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Titty Meat 12-04-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6316228)
Briscoe is like a 5th round pick, why would you declare early to be a mid round pick?

A 5th round pick? That guy is slow as ****, he won't be a good NFL player.

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 6316237)
Late 2nd, at worst a 3rd.

His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

|Zach| 12-04-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6316245)
:rolleyes:

Sounds like many of the big 12 players... Whats your point?

Does it?

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6316236)
What's he gonna be after next year with a new coach and everyone getting used to a new system?

I dunno how about get that free degree seeing as he doesn't have much pro potential either way.

OnTheWarpath15 12-04-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 6316237)
Late 2nd, at worst a 3rd.

He's going to have to shave some serious time off his 40, and learn to run the route tree before anyone considers him a 3rd round pick or better.

Reerun_KC 12-04-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6316257)
Does it?

:doh!: Shit dude I forgot that ONLY KU players are brainless thugs... What was I thinking?

kepp 12-04-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6316252)
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

From what I've heard, he could challenge Vince Young's wonderlic score.

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6316252)
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

What do you think of DA of mizzou

Reerun_KC 12-04-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6316261)
He's going to have to shave some serious time off his 40, and learn to run the route tree before anyone considers him a 3rd round pick or better.

Agreed, probably not a good move, maybe should of waited to see who they brought in to replace Mangino first....

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:15 PM

For everything Briscoe has done at the college level, he's a very marginal pro prospect.

He's basically a shitty version of Adarius Bowman who is still not in the league.

Reerun_KC 12-04-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6316269)
From what I've heard, he could challenge Vince Young's wonderlic score.

ROFL

That is pretty bad, VY's barely gave him enough brain cells to breath...

ChiefsCountry 12-04-2009 01:16 PM

I hate to say it but Herm would probably be a damn good college coach. He could be like Pete Carroll. If he could recruit, which I think he probably could with a pro-set offense and Cover 2 defense lots of kids with NFL dreams would bite on that, he could do it. You can get away with lot of his coaching mistakes in college with elite talent.

OnTheWarpath15 12-04-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6316271)
What do you think of DA of mizzou

Scott Wright has him as the 6th best WR, IIRC.

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:18 PM

For Alexander, his 40 time will have a ton to do with his draft position. Because of the knee and all of that.

He has size, but being from the gimmicky offense does hurt him.

Reerun_KC 12-04-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6316278)
I hate to say it but Herm would probably be a damn good college coach. He could be like Pete Carroll. If he could recruit, which I think he probably could with a pro-set offense and Cover 2 defense lots of kids with NFL dreams would bite on that, he could do it. You can get away with lot of his coaching mistakes in college with elite talent.

:cuss:

|Zach| 12-04-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6316266)
:doh!: Shit dude I forgot that ONLY KU players are brainless thugs... What was I thinking?

Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

Titty Meat 12-04-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6316252)
His projected 40 time is a 4.7 if you pull up WR rankings he's always in the 20's, explain to me how that puts him that high.

4.7 is being nice. Did you watch the KU game where they had a WIDE OPEN reverse and he gets out ran to the corner by a defensive end?

Kerry Meier could be a nice prospect though.

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6316279)
Scott Wright has him as the 6th best WR, IIRC.

Not bad, i wouldn't mind the chiefs taking him if he is a mid round guy but his injury history is scary

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6316280)
For Alexander, his 40 time will have a ton to do with his draft position. Because of the knee and all of that.

He has size, but being from the gimmicky offense does hurt him.

Yeah i dont know what he'd run, but i think he could be a solid pro if healthy

Titty Meat 12-04-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6316283)
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.


Gabbert that ****er!

Bearcat 12-04-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6316195)
Basketball, atleast you have that...

I think there is hope for KU football, it looks bad now but atleast there may be more interest than there was before mangino

Hey, we bring up basketball. That's our thing! Get your own thing.

