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Marcellus 12-26-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8237625)
Well if he doesnt like it, he can GTFO...

He has already stated that he has another year left on his contract and if they want him back as DC rather than HC he would do it.

FloridaMan88 12-26-2011 06:09 PM

If Chudzinski is HC, there is a reasonable chance Romeo would return as defensive coordinator.

Chudzinski was hired by Romeo in Cleveland so they have a history working together.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-26-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8237569)
You know you have a shit franchise when you are debating Orton, Cassel, Crennel, Muir, Fisher and the past with Marty...


God this is one of the worst ran franchises in the NFL...

Who do you suggest the Chiefs hire and what QB do you suppose they take in thier current draft spot?

BoneKrusher 12-26-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8237621)
Disagree. Interim means temporary. If they had promoted him to FT head coach and then stripped him then it would be a demotion. If he's back to DC next year he really has nothing to be angry about except for maybe some disappointment he didn't get the HC job.


well if i were Romeo and Pioli didn't wanna give me the HC gig and asked me to go back to being the DC i'd tell him to kiss my ass.

Phobia 12-26-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8237678)
well if i were Romeo and Pioli didn't wanna give me the HC gig and asked me to go back to being the DC i'd tell him to kiss my ass.

People don't tell one another to kiss their ass when there are seven figures sitting on the table.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-26-2011 06:31 PM

I'd say there is a 90 percent chance the next head coach has previous head coaching experience. Maybe even higher.

BoneKrusher 12-26-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8237682)
People don't tell one another to kiss their ass when there are seven figures sitting on the table.

well i'm sure Romeo could land a DC job anytime he wants with several other NFL teams.

Marcellus 12-26-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8237678)
well if i were Romeo and Pioli didn't wanna give me the HC gig and asked me to go back to being the DC i'd tell him to kiss my ass.

You aren't nor will you ever be in a position to understand the business.

That's like saying Romeo only excepted the interim HC job under the condition he gets the HC job.

Dude is 64, is being paid well as DC, has one year left under his contract and knows its a business.

If he loses on Sunday, what leg does he have to stand on to basically demand the job or walk?

As good as the Chiefs played against GB they were almost equally as bad against a Raider team who tried like hell to give us the game.

BoneKrusher 12-26-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8237701)
You aren't nor will you ever be in a position to understand the business.

That's like saying Romeo only excepted the interim HC job under the condition he gets the HC job.

Dude is 64, is being paid well as DC, has one year left under his contract and knows its a business.

If he loses on Sunday, what leg does he have to stand on to basically demand the job or walk?

As good as the Chiefs played against GB they were almost equally as bad against a Raider team who tried like hell to give us the game.



all i'm saying is if Crennel doesn't get the HC gig in KC he will take his ability to coach defense elsewhere.

he'll be in high demand as a DC.

Marcellus 12-26-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8237712)
all i'm saying is if Crennel doesn't get the HC gig in KC he will take his ability to coach defense elsewhere.

he'll be in high demand as a DC.

He is under contract for another year, the only way he can go anywhere else is if he is fired and paid, and that would be the decision of the new HC, or if he is given a chance as a HC somewhere.

Simply put it's not really up to him unless he is hired as HC somewhere or he retires.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-26-2011 06:49 PM

How common is it for an interm coach to return as coordinator?

BoneKrusher 12-26-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8237716)
He is under contract for another year,

this pretty much assures us who the Chiefs HC will be for 2012 then doesn't it?

especially if the Chiefs should beat Denver this week.

Marcellus 12-26-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8237719)
How common is it for an interm coach to return as coordinator?

With 3 games left? Your guess is as good as mine.

I think it has more to do with who becomes HC and if they get along.

Marcellus 12-26-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8237727)
this pretty much assures us who the Chiefs HC will be for 2012 then doesn't it?

especially if the Chiefs should beat Denver this week.

If we pummel Denver, maybe.

It all depends IMO what Clark has told Pioli is critical and also, can they get who they WANT if its not Crennel.

Hell Crennel could get the job by default if they guy they really want, say its Fisher, turns them down.

BoneKrusher 12-26-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8237731)
If we pummel Denver, maybe.

It all depends IMO what Clark has told Pioli is critical and also, can they get who they WANT if its not Crennel.

Hell Crennel could get the job by default if they guy they really want, say its Fisher, turns them down.

yep.
we agree.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-26-2011 07:21 PM

Does anyone have any real news on the coaching search?

