it sure is if he's gonna let Pioli push Cassel on him as his starting QB.

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If Zorn is the OC

Why is Jim Zorn the worst pick for OC? Seriously, I don't know what the problem with him is. I don't know if he's the answer, but I don't know that he's a piece of shit either...

...what gives?

QB is all that really matters.

We aren't winning shit without a good one regardless of who the HC is.

A rare case of subtraction by addition. We've lost our great defensive coordinator in favor of a shitty head coach. That's okay, though, we wouldn't want to screw up continuity with a 7-9 team.

Well, we'd change offensive systems. He's a West Coast guy. Given how bad our offense was, that's probably not a big deal, though.

Cassel just needs more Pro-Bowlers around him.

The thing I hate about this hire is the way the Chiefs (Pioli) went about it. Why do you go on your website to deny that Crennel is hired and then go and hire him two days later? WTF is it with the secrecy out of the front office. They have to have the blinds drawn on office windows while practice is gone. Doors are locked and the media needs to be escorted to the bathroom during a presser. I know he thinks it gives us a competitive advantage but I'm seeing it has the opposite effect on the franchise. You keep the fans in the dark which creates resentment from your fanbase. You have the media that can't get any of these secrets so they go wild with accusations. I hate the fact that Pioli had a covert media campaign to make Haley look bad so that he could fire him, like the play on the field wasn't enough to do so.

like someone else said it dont matter who the HC is, if Cassel's gonna stay.

it would be a shame for Pioli to he forced to admit the trade for him was a disaster.

I hope you're kidding

I remember seeing an interview with Clark back when Lamar was still alive but Clark had sort of taken over team operations...he said that the Pittsburgh Steelers were the team model that he most admired.

The biggest hallmark of that organization is stability. They don't panic if they have a bad year, they find the problem and fix it. They draft well, year in and year out. They don't sign the flashy, expensive, big name free agents. They tend to let their own stars go when they get to that 3rd contract (which is generally the point at which production starts to wane but salary hasn't yet). Because of their stability, they've always got replacement players in the wings.

They got their franchise QB a few years back. He was the guy they wanted, and they went and got him. Before that, they were in the hunt every year, but couldn't get over the hump. The only Steelers World Championships came with Franchise Quarterbacks: Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger.

I think Clark is smart enough to see that.
I also think he gets that stability is the key to consistency; you can't have new coaches and all new systems every couple of years. You have to pick a path and stick to it.
Look at Alex Smith-the biggest problem with that kid (and he was a consensus #1) is that he's had a new OC with a different system every friggin' year.
You need a stable, consistent environment for your young players to reach their potential.
Romeo is the right guy right now. The defense is clearly improved and ascending. You don't want to scrap the 3-4 and start over with some different scheme. Stay the course and get better.
It is very important that Romeo hires a solid offensive coordinator and solid defensive coordinator, and that those guys be younger, ascending coaches because one of them, in three or four years, is going to succeed him much like Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh.

after yesterday, i would advise it.

Agreed. This is a game of grown men throwing a pigskin inflated ball around, not Area 51. Pioli needs to quit with this men in black shit. We don't have any secrets worth a shit anyway.

A good coach will be able to get this team to the playoffs every year even if Orton is the QB. With Crennel as the coach it's questionable.

Orton Yes, Cassel Never.

See? this is why you shouldn't run an NFL franchise.

Clearly, this is not their best team. They still have a franchise QB. They need an influx of talent in certain areas, but they'll still be a serious contender in 2012, right? Yes. They absolutely will.

I don't mind Crennel as HC, but my fear is the same with not drafting a QBotf and going with him even if we do. Crennel is about retire age and am sure he wants to win now and that mostly means a retread QB to start the season aka Cassel or Orton. They both suck and do not want on Chiefs.

Cassel sucks in epic proportions, Otorn will be good one week, bad another week and fugly another week then good again giving him more weeks to play.

"Sucks to be us" as Chiefs fans with either of them at QB.

but that Franchise QB lost to a team with a QB most experts say is the worst in the league. (but thats not true, Cassel is)

Yeah...and the debate about Cassel and Orton is pointless. Neither is the answer. I could care less which one gives us an extra win or two. You're spinning your wheels by keeping either guy. I'm really at a loss as to why more teams don't simply move on when it's ovious a guy doesn't work out and at least create possibilities by trying something different. An unknown is better than the crap you know.