I dunno, I could see it going either way at this point... back to irrelevance or back to at least fighting for the North.

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 6316293)
Hey, we bring up basketball. That's our thing! Get your own thing.

I dunno, I could see it going either way at this point... back to irrelevance or back to at least fighting for the North.

I would like KU to atleast be decent, makes the games more fun. It wont matter though if mizzous d is crap, they'll make ku look good even if the team sucks

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:21 PM

I don't think Kansas has any legit pro prospects outside of Stuckey who is a solid prospect so anyone declaring early from there is just baffling.

OnTheWarpath15 12-04-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6316288)
4.7 is being nice. Did you watch the KU game where they had a WIDE OPEN reverse and he gets out ran to the corner by a defensive end?

Kerry Meier could be a nice prospect though.

Meier's 40 time isn't much better. 4.65 at best.

The only possible decent NFL prospect at KU is Stuckey, and he'll likely be a 2nd/3rd.

Titty Meat 12-04-2009 01:23 PM

Yes but Meier is an athlete where Briscoe is pretty much all about size.

I can't believe KU fans would be pissed about Herm Edwards, his philosphy is exactly what it will take to beat Big 12 south teams.

Jerm 12-04-2009 01:24 PM

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schadjoe KU WR Dezmon Briscoe will enter NFL draft. "I have nothing left to prove in CFB." Told me he was gone no matter what.
Errrrmmmm ok Dez....whatever you say.

Saulbadguy 12-04-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6316283)
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

I don't think I could name a "brainless thug" on KU's team other than Briscoe, TBH.

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:24 PM

Meier will be lucky if he makes the practice squad somewhere

CoMoChief 12-04-2009 01:25 PM

Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

Sure-Oz 12-04-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6316307)
Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

Good HS coach

|Zach| 12-04-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6316303)
I don't think I could name a "brainless thug" on KU's team other than Briscoe, TBH.

That is probably why you didn't say "many" Big 12 players are that way.

|Zach| 12-04-2009 01:26 PM

They wanted Kelly on as QB coach at Kansas before he got hired at Blue Springs.

Mecca 12-04-2009 01:26 PM

Dez Briscoe thinks he's Dez Bryant apparently.

It isn't even a good WR year and Briscoe still will be lucky to have his name called by the 5th round.

Titty Meat 12-04-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6316304)
Meier will be lucky if he makes the practice squad somewhere

I just think Meier would have a better chance at making it to the NFL before Briscoe would. Plus lost in all of this is Briscoe is a risk off the field too.

Saulbadguy 12-04-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6316307)
Here's a coaching prospect: Former KU QB Kelly Donahue - Head Coach Blue Springs HS

:rolleyes:

Saulbadguy 12-04-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6316319)
I just think Meier would have a better chance at making it to the NFL before Briscoe would. Plus lost in all of this is Briscoe is a risk off the field too.

Hence "brainless thug".

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-04-2009 03:54 PM

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/v...staTheHutt.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-04-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6314705)
Neither Mikey nor I are a Mizzou fan, so I'm not sure why you'd say that.

Here's one for the road.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1265xuc.jpg


ROFL
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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6315083)
The End of an Era.

Those 2.5 years of KU football relevance was AWESOME!!!11

Don't worry young Ari, there will always be.....

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Mosbonian 12-04-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6315502)
okay guys here's what I heard....

Mangino has been being pushed by Perkins for the last 2 years to do more national interviews, glad hand with alumni and basically do more to grow the program but Mangino only wanted to coach football. He felt all that "other" stuff took away from the point, winning football. Perkins point was that Kansas football needed to grow to be a BCS contender every year. Media and money was an important part to making that happen.

Disclaimer.....This came from a budddy's realitive who works in Perkins office. So take it for what its worth, grain of salt etc.

Insert Billy Gillespie and you have the same situation with him at Kentucky only in Basketball....

mmaddog
*******

ChiefsCountry 12-04-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6316301)
I can't believe KU fans would be pissed about Herm Edwards, his philosphy is exactly what it will take to beat Big 12 south teams.