Pasta Little Brioni 12-26-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8237760)
Does anyone have any real news on the coaching search?

Not much other than seeing Fisher, Pioli, and Hunt at 5 guys. Fisher paid.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-26-2011 09:27 PM

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NFLN's Jason La Canfora on #Rams forthcoming coaching search: "I expect the Rams to take a serious run at Jeff Fisher." http://is.gd/8ZLTPM


Rams could make run at Fisher By NFL.com Staff |
Published: December 26th, 2011 | Tags: Jeff Fisher, Billy Devaney, Jason La Canfora, NFL Total Access, St. Louis Rams, Steve Spagnuolo


The names of Titans coach Jeff Fisher and former Steelers coach Bill Cowher are the first to come up on the hot list of candidates to replace coaches on the hot seat.

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A 2-13 season has Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo firmly in the latter category, and the rumblings suggest changes will be made in St. Louis. NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora has reported any coaching move will take place during the offseason, and told ”NFL Total Access” Monday those changes could extend up the ladder to GM Billy Devaney.

As for the Rams’ wish list?

“I expect the Rams to take a serious run at Jeff Fisher,” La Canfora reported.

Fisher is a popular name, and for good reason. His name should be near the top of the list for nearly every opening. The job in St. Louis — if it opens, as expected — could be attractive given QB Sam Bradford is part of the equation.

ChiefsCountry 12-26-2011 09:34 PM

The Rams could be a very very very attractive job around 3:15 or so on January 1.

dirk digler 12-26-2011 09:46 PM

Hopefully the Rams offer him a bunch of money and he takes the job.

durtyrute 12-26-2011 11:41 PM

This is just plain dumb, Romeo will be able to get more out of this team than Fishy Fish ever will.

No Fish in '12

Hammock Parties 12-26-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8238169)
This is just plain dumb, Romeo will be able to get more out of this team than Fishy Fish ever will.

There is a mountain of evidence for this.

Romeo Crennel has proven to be a completely awesome head coach.

durtyrute 12-26-2011 11:46 PM

He's coached 2 games, 1-1. Are you suggesting that if Fishy Fish came in right after the Green Bay game that he would've willed us to a victory?

Hammock Parties 12-26-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8238179)
He's coached 2 games, 1-1.

Strange, I seem to remember he coached some games in Cleveland.

durtyrute 12-26-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8238181)
Strange, I seem to remember he coached some games in Cleveland.

That doesn't have shit to do with this team. A coach shouldn't be replaced after two games.

Hammock Parties 12-26-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8238185)
That doesn't have shit to do with this team. A coach shouldn't be replaced after two games.

Interim head coaches get replaced all the time.

Simply Red 12-27-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8237489)
I can't wait for Pioli to **** this one up. I really need a reason to quit spending so much time following sports.

Do it Pioli, do it.

Why do you hate this Country and it's people?

BigChiefFan 12-27-2011 12:09 AM

Fisher is an average coach. We don't need an ego-maniac bringing his shit here.

This dude drafted Vince Young and preferred Kerry Collins. He's a trainwreck.

Hammock Parties 12-27-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8238207)

This dude drafted Vince Young

No, his owner drafted Vince Young.

Jeff Fisher wanted no part of him.

BossChief 12-27-2011 12:17 AM

He wanted nothing to do with drafting Vince Young. That was the owner.

Simply Red 12-27-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8238220)
He wanted nothing to do with drafting Vince Young. That was the owner.

why do you hate blacks?

BigChiefFan 12-27-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8238217)
No, his owner drafted Vince Young.

Jeff Fisher wanted no part of him.

It was said tongue-in-cheek, to show that the guy doesn't work with well with others. He's an ego-maniac, who'd rather make a point, than win games. He's a disaster for the next franchise that hires him. I want no part of that trainwreck.

Abba-Dabba 12-27-2011 12:30 AM

I'm liking Winston Moss at this point. He is experienced with a 3-4. There are those that think he should be a DC before a HC, and it would probably be good for him to get a year under his belt in that position. But if that is the case, it would be already too late to land him.

And a hell no to Fisher. Mediocrity at it's finest.

Epic Fail 007 12-27-2011 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8236135)
Didn't these sources not too long ago say Clark wasn't gonna pay over 3 million for a coach?

Now he is willing to pay whatever it takes?

