No salary cap doesn't equal unlimited spending in Kansas City. The Chiefs don't have the same revenues from concessions, luxury suites and apparel that other teams have and the Hunts have never been a family that outspends other teams in the league.

I'm certainly not stating that it's impossible but I have a hard time believing that Clark Hunt would be willing to have $18-$25 million wrapped up in two receivers each season.

I agree with this post. Normally, I'm not a fan of signing RBs to long-term contracts. This one appears totally reasonable, however.

Post#18, I was wondering how long it would take to get that response. It was my first thought as well.

Congrats JC!

Someone painted a happy face on me.

I really like this team. Unlike Carl, they actually proactively manage the team instead of letting things become crises.

This is a great point. I'm surprised you made it, but it's a great point nonetheless. o:-)

And I've never used that particular emoticon before. Happy holidays.

I tend to keep my best thoughts to myself so they don't get stolen.

does indeed seem to be the case.....and let me say once for old times sake:

**** you Carl

sums up my thoughts exactly

I agree on the three players, but Halis deal should be next, then Bowe then Flowers.

Simply because that is the order that we have the rights for the specific players.

If we hold player rights for 5 years, this is the final year that we own Halis rights and if we lost him, where would our pass rush be? Remember 2008 when we had 10 sacks?

Judging by New England's track record I wonder how they will regard Flowers. New England sort of let its defensive backs walk.

Not Ty Law...well, until he was like 31.

I think they ****ed up with Asante Samuel, but I don't see Clark Pioli letting Flowers walk like NE did Asante... I think NE felt they could do so and they still had enough talent to sustain a playoff caliber defense without him, this is a different situation.

Don't forget about Lawyer Milloy.

30

Flowers is 24

As I pointed out, we own his rights another 3 years unless a new CBA is agreed upon...Hali only has one more year and Bowe has 2...again, using the current structure.

There is no way Flowers is going anywhere for the next 6 years or more.

Hali is a FA after this season and Bowe has 1 more year on contract.

The Patriots tossed good Cb's to the curb all the time.

Im not talking contract, Im talking rights to a player.

We can place tenders on either player of a 1st and 3rd or franchise either to keep them once their contract expires up until after their 6th year in the league.

That is why DJ is still a Chief and he didnt hit the open market after his rookie deal expired.

Average corners are a dime a dozen to a defense with a good front 7...players like Ty Law and Brandon Flowers are treated differently because they change the way your team plays defense.

Besides Samuel, I dont really remember the letting any good corners walk.

The only way I see Flowers not being a Chief in three years is if we get at least a 1st and 3rd for him and we sign everyone else, which I would view as a mistake because players like Flowers are extremely rare and almost irreplaceable.

If we lose him in the next couple years, it sets this defense back a couple steps.

That is a pretty cheap contract. I was hoping Pioli would overspend like he did with Derrick Johnson.

Shit, both contracts are outstanding for this team. Players are happy with the guaranteed numbers, and we stillhave plenty of wiggle room under the alleged cap for years to come. Pioli knocked it out of the park.

that sloshing sound you hear, it's the pee your brain floats in

Derrick has made strides toward being the player he can be, but just wait till he takes the next step once we get a real DT to play in front of him to keep blockers off him.

Dude is gonna be in full on beast mode.

Same goes for Belcher.

...

Id also like to say that I think its very telling that KnowMo just made a comment about something Chiefs without adding some useless crap about the Broncos.

Now we know the point at which Knowmo knows he's got nothin'.

he must be still crying inside

And this is a good thing...

Flowers basically has 2 more years on his deal after this one. He'll be an RFA after next year.

Lock Hali up now. Lock Bowe up next year and then get Flowers in the last year of his deal.

Might wanna' work on re-signing Brandon Carr, too.

That's a truly great contract for us, and it should cover the remainder of his useful years. Who is the guy who does the contracts for the Chiefs now (I know they separated these two formally after Carl left, but a new guy was hired in this capacity this year, IIRC)?

You are referring to Clark Hunt Himself.

that is one hell of a good deal for the chiefs

Yeah, pretty much what Ive said.
I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see this as the next move actually.

He is restricted, but his contract is up after this year iirc.

You'd hope Pioli would learn from that mistake, because their inability to retain talent in their back seven arguably cost them two SB's (when the Colts came storming back and the Giants).

Besides, Flowers will still be very young when his next contract is up, and like Seymour, he's a special enough defensive player that they'll most likely cave to his demands.

It all rolls up to Scott and Clark.

Hell of a nice job to both of them.

It is not a coincidence that his initials are JC and he signed his extension a few weeks before Christmas.;)

I know he's the CEO, so it could be him, but I figured that was a figurehead role.

Is it Mark Donovan?

Joel Collier assistant GM?

Trip MacCracken

Donovan is the business guy, nothing to do with football operations.

Could be. Whoever it is has done a great job. Ultimately, of course, the owner and GM always sign off on those deals, but someone else usually does a majority of the legwork. The Charles and Johnson extensions were great deals, because we weren't buying at their lowest, but we still retained promising players for a long period of time before their price escalated due to the open market.

Thanks.

Love 25.

Good news.

From what Ive understood, Donovan is handling the seating and tickets and Clark took over for Denny Thum and is being hands on with trying to lock up the young core of this team.

