I'm pretty damn happy about this news too.

anyone else think that Shefter is kinda a greasy little weasel?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Man I wish I wasn't on my phone so I could give you rep
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Sure.

We have a defense with no playmakers.

We have an offense with one playmaker, and one guy who could be a playmaker if he cared more and wasn't targeted like a 5th option.

We have a regime with a history of drafting 3-4 lineman in the first round, but who haven't produced a pass rusher of their own in well....ever.

Who was the last 3-4 edge rusher NE drafted that made any impact?

We have a QB with the keys to the franchise who is basically a homeless man's Rich Gannon.

I think that we could build the 1997 Chiefs without Derrick Thomas.

That's probably a 10 win team.

I agree. He flashes his talent. I was listening on the radio this morning and someone mentioned that he has had 4 offensive coordinators in 4 years in college, and then a diff coordinator every year in the pros.

I kinda feel bad for the dude. What a wast of talent.

Are you talking about 10 wins next year or 10 wins is the most this regime will ever win in a season?

man, i just hope this means we can work on improving our techniques on offense.

cassel's footwork is crap,his play-action-pass fake is almost non-existent, the offensive line can't hide a screen worth a crap etc etc. :banghead:

You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.

Before the draft last year, I compared Freeman to Campbell, and it turns out that I think I was right, but for the wrong reasons. Campbell and Freeman are both better than I thought, as it turns out.

Hell I'd take him right now. For "competition" you know cuz it makes us stronger...

I think if Shanny is smart....he'll keep the kid and see what he's got.

nWo 4 4 4 Liiifffeee!!!
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I don't think this team has ran a successful screen since 2006.

I didn't tell you 3 days ago before BRC did, but I did say it from my source at around 1:30 today.

LEts dump tea in the Harbor!

Is he going to be a UFA if there is no CBA? Im not sure.

Maybe a 10 win team in 2011. Maybe a 13 win team in 2012. And then BAHM! the world ends in route to our first superbowl. Sucks being a Chiefs fan.

Vince Wilfork???
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Big deal. Show me on the field. I watched this board welcome the return of an aviator glasses wearing moron, hailing him as a savior. I didn't fall for it when Carl did it, and I won't fall for it on this hire.

Prove it to me, Chiefs. You no longer deserve the faith of this fan.

I love this hire.

But gun said he'd eat their heart and soul and shit

That's a supa mad wicka'd idea man.

Gotta get the language down.
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I'm busy cakn partna

It's now on www.nfl.com. Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

10 is the most we'll ever get with this team. Maybe Pioli gets a second build, but w/ Matt Cassel at the helm and no outside rushers, I don't see us ever doing more than that.

But who's the third man, Schiavone?!

I don't doubt Shanahan will be looking quarterback, I've just heard he's enamored with Bradford.

Hopefully the Chiefs don't make the same mistake they did in 2006 and overlook Dumervil who led the NCAA in sacks. Von Miller will be a good outside linebacker.

So, what you are saying is that one year's draft a is a history of drafting 3-4 linemen in the first round?

Dorsey was not drafted as a 3-4 lineman. The only 3-4 lineman the Chiefs have ever drafted in the first round was Tyson Jackson. I was not a fan of that pick at the time and am not a fan of it now.

You would not call Tamba Hali a pass rusher of their own? He certainly is not DeMarcus Ware, but he is a pass rusher.

Your cynicism never grows old...

I am not even remotely suggesting that the Weis hire wins the AFCW next year, a couple playoff games and a trip to the super bowl. The defense is a huge problem, but suggesting this team is building for a 10 win ceiling because the defense is awful before any FA acquisitions and the draft in the Charlie Weis OC thread is laughable.

Kent Babb's thoughts next on 810 with Jason Anderson

This is a good hire. Weis and Haley will be on the same page and that should give the team some continuity. Weis also brings a certain amount of expertise and credibility to the coaching staff. Nice move.

Kent Babb might as well be Nick Athan. Seriously Babbs takes are awful.

You just can't **** with this decided schematic advantage.

Here you go:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

We're going to win an additional 3-4 games next year because of coaching alone.