No Nick wright said that Clark was not going over 3 and him alone

Simply Red 12-27-2011 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8238234)
No Nick wright said that Clark wasn`t going over 3 and him alone

how 'bout this? ...we'll all start deferring all of our questions your way prior to doing any real reseach. Cool? ... thanks bub

Mr. Plow 12-27-2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8238237)
how 'bout this? ...we'll all start deferring all of our questions your way prior to doing any real reseach. Cool? ... thanks bub

Why do you hate babies, apple pie, and baseball? Why do you hate America?

Simply Red 12-27-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8238217)
No, his owner drafted Vince Young.

Jeff Fisher wanted no part of him.

GUYS GUYS, please! Listen guys, moving forward PM Clay for any unanswered Football related questions, he'll field them all and never be wrong!!

TEX 12-27-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8238207)
Fisher is an average coach. We don't need an ego-maniac bringing his shit here.

This dude drafted Vince Young and preferred Kerry Collins. He's a trainwreck.

You could not be more WRONG. Fisher wanted NO PART of V.Y. When Bud Adams forced the pick on him, because he was "Houston's son" and Bud so desperately wanted to get back at the city of Houston and the Texans, it marked the beginning of the end for the Fisher / Adams relationship. IMO, the Chiefs should pursue Fisher. He is a good HC.

Boon 12-27-2011 02:01 AM

As long as his last name isn't Ryan, I don't give a shit.

bevischief 12-27-2011 07:24 AM

At this point as long as Cassel is no longer part of the team I don't care.

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8238372)
At this point as long as Cassel is no longer part of the team I don't care.

i agree.
send Failko packing and i'm good.

Bane 12-27-2011 07:31 AM

Fisher and Pioli...Hmmmm.Damn sure would require some serious house cleaning after that shit blows up!

PRIEST 12-27-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238377)
Fisher and Pioli...Hmmmm.Damn sure would require some serious house cleaning after that shit blows up!

This
My opinion Fisher is not the coach for KC .

Bane 12-27-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PRIEST (Post 8238380)
This
My opinion Fisher is not the coach for KC .

Fisher seems to me to be the Matt Cassel of head coaching.Probably a great guy and all but absolutely average at best at everything he does on the field.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8238207)
Fisher is an average coach. We don't need an ego-maniac bringing his shit here.

This dude drafted Vince Young and preferred Kerry Collins. He's a trainwreck.

:rolleyes: You guys should at least bring facts to the table if you want to bash Fisher.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238384)
Fisher seems to me to be the Matt Cassel of head coaching.Probably a great guy and all but absolutely average at best at everything he does on the field.

I disagree completely. I think his teams did fine based off the talent level they had. I never looked at any of the rosters they had and said wow that team should win a Super Bowl. He knew his team needed a QB and his damn owner saddled him with Vince Young.

Bane 12-27-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238390)
I disagree completely. I think his teams did fine based off the talent level they had. He knew his team needed a QB and his damn owner saddled him with Vince Young.

But overall in his career he has been average at best in my opinion.

petegz28 12-27-2011 07:54 AM

No, they don't

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238391)
But overall in his career he has been average at best in my opinion.

That's the life of any NFL coach without a true elite QB.

PRIEST 12-27-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238384)
Fisher seems to me to be the Matt Cassel of head coaching.Probably a great guy and all but absolutely average at best at everything he does on the field.

Yes my thoughts exactly

Bane 12-27-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238394)
That's the life of any NFL coach without a true elite QB.

So we should go out and get our own HC who in turn should draft his own QB and go from there.I'm just sick to ****ing death of KC dumpster diving for a 2-3 year "fix" when we have the perfect opportunity to do it right.

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 07:59 AM

Jeff Fisher:



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Jeff Fisher is entering his 16th full season as Head Coach of the Tennessee Titans and his 11th as Executive Vice President. Fisher holds the franchise record for wins by a head coach with 141 victories and is the NFL leader in tenure with one team among active coaches. Entering this season, he ranks 20th on the NFL’s career head coaching wins list and third among active coaches (Belichick, 163; Shanahan, 154).
Over the last 11 seasons (1999-2009), Fisher has guided the franchise to six playoff appearances – only three teams (Indianapolis, Philadelphia and New England) have more appearances during that time. During his tenure, his accomplishments include six playoff appearances (1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2008), three Division titles (2000, 2002, 2008), two AFC Championship Games (1999, 2002) and one Super Bowl berth (XXXIV). With 91 victories during the 2000’s, Fisher directed the franchise to the most successful decade in franchise history (1990’s – 88 wins).

