake:

Thigpen has our last one. 10 games ago.

ROFL

Is it football season yet, I mean, isn't pre-season over bout now ?

I knew this was going to be a bad year, but this bad ?

Best to wait and see if the kids and HC learn anything from this season.

It's pretty ironic. We used to be automatic when it came to scoring rushing TD's.


Now it would be an amazing accomplishment.


Move over Moon landing, we might have a Chief's rushing touchdown!

Pussies gather in large groups on an intraweb to bitch about our lack of production. Winners gather behind closed doors and think of new ways to stick our heads in the sand.

ROFL

Perfection.

Thanks for the laugh.

ROFL

Rational fans gather in large groups on teh intertubes to point out positives from a close loss on the road. Drafturbators gather in small groups to bitch regardless of what happens on the field.

Yeah, and Baltimore was a close loss too.

Christ, wake the **** up, dude.

You want a positive?

Here's two:

The OL played marginally better, though they were up against a team that hadn't gotten to the QB before today.

Morgan played pretty well.