Herm would be a better fit at Nebraska actually. He could recruit top flight talent there, not so much at KU.

Terribilis 12-04-2009 09:28 PM

Damn Basketball Jones is over the top. I had never seen that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-04-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Terribilis (Post 6317328)
Damn Basketball Jones is over the top. I had never seen that.

The 70's were quite the different time.

salame 12-05-2009 12:48 AM

http://www.derrich.com/img/mangino-v-obie.jpg

|Zach| 12-05-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6316283)
Lately it kind of seems to be that way. But are you going to really stand behind your comment that "many" Big 12 players are brainless thugs? You would think if it was "many" some Mizzou playmaker or players would be included in that.

Gabbert
Washington
Alexander
Hoch
Gregory
Watherspoon
Smith
Coulter
Baston
Henry
Ressell
Gettis

Name me the brainless thug.

Bumb for Reerun

irishjayhawk 12-05-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6317853)
Bumb for Reerun

He's not on that list but he goes by the handle |Zach|.

Wait, yes, I went there. I went that lame.

|Zach| 12-05-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk (Post 6317866)
He's not on that list but he goes by the handle |Zach|.

Wait, yes, I went there. I went that lame.

That was assumed.

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 01:58 PM

I think Perkins will find a good candidate to replace Mangino. At least I hope so. I plan on buying season tickets for next season.

Coach 12-05-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6318207)
I think Perkins will find a good candidate to replace Mangino. At least I hope so. I plan on buying season tickets for next season.

I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6318218)
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

I could be wrong but I think Kale Pick will be a good QB. And I think that McDougald will be a good WR.

KcMizzou 12-05-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6318225)
I could be wrong but I think Kale Pick will be a good QB. And I think that McDougald will be a good WR.

What an unfortunate name for a QB.

Pablo 12-05-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6318339)
What an unfortunate name for a QB.

Haha..yeah, most definitely.

Lzen 12-05-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6316197)
Actually I think your right... I could be a good situation and regardless what Negative Mecca says, Hes got no ****ing clue who is going to KU or who will turn it down....

You gotta understand. For people like Mecca, there are a few power programs and anyone that is not those, they don't mean jack to him. It's also why he whines about other programs that run spread offenses. You know, because USC runs a pro style.

Lzen 12-05-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6318339)
What an unfortunate name for a QB.

Kale says perhaps not.

Sportscaster: And the Jayhawks marched right down the field for the TD. Most of the yards were gained through the air as Kale picked apart the defense. ;)

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 6318677)
Kale says perhaps not.

Sportscaster: And the Jayhawks marched right down the field for the TD. Most of the yards were gained through the air as Kale picked apart the defense. ;)

It will go both ways.

Braincase 12-05-2009 07:31 PM

Newfeed during the Big 12 Champy says KU is interviewing Turner Gill.

Brock 12-05-2009 07:34 PM

Report: Turner Gill to interview for Kansas opening

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By J. Brady McCollough - Posted on 05 December 2009

Buffalo coach Turner Gill will interview for the Kansas head coaching vacancy on Sunday, CBS' Tony Barnhardt said during the SEC Championship pregame show.

Gill, a former quarterback and assistant coach at Nebraska, led the Bulls to the 2008 MAC championship and their first bowl game in 50 years. Gill was a candidate for the Nebraska opening two years ago, but the school hired Bo Pelini instead.

Gill's daughter, Jordan, attends Kansas.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/542

Gill's contract with Buffalo was extended after last season and runs through 2013.

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 07:40 PM

More on Gill.

Reports are starting to surface that Buffalo head coach Turner Gill will interview for the vacancy at Kansas.