Recent Seasons
Last season, Fisher led the Titans back from a stunning 0-6 start to win eight of the last 10 games to finish the season with an 8-8 mark. It was the first team in NFL history to win more than six games in a season after starting 0-6. The season included a quarterback change to Vince Young at the bye and featured the running prowess of Chris Johnson. Johnson became only the sixth running back in NFL history to reach 2,000 rushing yards and broke Marshall Faulk’s scrimmage-yard record.

The 2008 campaign was one of the most successful regular seasons in franchise history – capturing the AFC South title, matching a franchise best and league high 13 wins, smashing the franchise record for wins to start a season with 10 and eight players earning Pro Bowl invitations. The team was driven by a dynamic run game, an efficient passing game and one of the league’s best defenses.

In 2007, Fisher helped a young team take another step in the maturation process and the final rebuilding phase as this new group of Titans qualified for the playoffs for the first time since 2003. In guiding the team to a 10-6 record through the toughest division in the NFL, Fisher saw the franchise through a difficult re-tooling period that saw the team build from 4-12 in 2005, to 8-8 in 2006 and a playoff berth in 2007. The team followed the path of previously successful Jeff Fisher teams, ranking fifth in the NFL in rushing offense, fifth in the NFL in yards allowed on defense and recording a 5-3 mark on the road.

Fisher Philosophies
Hallmarks of a Fisher-led team include a stout rushing defense, the ability to possess the ball with a strong running game and poise in the midst of adversity. His ability to lead and shape a team is achieved through a combination of toughness and insight as a former NFL player. In 11 of the last 15 seasons, the Titans defense ranked in the top 10 against the run and ranks fourth in rushing defense over that period (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, San Diego). In 2003, the Titans finished first in the NFL in rushing defense for only the second time in franchise history (1993).

Fisher believes in the philosophy that a strong running game helps control the clock and keeps your defense fresh. In 12 of the last 14 seasons, the Titans have finished in the top half of the NFL in rushing offense including seven Top 10 finishes. Additionally, in 12 of the last 15 seasons, the Titans have finished with an average time of possession number of more than 31 minutes for the season.

Early Seasons Under Fisher
After rising to head coaching duties during the 1994 season, Fisher took over a team that was gutted by the emergence of the salary cap and eventually molded them into a consistent winner, overcoming any number of obstacles that were involved with moving the team from Houston to Nashville. The circumstances that surrounded the team between 1995 and 1998 helped bond the team and form an identity of strength and the ability to overcome. Fisher’s teams are mentally strong, flourishing on the road where many teams will wilt. Since 1995, the Titans/Oilers have amassed the third-best road record in the NFL with a 64-56 mark during that time.

In 1997 (8-8) and 1998 (8-8), Fisher guided a team that was in a state of transition and laid the groundwork for the success that was to come. As the team arrived in Tennessee, two young stars began to take control as third-year quarterback Steve McNair took over a starting role and second-year running back Eddie George became a workhorse.

Building Blocks in Place
After years of fluidity and change, a fresh start and stability finally arrived in 1999 with a new team name and the opening of the new stadium; and in this new environment, the new Titans would flourish with the foundation that had been laid. Fisher, the Titans and Middle Tennesseans will fondly remember the accomplishments of the 1999 season, which brought the team its first AFC Championship and an appearance in Super Bowl XXXIV. Fisher and the Titans defeated AFC Central champion Jacksonville three times in 1999, handing the Jaguars their only losses. As a Wild Card team, the Titans had the most difficult route to the Super Bowl. Fisher earned his first postseason victory by defeating Buffalo 22-16, and erased a 16-0 deficit against the Rams in one of the biggest displays of heart in any second half in Super Bowl history. The Titans became only the sixth Wild Card team to earn a trip to the Super Bowl since the NFL added the Wild Card playoff team in 1978. Fisher guided the Titans to a streak of 13 consecutive wins against AFC Central Division opponents dating back to 1998. It marked the longest streak in the history of the Central Division and the third longest in the NFL since the 1970 merger.