[QUOTE='Hamas' Jenkins;6416259]You couldn't put a guy in a worse situation.'QUOTE]

See: Cassel,Matt

We also now have the inside track on Clausen.

Thank you captain Repost

Whats the word on Crennel, insider?

Pioli + Haley + Wies + Crennel + Clausen = CHAMPIONSHIP's

Good thing he has a 2nd round pick.

When did NFL.com become the same exact thing as ESPN?

I'll spell it out for you
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=183

JFC give it a rest, damn.

No, I'm going off of NE's drafting history (since we give Pioli credit when talking about his input on NE's draft, except when they're bad) as well as his history here.

Again, show me one 3-4 OLB that anyone in New England or with this regime has drafted who was a real threat to rush the passer.

This league is about three things: Having a great QB, protecting the QB, and rushing the QB.

We don't have 1, 1 obviates 2 in many cases (notice Cassel's sacks taken stats in NE), and our decision makers have shown no aptitude of getting 3.

Hypothetical question for the experts -

What if Mangini gets canned by the Browns? Do you pursue him or Crennel for DC? I can't imagine anyone giving Mangini another HC job after what happened in Cleveland assuming he isn't retained.

Bad ****ing Ass!

And since when did this regime draft Tamba Hali?

No I thought it was documented that Pioli and the rest of the Kansas City Patriots hate Mangini after he ratted on the mothership.

I will throw the **** up if Mangini is even seriously considered, let alone hired.

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/...e-coordinator/

Charlie Weis Becomes Chiefs Offensive Coordinator

Charlie Weis
Former Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis has agreed to become the new offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.

An official announcement is expected within the next 24-48 hours according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

“He’s a coach that system-wise, I would say we’re as close as you can be,” Chiefs coach Todd Haley said Wednesday before word of Weis’ hiring leaked. “Charlie’s a guy I consider a friend and I’ve talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice.”

Weis is inheriting a quarterback in Matt Cassel who is familiar with his style of offense from his days with the New England Patriots, although he was drafted after Weis left for South Bend.

Perhaps that will help the last offseason’s big free agent acquisition improve in 2010.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Romeo Crennel will also be joining the Chiefs as the defensive coordinator shortly.

Really?

The problem with our offense at the end of the season was not haley's play calling - except for some obvious wtf moments - but the QB's execution of the play calls. How many tds did Cassel leave on the field with agressive down field plays calls?

The opening drive in denver was brilliant, and Haley has proven he can call a game that maximizes Charles abilities, even with sub-par talent almost everywhere.

I wish he'd keep calling plays. And it isn't clear to me that Weiss is an upgrade during the game, and may in fact be less aggressive which will inevitably raise another chorus of whining.

But, organizationally, by reducing Haley's work load and maybe even helping to buffer the players from his caustic side a bit, it could help Haley to get his shit together and focus.

I mean, i don't know, but it's hypothetically possible.

It's nice to see them doing something, i guess, and proof that Haley was being candid when he said he'd likely eventually bring in a OC, but please god tell me we're bringing in a new DC where the need is 100 times greater.

Mark it down......

On January 6th 2010......DaneMcCloud was happy with a move the Chiefs made. :D

[quote=KC kid;6416363]Cassel was in the same system for the first 4 years of his career.

He also had a hell of a lot more to work with this year alone on the OL and skill positions than Campbell did in Washington.

I can't think of a better coach to help Cassel than Charlie Weis.

In defense of Mangini, I do find it rather impressive he was able to take those scrubs to 4 straight wins to end the season.

But I think Holmgren will get rid of him, and I don't want him anywhere near KC.

Depends on how you look at the words "real threat", I suppose.

Tully Banta-Cain had 9.5 sacks this season.


However, given that the Patriots under Belichick generally brought in veteran linebackers rather than drafting them prior to Mayo, it's sort of a non-issue. The team didn't fail at drafting such players in any grand sense, because they didn't make the attempt.

Mangini has been blacklisted from the tree.

Good point, I'd forgotten about that

well, true and i honestly didn't even think about that angle.....