I fully expect Cassel to be the guy next year. Having said that, if the Packers were dumb enough not to franchise and trade Flynn, I'd like to cut Cassel, not pursue Orton and sign Flynn (only if he goes to free agency) and draft another QB. Open competition with Stanzi and draftee for the number 2. I would change my tune on the Romeo hire if they simply did something akin to this.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/chiefs-live.html


Alot of fail in the chat.

I wonder if that coach from Penn State is still available...

JFC.

:facepalm:

They want us to sign Champ Bailey and draft Alshon Jeffries.

ROFL

pioli is on


"We think Cassel can carry RAC to a 3rd place finish, which is good enough..."

Crennel talking now


"I think Matt Cassel is a piece of shit"

this 2000 times

KCChiefs.com site SUCKS!!! The last 5 or 6 live events FAILED! Just like management!!!

JEEZUZ K RIST!

For audio

http://whb-am.tritondigitalmedia.com...hp?page_id=73#

Listening on 810

http://www.810whb.com/#

crennel rambling

Video

http://www.kctv5.com/category/215384...ivestream-mva1

crennel sounds like a kind grandpa

Crennel- "We want to make the fans proud."

They need to read CP

this

No decision on OC yet

doesn't know who his OC will be

Wish I could hear the questions

I sure hope Romeo leaned from his mistakes and takes this team to the next level. We're overdue for a break or two.

Sounded like he's saying Pioli is going to have major input over who it is...

'it's a process'

JoshLooneyJosh Looney





Crennel says search for an OC ongoing. Could be in or outside building

He's being evasive...Crennel's been compromised

yeah...that's why pioli hired him

Oh yay! He's done so well so far. :rolleyes:

and now pioli hogs the mic

Crennel: "I don't know what a player's coach is..."

Let me introduce you to a mirror...

Players appreciate honesty...



Romeo, "Cassel, you ****ing suck!"

LMAOLMAO Well shit...that didn't take long.

Wish the gutless KC media would ask about Cassel.

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Lots of fail here

No doubt.

If Nick wright was there, he'd do it. But I'm not sure if he is or not.

Hell, I don't know if it's a bad thing though. His first hire in Cleveland was horrendous. If I were a GM, I'd want to make sure he hires someone well qualified. For example, Pioli wanted to keep Gailey but Haley didn't want it. Pioli probably pushed Haley to bring in Weis. Muir sounded like more of a power grab for Haley than anything.

I'd want to ensure Crennel doesn't promote Carthon or something dumb like that. As well, if I am Pioli, I'd like to get a guy running the offense who will basically be a head coach in waiting/training since RAC is 64 and going to focus on the defense. So it is a key, key hire, and will likely determine how successful the RAC era is. The big thing for RAC is that he needs to be able to work with whoever it is...

They make me sick...

Interviewed at least 6 people.

Pioli lying his ass off...

Pioli makes a joke.



No one laughs.


ROFL

some of those were phone interviews.

They need a ricola.

i wish someone would ask him "What do you see yourself doing differently than Todd Haley to make this team a bigger success?"

Adam Teicher is a disgrace to journalism...

What's Crennel going to say? "I wish Matt would get impaled on an AIDS tree?"

You already know what the answer to the question would be if it were asked. A non-answer.

yep, like 8 super bowl rings of fail ...

They're going to evaluate Matt and Kyle...



Oh shit.

Finally asked about the QB. Nervous laughter...

Crennel clearly wants Kyle back.

Holy shit! We might have a new quarterback

"Go through process to evaluate QBs"

Hinting strongly at wanting Orton back unless Orton wants to go elsewhere.

"Orton is the reason I am sitting here"

Laying groundwork to not expect Orton back...

Lots of questions about Cassel.

He said that? Really? Wow.

"We HAVE won with Cassel"

...shit.

The QB status is yet to be determined



YES!

Interesting... The plot thickens..

Crennel-"Matt Cassel hasnt fallen of the wagon overnight."
No, matt Cassels been falling off the wagon for 2 years now...

Son of a bitch said Cassel took us to a playoff and can do it again. I'm sure Pioli was grabbing his nuts under the table telling him to say that.

Adam Teicher is finally doing something good.

Asking lots of questions about Cassel's situation in the team.

They pretty much just said Cassel is the man.