Building on the success the Titans had during the 1999 season would be tough to accomplish, but Fisher followed the team’s first AFC championship in 1999 with an AFC Central crown and the league’s best record in 2000. It was the first time in franchise history that the Titans/Oilers owned the NFL’s best record (13-3) and only the third time the club won the AFC Central.
In 2000, Fisher became the fifth coach in NFL history to lead his team to consecutive 13-win seasons, joining Mike Ditka (Chicago Bears, 1985-86), George Seifert (San Francisco, 1989-90), Marv Levy (Buffalo Bills, 1990-91) and Mike Holmgren (Green Bay Packers, 1996-97). The defense reached a new level of success in 2000, earning the number one ranking in the NFL for yards allowed and surrendering the third lowest point total in the league since 1977.

One of his best coaching jobs came in 2002. The Titans were poised to rebound from a disappointing 2001 season which was plagued by injury. Tennessee got off to a 1-4 start and people on the outside began to doubt, but Fisher kept the team on an even keel and rallied the players to win 11 of the next 12 games, capture the AFC South title and earn a place in the AFC Championship Game. Fisher recognized that it would take time for the team to come together as nine new starters became familiar with the "Titans Way" of football. The Titans thrived in 2002 against the best teams, posting an NFL-best (tied with Oakland) 6-2 mark against teams with a winning record during the regular season. For his accomplishments, he was named NFL Coach of the Year by Football Digest and AFC Coach of the Year by the 101 Awards in Kansas City.

In 2003, Tennessee reached the Divisional round of the playoffs for the fourth time in five years after earning a Wild Card berth with their 12-4 mark. Tennessee continued a tradition of great play at home, posting a 7-1 record at LP Field. While the defense ranked first against the run, the offense scored the second most points in franchise history (435) and became just the third franchise since 1970 to score 30 or more points in six consecutive games. On the individual side, quarterback Steve McNair earned NFL co-MVP honors, becoming only the second player in franchise history to win the honor (Earl Campbell).

During the 2004 season, the Titans struggled to overcome an array of injuries that by the end of the season accounted for 135 games missed by starters, including season-ending injuries to 10 starters, and resulted in a 5-11 record.

Also in 2004, Fisher became the fourth youngest coach (46) to win 90 regular season games since 1960. Only John Madden (41), Don Shula (41), and Bill Cowher (44) were faster to 90 wins.

Building the Next Generation
The 2005 season also was a year of youth, as the Titans fielded the youngest team in the league and youngest NFL team in over a decade. Escaping from salary cap difficulties in a single season, the team was forced to jettison productive players who provided veteran leadership. This combination of youth and inexperience was the primary reason for the team’s 4-12 record.

In 2005, with a win over the Houston Texans (10/9/05), he became just the 17th coach to reach the 100-win mark with one team.

In 2006, Fisher showed his experienced leadership skills in guiding a team that started 0-5 and was led by a rookie quarterback to an 8-8 record by winning eight of the last 11 contests, including a six-game win streak through November and December to finish one game short of the playoffs. Quarterback Vince Young earned Rookie of the Year honors and the offense posted the sixth highest rushing total in franchise history - the second highest in the Fisher coaching era (1997). Despite having the NFL’s second youngest team on opening day, it was a team that learned to win close games, registering a 7-4 record in games decided by seven points or fewer (second most wins in that category in the NFL) and six come-from-behind victories.

During the 2006 season, Fisher became the first coach in franchise history to lead the team in 200 contests, reaching the milestone in a game against Baltimore (11/12/06). He became only the 12th coach in NFL history to coach 200 games with one team, joining George Halas, Tom Landry, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Curly Lambeau, Bud Grant, Steve Owen, Bill Cowher, Joe Gibbs, Hank Stram and Marv Levy (Mike Shanahan joined the list in December of 2006 to make 13 coaches).

Fisher Background
Fisher originally joined the Oilers’ coaching staff on Feb. 9, 1994, after spending two seasons as the defensive backs coach for the San Francisco 49ers. Fisher was a perfect fit for the Oilers, who were looking for a young, aggressive coach with experience in the "46" defense. Fisher had worked with the "46" for many years with former Oilers Defensive Coordinator Buddy Ryan. Fisher took over a defense that achieved dominant status in 1993, but had lost several key components to free agency. He was elevated to head coach on Nov. 14, 1994, replacing Jack Pardee, for the final six games of the season.