I completely agree that Haley CAN call a damn good game. But the WTF moments, I hope, have to be the direct result of him trying to do too much.

How else can you explain comments like, "I called TO to decide whether to punt or kick a FG." Seriously, Todd? Mother****.

The Chiefs are instantly better right now. And this really isn't meant as glowing praise of Weis.

LMAO

"Hey Scott. It's Eric. You guys find a real D coordinator yet? I should be near the top of the tree."

"Sure Eric. The AIDS Tree."

Click.

Tully Banta-Cain, the 29 year old OLB, almost doubled his career sack total this year and still didn't get to 10.

:facepalm:

Now lets hire a D-cordinator and let Pioli scout and target free agents and hope next year is alot better than last year. I'm tired of losing I want to argue with everyone about how far we'll go in the playoffs dammit.

right, it's probably a net gain in the end.....

"That dude's a Chauncey."

"Billups?"

"Naw, a bitch ass Chauncey."

The exchange that goes through my mind everytime I think of Clancy: A bitch ass Clancy.

If this team doesn't go .500 next year, there's nothing to argue about.

It would be amazing if the Chiefs win 8 games next year.

Flopnuts has been consistent with his .500 gauntlet.

Shawn Crable was a massive failure, that's for sure.

If they win 7, I won't freak. If they win less than that, I'm going to ****ing struggle.

7 wins would be awsome. Thats more then they've won in 2.5 years.

Crennel is our first choice and they are trying to work out the details of a contract. Since he is still owed money from the Browns, working out the specifics is more detailed than usual. He's allowed his agent to field calls for his services, but he's leaning towards the Chiefs. In fact, I would say it's all but done.

I'm gonna have to write you a check next christmas seriously. I value your insight and how accurate it is compared to you know whos.

This.

They had it on Sirius NFL network at 5.30

Insider? Huh?

As I said... depends on how you look at the words. However, Belichick's first draft with the team was in 2001. Here are all the LB's drafted and the round taken, regardless of ILB or OLB projection:

2000: Casey Tisdale: round 7
2001: T.J. Turner: compensatory round 7
2003: Tully Banta-Cain: round 7
2005: Ryan Claridge: Round 5
2006: Jeremy Mincey: Round 6
2007: Justin Rogers: Round 6
2007: Oscar Lua: Round 7
2008: Jerod Mayo: Round 1
2008: Shawn Crable: Round 3
2008: Bo Ruud: Round 6
2009: Tyrone Mckenzie: Round 3


That's every linebacker drafted under Belichick. Only 3 were drafted in the 'first day', and 2 of them (Crable, McKenzie) have been held back by injury. Mayo, an ILB, was DPOY. McKenzie, projected to be an inside LB, got hurt even before getting to his first training camp. Crable was injured as a rookie, never really saw the field, and then got hurt again and ended up on IR. This year, he suffered another season ending injury, even before getting a chance to get into any game situation.

So, sure you can say that the team hasn't really drafted pass rushing OLBs if you ignore or minimize what Banta-Cain did this season, but it's not as if they've been repeatedly trying with top picks and completely failing.

We have hired Jabba the Hutt.

Personally I think Crennel is who they will probably focus in on. Possibly as just a DL and Associate HC instead of DC. He was rumored to join Weis's staff at ND as just a DL coach there. The article i read on that said at this stage of his career he would be content as just a position coach instead of DC. I don't know how the past year away from football could have affected that. DC for him still makes the most sense.

As others have mentioned, Todd Bowles DB/asst. hc Phins. He is being groomed for the future DC when Paul Pasqueloni retires or moves on. I have my doubts that Pioli or haley would hire him with the chance Parcells wants to promote him in the future, it might ruffle feathers w/Parcells. I don't think they would take a chance on that.

As far as Cleveland, Rob Ryan their DC. If a new HC goes to Cleveland he may be available. When he was DC in Oakland, Don Martindale was the LB coach. He is now with Nolan and the Donks. He might be worth an interview.

Al Groh makes sense too. And if Pepper Johnson w/the pats is ready, Pioli would know.