There is a guy from another site I post on that has pmd me info from time to time that all of which has came to fruition...well one was a rumor that completely fits.

1) Clark Hunt is being hands on with trying to lock down the young core of this team for the long haul.

2) Haley felt Josh had cheated in the first meeting by some means of finding out about plays we hadnt run in games. this was part of the reasoning of "there is a lot of shit being talked about you"

3) He told me that DJs deal was gonna happen "in the following days" and had already been negotiated..e told me this a couple days before it was announced (at the time I didnt make much of it TBH)

I will hold more weight to what info he shoots me in the future because these three seem to be true.

I really could care less about this season. I honestly have been bored watching the Broncos this year and have probably only watched 4 full games and the rest of them I have them turned off by halftime.

Maybe next year we won't be decimated by injuries in training camp and I will have a reason to watch.

Tick Tock...Tick Tock Tock.

DAMMIT SCOTT

LMAO Pretty shocking after you had the...

Best offseason EVER!!!!!!

Oh and don't be one of those "I could care less" people. Do you hear what you are saying?

You seemed to care plenty in the pre-season when you declared a lot of false bullshit.

Now that your team sucks, again, you have another excuse.

You lost one key player. Dumervil. That's it.

Maybe next year you'll get some talent on your team, an actual HC and an actual GM who can evaluate talent.

Some real ****ing fan you are. The Chiefs sucked balls for 3 years, but I didn't miss a ****ing snap. You're a ****ing joke of a person.

Now that KnowMo will have to leave, he will just have to only use Awesome Aric from now on.

Of course he doesn't. He's the most inmature fan I've ever come across in my entire life.

He's pulling the too cool attitude now. He spent months hyping the Broncos, making bets that he would never support about how they would be better than the Chiefs, and when it all falls apart, he pulls the "I don't care/here's another excuse card".

I'm baffled by how many on this board like him.

keep ya head up little homer. The rut you guys are gonna be in for the next 2-3 years will teach you alot about being realistic about your teams expectations. By the time you gare through it, it will help you appreciate the wins when they do come back around.

This years failure had little to do with training camp injuries and a whole lot to do with the way Josh dismantled your team step by step.

It's pretty clear that we can't take KnowMo seriously as a Bronco fan. You're a disgrace. Pathetic.

Not to mention that he's full of shit.

Truth.

I don't buy it...

Clady missed all of training camp, Knowshon missed all of training camp, Buckhalter missed all of training camp, Darrell Reid (our best special teams player) hasn't played all year, Ryan Harris got hurt in training camp, so did Chris Kuper, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Tebow.

The first time we started our entire offensive line was the first game we played against you guys. Our secondary has been banged up all year....

This has been a fluke of a season.

The bright side is that Denver only has a season like this once a decade and we will back to our winning ways next year.

Should I be keeping track of all of these?

Back from what?

JFC :rolleyes: I agree with everything The Bad Guy said.

A fluke season? How can it be a fluke season when everyone with a ****ing brain and a pulse predicted the Broncos would be roughly 5-11.

It's a predictable season.

A fluke is watching Brandon Lloyd turn in a top 5 receiver season or Kyle Orton leading the NFL in passing yards. That's a fluke if you want to label that.

But the Broncos record? Hardly a fluke.

How about finding a new head coach, THEN tell us how good your team will look.

And sorry to disappoint, but your hero Mc****overafranchise just skull ****ed you guys into the ground for at least the next two upcoming seasons. Enjoy the bottom of the AFC West.

He seems to think that before this season. They were having winning ways.

Not a bad idea.

Sadly, the Broncos record IS a fluke. They should have less wins LMAO

You have the 2nd longest playoff drought in the division. You have lost 17 of your last 22.

Winning ways?

If they ever do happen, you don't ****ing deserve to watch one snap you cherrypicking dickbag. You don't get to proclaim you survived the Titanic when you had a lifeboat the whole time.

:clap: rep.

He has to be bi-polar. I mean, we were all homers at one point in time, but no one is ever this bad. Especially when he's old enough to be considered an adult.

You know why your defense couldn't stay healthy? Because you had a sack of garbage bunch of old washups.

That's why.

Brian Dawkins will go into the Hall as a Bronco! [/Knowmo]

McDaniels didn't set us back. It is a fact that the Jay Cutler trade and Brandon Marshall trade was the right decision. We have 4 WR's with more TD's than Marshall and Kyle Orton has outplayed Cutler ever since the trade went down. And oh yeah... We also managed to get Tim Tebow.

me neither

where is that "son I am disapoint" pic when you need it?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Holy Shit.

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

Hey, if you feel like you are having success.

Then I wish you a hundred more years of prosperity.

Neither Orton or Tebow will be under center for your next playoff game.

It seems your point is your football takes are just as reeruned as your political ones.

Ok, this dude's not actually a Bronco fan. The jig is up.

Nobody here can honestly say that Denver won both the Cutler and Marshall trades.

We lost the Hillis and Scheffler trades but we struck gold with the big trades, heck we still have a second round pick coming to us from the Marshall trade.

Jesus tapdancing Christ on a popsicle stick.

http://www.motivationpics.com/images...at_failing.jpg

Nobody cares about the trades. You are talking about winning and losing trades.

We are talking about winning and losing games. LMAO

What "gold"? Tebow? Please tell me you mean Tebow.....