Fisher officially began his coaching career as an assistant for Ryan and the Philadelphia Eagles in 1986, tutoring the defensive backs for three seasons before becoming the NFL’s youngest defensive coordinator in 1988. One year later, under Fisher’s tutelage, the Eagles’ defense led the NFL in interceptions (30) and quarterback sacks (62). In 1990, Philadelphia’s defense paced the league in rushing defense and ranked second in quarterback sacks.

In 1991, Fisher headed west to be reunited with his college coach John Robinson, serving as the Los Angeles Rams’ defensive coordinator before joining the 49ers one year later.

A former defensive back at the University of Southern California, Fisher played for Robinson in a star-studded defensive backfield that included future NFL stars Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith and Joey Browner. Former Titans offensive lineman Bruce Matthews also was one of Fisher’s USC teammates. Fisher’s career college statistics included five interceptions and 108 tackles. The versatile Fisher also served as the Trojans’ backup kicker and earned Pac-10 All-Academic honors in 1980.

Originally a seventh-round draft selection of the Chicago Bears in 1981, Fisher appeared in 49 games as a defensive back and return specialist in five NFL seasons. He earned a Super Bowl ring after Chicago’s 1985 Super Bowl season, despite spending the year on injured reserve with an ankle injury that prematurely ended his playing career. During that season, Fisher began his post-playing career by assisting Ryan as an "unofficial" coach while the Bears ultimately defeated the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XX. He left Chicago in 1985 holding a number of team records including: number of punt return yards for a season with 509 yards in 1981, number of punt returns in a season with 58 in 1984, and number of punt returns in one game with eight on Dec. 16, 1984, at Detroit. He also recorded the longest punt return by a Bear in 39 years with an 88-yard return for a touchdown on Sept. 20, 1981, against Tampa Bay.

A native of Southern California, Fisher was a high school All-America wide receiver for the Toreadors of Taft High School in Woodland Hills, Calif. Fisher is an avid fisherman and golfer. He also does considerable work off the field with little accolade. He generously donates time and money to a number of different charities, including hosting a celebrity softball game that raises money for local charities, a coach’s clinic for youth/high school coaches in the Mid-South and serves as spokesman for the Country Music Kid’s Marathon as well as the Jason Foundation.

He also gives back to the NFL, serving on the NFL Competition Committee since 2000 and as a co-chairman of the committee since 2001. The committee is instrumental in guiding the league through rule changes and ways to improve the game.

Fisher completed his first marathon when he ran in the Country Music Marathon in 2002. In 2001, Fisher was named the winner of the Horrigan Award, given by the Pro Football Writers of America to the NFL representative that is the most cooperative with the media. Additionally, Fisher was named the 2000 Tennessean of the Year by Nashville’s Tennessean and 1999 Sports Person of the year by the Nashville Sports Council.

Fisher (born 2/25/58) has three children: sons Brandon (age 23) and Trent (age 18), and daughter Tara (age 21).

this was before he was fired but still thought it was worth posting.

Bane 12-27-2011 08:04 AM

Like I said,he's probably a great guy,solid fundamentals etc....But meh.

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238406)
Like I said,he's probably a great guy,solid fundamentals etc....But meh.

seems a lot like Marty to me.
for the fans that liked Marty this is probably a good hire, i was more of a DV fan myself.

i like high powered Offense.

Bane 12-27-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8238411)
seems a lot like Marty to me.
for the fans that liked Marty this is probably a good hire, i was more of a DV fan myself.

i like high powered Offense.

I was a Marty fan and love the play D and run the ball game plan but,that was back when you could still tackle as a defender.As much as I love smash mouth football we need a guy to come in with a passing attack and light it up.We need a QB and a coach that knows how to light it up IMO.

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238415)
I was a Marty fan and love the play D and run the ball game plan but,that was back when you could still tackle as a defender.As much as I love smash mouth football we need a guy to come in with a passing attack and light it up.We need a QB and a coach that knows how to light it up IMO.

yeah, i want the Chiefs to have the Coaching staff and QB that can be aggressive on offense from the opening kickoff till the clock shows zeros and have a defense that keeps the opposing QB on the turf.

Bane 12-27-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8238426)
yeah, i want the Chiefs to have the Coaching staff and QB that can be aggressive on offense from the opening kickoff till the clock shows zeros and have a defense that keeps the opposing QB on the turf.

I can agree with that and I don't really think Fisher sucks or anything,
I just would rather go a different route with our next HC.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 08:37 AM

I'll "ring the clock" of the next moran to push for Fisher...

