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Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8347952)
Stop, just stop.

Seriously, he's another Pawnsmoker. Go look in that OC thread - he and 50/50 are essentially opposite sides of the same coin. He's just a bomb-thrower; don't let him divert the thread. Put him on ignore and move along.
Pawn's one of my favorite posters, actually.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348024)
Pawn's one of my favorite posters, actually.
Makes sense.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348022)
Change everything? We aren't KU. We aren't trying to build a terrible program up to something great. We're trying to build a very strong program into something even better.

I'd rather compete against the best. If I wanted to root for a team that got wins against crappy competition, I'd pull for Northwest Missouri State.

As for the bust factor, the worst #1 recruit in the last decade went in the third round. I'm not too worried a bout a 6'5 225 WR who runs a 4.4 and holds the record for most career receiving yards in the history of high school football being a bust. He might get hurt, but he's not going to fail due to lack of talent.

8 wins has become the baseline for Mizzou football. We did that after losing underclassmen at DE and QB who went top 10 in the NFL draft and had to start a true Soph at QB.

Don't worry about Mizzou football. We're doing just fine without you.
8 wins per season is going to turn into 5 wins per season once you begin your SEC play. There is a huge difference between the Big 12 and the SEC...

Bambi 02-04-2012 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347545)
Would you rather make a FF and not land DGB than the other way around? I wouldn't unless we won the title.
Wow. Maybe one day when you reach greatness you'll realize how idiotic this line of thought is.

#1 recruits are great, but they don't compare to achievement.

Don't be scared to succeed.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8347967)
I'm anxious to see how Mizzou's offense translates against he Alabama's and the LSU's of the world who have world class athletes on the defensive side. Not saying it will fail just curious.

I'm also worried that Josey won't ever be himself again. If it was just the ACL i'd say it's pretty pessimistic to say he won't but with the Patella and the MCL added it's gonna be a long road.

It really is all about the trenches for MIzzou, especially the dline. Look how many dlineman come out of the SEC and make it to the NFL. IMO they need to focus on taking some of the great athletes they get and putting them on the defensive side.
Ofcourse it's going to fail...

Fritz88 02-04-2012 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348024)
Pawn's one of my favorite posters, actually.
Seconded.
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tredadda 02-04-2012 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348028)
8 wins per season is going to turn into 5 wins per season once you begin your SEC play. There is a huge difference between the Big 12 and the SEC...
Here's the issue with that. The SEC gets alot of hype because their best are clearly the best in the nation. The rest, not so much. Yes they have Alabama, LSU, Florida, Ark (to a point), Aub (to a point), SC (to a point) and UGA (to a point), but they also have Tenn, UK, Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss State, and aTm. Mizzou might not be the best in the SEC next year, but outside of Bama and LSU there are no other teams in the SEC right now that are CLEARLY better than Mizzou. They should easily end up with more than 5 wins

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348028)
8 wins per season is going to turn into 5 wins per season once you begin your SEC play. There is a huge difference between the Big 12 and the SEC...
That's going to suck. I wish we could beat Kentucky or Vanderbilt or Ole Miss or Mississippi State or Tennessee or aTm.

Too bad we can only win 5 of these games.

North Texas at home
Some I-AA school TBD at home
at Central Florida
Georgia at home
Arizona State at home
at South Carolina
Vanderbilt at home
Alabama at home
Kentucky at home
at Florida
at Tennessee
at aTm

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8348035)
Wow. Maybe one day when you reach greatness you'll realize how idiotic this line of thought is.

#1 recruits are great, but they don't compare to achievement.

Don't be scared to succeed.
How many jumpers did you personally knock down against Memphis?

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348047)
How many jumpers did you personally knock down against Memphis?
It's okay.

Maybe one of those high profile athletes will help you win a championship in either sport...someday.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8348049)
It's okay.

Maybe one of those high profile athletes will help you win a championship in either sport...someday.
Hopefully it's football.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8348043)
Here's the issue with that. The SEC gets alot of hype because their best are clearly the best in the nation. The rest, not so much. Yes they have Alabama, LSU, Florida, Ark (to a point), Aub (to a point), SC (to a point) and UGA (to a point), but they also have Tenn, UK, Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss State, and aTm. Mizzou might not be the best in the SEC next year, but outside of Bama and LSU there are no other teams in the SEC right now that are CLEARLY better than Mizzou. They should easily end up with more than 5 wins
Correction... Outside of Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, and Georgia there are no other teams in the SEC.
Not seeing how you will beat any teams in the SEC besides UK and Ole Miss.