Gill, the former Nebraska quarterback and assistant coach, hasn't confirmed it, but this isn't a surprise. His daughter attends Kansas, and a return to the Midwest would be an attraction.

http://www.omaha.com/article/2009120...ED02/912059968

Terribilis 12-05-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6319084)
More on Gill.

Reports are starting to surface that Buffalo head coach Turner Gill will interview for the vacancy at Kansas.

Gill, the former Nebraska quarterback and assistant coach, hasn't confirmed it, but this isn't a surprise. His daughter attends Kansas, and a return to the Midwest would be an attraction.

http://www.omaha.com/article/2009120...ED02/912059968

crap...

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Terribilis (Post 6319089)
crap...

Yeah, why in the hell would we want a 5-7 MAC coach.

kstater 12-05-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6319106)
Yeah, why in the hell would we want a 5-7 MAC coach.


At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6319124)
At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

:banghead:

ArrowheadHawk 12-05-2009 08:06 PM

And now Kusports.com is reporting it.

Buffalo’s Gill reportedly interviewing for KU vacancy
By Dugan Arnett
http://media.lawrence.com/img/croppe...6f48523261b548
Buffalo head coach Turner Gill

According to a report from CBS prior to Saturday's SEC championship game, Buffalo football coach Turner Gill will interview Sunday for the Kansas University head coaching position.

Gill, one of a handful of coaches mentioned as possible replacements for the recently resigned Mark Mangino, is in his fourth season as Buffalo's head coach, having led the program to the 2008 MAC championship and their first bowl game in half a century.

Despite recent comments stating he was comfortable at Buffalo, meanwhile, Gill has multiple ties to both the Big 12 and KU. Two years ago, he interviewed for the Nebraska head coaching job that eventually went to Bo Pelini, while his daughter, Jordan, is a sophomore at KU.

Interestingly, Mark Mangino's daughter, Samantha, was also a sophomore at KU when Mangino was hired as KU's coach in 2001.

A Buffalo sports information director could not be reached for comment.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/d...ng-ku-vacancy/

Buehler445 12-05-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6318218)
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

Mangino moved Quigley to LB. Not sure why, I thought he could do well at RB if he would have held the ball high and tight and quit ****ing fumbling. He may have been too ****ing stupid to learn the offense, but I liked what I saw last year.

I fully expect KU football to blow ass.
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Bearcat 12-05-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6319124)
At 14-18, his conference winning percentage is a monumental upgrade from Mangino.

Well, Buffalo had won 4 games in the previous 4 years in conference, which is a pretty good turnaround considering they had at least 3 wins (in 2007) for the first time since 2001, won at least 5 games (total, from 07-09) three years in a row for the first time since '82-84, and had a winning record (last year) for the first time since '96.

Skip Towne 12-05-2009 08:32 PM

Do the colleges have a Rooney Rule?

Sure-Oz 12-05-2009 08:39 PM

Your new hc

Terribilis 12-05-2009 08:44 PM

so will KU be the only Big 12 team with a black head coach?

Braincase 12-05-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Terribilis (Post 6319236)
so will KU be the only Big 12 team with a black head coach?

Could be. Shouldn't make a difference, though. Get the best coach they can get, and if he happens to be a man of color (Gill, Sumlin), then so be it.

Buehler445 12-05-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 6319298)
Could be. Shouldn't make a difference, though. Get the best coach they can get, and if he happens to be a man of color (Gill, Sumlin), then so be it.

This
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Lzen 12-06-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6318218)
I think it will be a rough season though, for KU. Losing Reesing and Briscoe, that's significant. You still got Quigley.

I think it will be rough is that the new coach will come in, and probably implement his own offensive/defensive scheme and the players having to re-learn the differnet termonology and such.

I just hope the new coach keeps the same or similar style offense. KU's personnel is built around that and I would hate to see a Herm Edwards Chiefs style regression. That's why Houston's coach would be a good hire, IMO. Not sure what Gill runs at Buffalo.

In any case, I'm with Braincase. I just want the best coach (duh).


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