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8238452)
I'll "ring the clock" of the next moran to push for Fisher...

What coach do you suggest the Chiefs go after? Let me guess... Heeeeeerp some aggresive young up and comer who has an electric offense that makes the Greatest Show on Turf look like Pop Warner and puts out an aggresive defense that hits the QB before he even completes his drop Deeeeeeeerp.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238459)
What coach do you suggest the Chiefs go after? Let me guess... Heeeeeerp some aggresive young up and comer who has an electric offense that makes the Greatest Show on Turf look like Pop Warner and puts out an aggresive defense that hits the QB before he even completes his drop Deeeeeeeerp.

I have yet to perceive a need to change the HC position. When I do, surely you won't expect me to be quiet. Just ask The GreaseMan...

BoneKrusher 12-27-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238448)
I can agree with that and I don't really think Fisher sucks or anything,
I just would rather go a different route with our next HC.

i dont think Fisher sucks either.
i think its time for the Chiefs to try their luck at a Franchise QB and a Really Good OC.

Simply Red 12-27-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8238461)
I have yet to perceive a need to change the HC position. When I do, surely you won't expect me to be quiet. Just ask The GreaseMan...

wtf is the GreaseMan?

Gonzo 12-27-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8238508)
wtf is the GreaseMan?

He's the dude that stands in the pit at your local Jiffy Lube. TheGreaseMan knows everything about obscure posters, apparently.

(Probably a Kotter mult)
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chiefzilla1501 12-27-2011 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238459)
What coach do you suggest the Chiefs go after? Let me guess... Heeeeeerp some aggresive young up and comer who has an electric offense that makes the Greatest Show on Turf look like Pop Warner and puts out an aggresive defense that hits the QB before he even completes his drop Deeeeeeeerp.

Again, I think we're making a huge mistake of assuming the best head coaches are the ones who have a long track record of coordinating great offenses or defenses.

Who were some of the greatest recent hires? Mike Tomlin (extremely inexperienced... Limited coaching track record), mike McCarthy (experienced... But his claim to fame was... Coordinating Aaron brooks' offense under haslett?), John harbaugh (a career special teams coach for crying out loud), and Sean Payton (a guy who coordinated an offense so bad tassel stripped the offense away from him).

The problem organizations face is looking within their trees (Raheem Morris, Jim Caldwell, etc...) or hiring the known commodity (spagnuolo, shurmur, etc...) If the chiefs do a fair interviewing process, they should find someone they like. but they won't. So I'm wasting calories on this soapbox.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-27-2011 09:26 AM

You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 09:26 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greaseman

http://www.greaseman.org/main_bio.html

"He developed a relationship with Redskin Dexter Manley, who joined him on-air for regular sports updates until he was sent to XXXX for bull."

Bane 12-27-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238533)
You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.

Touche.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 09:34 AM

Perhaps the playoffs should just be a QB skills competition, since no other position matters except QB...

Bane 12-27-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238533)
You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.

I think that's what pisses me off more than anything.The fact that after so many years and supposedly "cleaning house" for Pioli,we still can't develop or even draft a goddamn QB that we're able to build around is an absolute joke.I'm not necessarily including Stanzi in there because he hasn't been able to see the field yet and I'm not real sure what the kid brings to the table.

chiefzilla1501 12-27-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8238533)
You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.

Undoubtedly. But that does a tremendous disservice to the kind of teams they built. They are also tremendous coaches. A guy like norv could never do close to the things those guys did.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8238563)
I think that's what pisses me off more than anything.The fact that after so many years and supposedly "cleaning house" for Pioli,we still can't develop or even draft a goddamn QB that we're able to build around is an absolute joke.I'm not necessarily including Stanzi in there because he hasn't been able to see the field yet and I'm not real sure what the kid brings to the table.


Option 1

Hire Pioli, the PATS RULE BABY, go to 3-4, waste 3rd overall pick on Tyson Jackson, trade second for Cassel

or

Option 2

Realize Pioli is precisely who Bill B wants us (or one of the other 30 teams) to hire because he sucks and has done nothing but put his beak up Bill B's butt... don't waste the 3rd overall on a needless switch to 3-4, don't trade value for a Pats backup QB who was a backup in college, don't whiff on Kansas State QB Josh Freeman, and don't let Jason Babin walk for nothing...

okcchief 12-27-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8238372)
At this point as long as Cassel is no longer part of the team I don't care.