O.city 02-04-2012 02:32 PM
I think the Tigers will be successful in the SEC. I think it might take a few years to become acclimated but I do think they will have a chance to be at the top of the East as soon as next year.

However, I think it will take a few years to get to the Alabama level, if that is possible for the Tigers.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 02:34 PM
Speaking of football in an MU basketball thread..


How have the Tigers finished in terms of rankings in the BigXII the past 7 seasons?

tredadda 02-04-2012 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348055)
Correction... Outside of Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, and Georgia there are no other teams in the SEC.
Not seeing how you will beat any teams in the SEC besides UK and Ole Miss.
Difference of opinion I guess as I don't think Ark, AU, or UGA are clearly better. Explain how you feel Mizzou can't compete in the SEC?

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8348059)
Speaking of football in an MU basketball thread..


How have the Tigers finished in terms of rankings in the BigXII the past 7 seasons?
Exactly... They can't even compete at the BIG 12 level let alone the SEC level.
BIG 12 is crap compared to SEC.
Okay, you might get your 8 wins but whats that going to get you? A chance to go to the Gator Bowl?

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8348061)
Difference of opinion I guess as I don't think Ark, AU, or UGA are clearly better. Explain how you feel Mizzou can't compete in the SEC?
SEC athletes are bigger, faster, and stronger then BIG 12 athletes.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348063)
Exactly... They can't even compete at the BIG 12 level let alone the SEC level.
BIG 12 is crap compared to SEC.
Okay, you might get your 8 wins but whats that going to get you? A chance to go to the Gator Bowl?
Now now....

Their program is improving while the other SEC schools remain status quo.

MU was ready to leave the BigXII for a tougher conference. They need better competition...I mean 7 straight bowl games! They are ready for a NC.

I think you will see them continue their winning ways in the SEC. Look at their dominance in the BigXII. They are ready...they have a real good WR now.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348055)
Correction... Outside of Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, and Georgia there are no other teams in the SEC.
Not seeing how you will beat any teams in the SEC besides UK and Ole Miss.
Mississippi State, Vandy, and Tennessee are really kicking ass, so we don't stand a chance there. I don't know how we're going to ever beat aTm even though we've beat them in their own barn the last 2 years by a combined 28 points and haven't lost to them since 2006.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348069)
Mississippi State, Vandy, and Tennessee are really kicking ass, so we don't stand a chance there. I don't know how we're going to ever beat aTm even though we've beat them in their own barn the last 2 years by a combined 28 points and haven't lost to them since 2006.
You're right!

Now is your chance!

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:51 PM
Oklahoma State just shit the bed. They were down 2 to Baylor with 7 seconds left. Baylor missed a FT, but OSU didn't even come close to getting the rebound.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348083)
Oklahoma State just shit the bed. They were down 2 to Baylor with 7 seconds left. Baylor missed a FT, but OSU didn't even come close to getting the rebound.
Too bad they could not have pulled that off.

O.city 02-04-2012 02:52 PM
Yep,


Did you see when it appeared that Paige got fouled on the three?

Simplicity 02-04-2012 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8348072)
You're right!

Now is your chance!
LOL at Mizzou fans thinking they can compete for anything in CFB.

Messier 02-04-2012 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348069)
Mississippi State, Vandy, and Tennessee are really kicking ass, so we don't stand a chance there. I don't know how we're going to ever beat aTm even though we've beat them in their own barn the last 2 years by a combined 28 points and haven't lost to them since 2006.

The bottom of the SEC is better than the bottom of the Big 12. MU was having a challenge winning the big 12 north, let alone the big 12 outright. MU is a good program, and they'll stay a good program in a conference where good is middle of the pack. Tennessee is a big time program that won't settle to be mediocre for long, same goes for most SEC schools.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8348095)
The bottom of the SEC is better than the bottom of the Big 12. MU was having a challenge winning the big 12 north, let alone the big 12 outright. MU is a good program, and they'll stay a good program in a conference where good is middle of the pack. Tennessee is a big time program that won't settle to be mediocre for long, same goes for most SEC schools.
Yet here I sit unafraid. Strange...

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348069)
Mississippi State, Vandy, and Tennessee are really kicking ass, so we don't stand a chance there. I don't know how we're going to ever beat aTm even though we've beat them in their own barn the last 2 years by a combined 28 points and haven't lost to them since 2006.
Don't say I didn't warn you.

Dude's a troll.