This.

htismaqe 12-27-2011 11:17 AM

Get rid of Cassel and then ask me if I care.

Okie_Apparition 12-27-2011 11:41 AM

The Chiefs are Jeff Fisher

FD 12-27-2011 12:06 PM

A year old article from a Houston writer, worth a read.

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He is as average a coach as the Texans' Gary Kubiak has been. Fisher might be the best average coach in NFL history. He is certainly the least accomplished, longest-tenured coach the league has seen.

His greatest accomplishment is that he has yet to be fired. Granted, that is a notable feat considering his boss fired six coaches in the previous stretch matching Fisher's tenure.

Those coaches had 10 winning years and 10 playoff seasons compared to Fisher's six winning campaigns and six postseason appearances. But let Fisher's media cronies tell you, and you'd think Fisher is a great coach. (A nice guy who hangs around the league long enough is sure to build a following.)

Fisher (141-115) is 15th in league history in games coached. Only two coaches ahead of him on that list have worse winning percentages: Dan Reeves and Weeb Ewbank.

Ewbank led two teams to three championships, including victories in the Greatest Game Ever Played and arguably the most important Super Bowl of all-time, the Jets' upset of the Colts in 1969. He also posted an .800 winning percentage in the playoffs. Advantage Ewbank.

Reeves coached three teams, taking two to four Super Bowls. He won seven division titles, and had nine 10-win seasons and a .550 playoff winning percentage. Advantage Reeves.

First clue: zero titles
Fisher has zero championships, one Super Bowl appearance, just four division titles and a sub-.500 playoff winning percentage. Both times Fisher had a team with the best record in the AFC and home-field advantage throughout the postseason, his squad was upset in its first playoff game.

If, as it used to be, championship contention was necessary to make money in the NFL, Bud Adams would have run Fisher off years ago.

Yet Houston fans and some media desire to hire Fisher? Great coach? Please. (Need I mention Fisher's relatively branchless coaching tree?)

It doesn't make sense
In NFL history, 57 men have coached at least 150 games. Fisher is one of only three to coach all of his games with one team and not win a championship. Coincidentally, each of the other two has a .622 winning percentage, compared to Fisher's .551.

Bud Grant, who coached 259 games (to Fisher's 256 at this point), posted 11 winning seasons, 11 division championships and made four Super Bowl appearances with the Vikings.

Andy Reid has six division titles in 11 seasons (and his team leads the NFC East), with a Super Bowl appearance, five NFC title games and just two losing seasons. Until last year, his Eagles, who host the Texans next Thursday, had not lost an opening playoff game, winning seven straight.

In a way, none of this matters as Fisher, one of the highest-paid coaches in the league, would have to throw away millions to leave the Titans before his contract expires after next year. And it is quite unlikely Adams would give him permission to immediately return to where his career started and take over the Texans next year.

Only a fool - let's go with a working premise that Texans owner Bob McNair is no fool - would fire Kubiak and give up draft picks to hire Fisher. It is also safe to assume McNair isn't afflicted with coach envy. If so, he would have fired Kubiak long ago.

There are five active coaches in the NFL who have won Super Bowls. Fisher isn't one of them. There are eight other Super Bowl-winning coaches who have left the NFL in the past five seasons.

Explain to me again why McNair would want to hire a non-title-winning coach with a 16-plus-year record of being slightly above average?

Average football coaches are a dime a dozen, well actually about $5 million a year each, but which is chump change to an NFL owner.
http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/a...ns-1718143.php

chiefzilla1501 12-27-2011 12:16 PM

By the way. While everyone's looking for ex coaches and coordinators, guess what Payton and McCarthy have in common? Both have tons of experience as qbs coaches. To me, that's a pretty good place to look. Obviously, that's not zorn. But there has to be someone else out there.

Dexter Manley 12-27-2011 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8238812)
The Chiefs are Jeff Fisher


Oklahoma State is me...

FloridaMan88 12-27-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8238812)
The Chiefs are Jeff Fisher

Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.

DJJasonp 12-27-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8239303)
Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.

Not so sure I call McNair a franchise QB.

In 11 years, he only had 3 with a QB rating over 90.

Never threw for more than 24 TD's in a season.

Couldnt stay healthy

And threw quite a few picks (119 in 11 years).

BigMeatballDave 12-27-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8239303)
Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.

McNair a franchise QB?

LMAO

Dumbass.


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