Messier 02-04-2012 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348097)
Yet here I sit unafraid. Strange...
That's fine. I think it'll be fun, and if I were an MU fan I'd love it that we are gonna play all these big teams, I wouldn't expect to compete in a meaningful way, but it's kind of an honor just to be at the big boy table.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8348108)
That's fine. I think it'll be fun, and if I were an MU fan I'd love it that we are gonna play all these big teams, I wouldn't expect to compete in a meaningful way, but it's kind of an honor just to be at the big boy table.
Nope. It's not an honor just to be there. It might seem that way for those left sucking Texas schlong, but I expect to win.

Messier 02-04-2012 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348115)
Nope. It's not an honor just to be there. It might seem that way for those left sucking Texas schlong, but I expect to win.
Win what?

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348115)
...but I expect to win.
Eh...

Good luck!

baitism 02-04-2012 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348087)
LOL at Mizzou fans thinking they can compete for anything in CFB.
Try winning a conference game first. Baby steps, son.

KC_Connection 02-04-2012 03:52 PM
So is DGB the college football version of Josh Selby?

baitism 02-04-2012 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8348170)
So is DGB the college football version of Josh Selby?
Only time will tell. I think highly touted recruits are less likely to bust out in football vs basketball because so much of football is raw athleticism; you either have it or you don't. In basketball, so much of it is just being able to hit shots.

beer bacon 02-04-2012 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8347848)
If you say so. That's still only 1 5-star and 1 4-star. Not saying you guys shouldn't be excited about the guys, but I think it's going to take a lot more to be even *competitive* in the SEC.
Maty Mauk, Morgan Steward, and Donavin Newsome are all going to be great players. I don't care if Rivals rated them three stars. The way Rivals keeps waiting fantastic spread QB prospects so low is silly. If they're trying to rate prospects based on college potential, guys like Chase Daniel and Maty Mauk should have been four stars a a minimum.

beer bacon 02-04-2012 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8348170)
So is DGB the college football version of Josh Selby?
Nope. That was Bryce Brown.

beer bacon 02-04-2012 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8348095)
The bottom of the SEC is better than the bottom of the Big 12. MU was having a challenge winning the big 12 north, let alone the big 12 outright. MU is a good program, and they'll stay a good program in a conference where good is middle of the pack. Tennessee is a big time program that won't settle to be mediocre for long, same goes for most SEC schools.
I wonder how many coaches Tennessee will go through before they find one that doesn't suck?

Messier 02-04-2012 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 8348227)
I wonder how many coaches Tennessee will go through before they find one that doesn't suck?
I don't know but they'll keep looking, and they'll be good again. You can't be average in the SEC, it's death.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 8348227)
I wonder how many coaches Tennessee will go through before they find one that doesn't suck?
Was Tenn considered a power in football before Fulmer and Manning? I always associated Fulmer with bringing high profile success to that program, and that started in what, the early 90's/late 80's?

Mizzou is not going to get there over night. But they will have the opportunity. Continue to improve in recruiting and on the field, and I think they can win the SEC.

Equal revenue sharing in SEC helps too. Mizzou will have more money to improve the facilities and the Mizzou brand. I think the future is much brighter for Mizzou than its rivals, and I think they just can't stand even the possibility that Mizzou just might make the jump up to the upper tier of college athletics.

Messier 02-04-2012 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8348230)
Was Tenn considered a power in football before Fulmer and Manning? I always associated Fulmer with bringing high profile success to that program, and that started in what, the early 90's/late 80's?

Mizzou is not going to get there over night. But they will have the opportunity. Continue to improve in recruiting and on the field, and I think they can win the SEC.

Equal revenue sharing in SEC helps too. Mizzou will have more money to improve the facilities and the Mizzou brand. I think the future is much brighter for Mizzou than its rivals, and I think they just can't stand even the possibility that Mizzou just might make the jump up to the upper tier of college athletics.
They had a rough period in the 70's, but they've won five or fewer games only four times in the last 30 years.

Trevo_410 02-04-2012 04:55 PM
Mizzoussed

O.city 02-04-2012 05:04 PM
Well I'm just hoping for a good game tonight.

I don't really think a win for either team really assures anything, in terms of Big 12 champ. I think either can can lose and still have a really good chance to win the thing.

Imon Yourside 02-04-2012 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8348271)
Well I'm just hoping for a good game tonight.

I don't really think a win for either team really assures anything, in terms of Big 12 champ. I think either can can lose and still have a really good chance to win the thing.
I think it's a must win for Missouri because it's at home.

Rams Fan 02-04-2012 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8348045)
That's going to suck. I wish we could beat Kentucky or Vanderbilt or Ole Miss or Mississippi State or Tennessee or aTm.

Too bad we can only win 5 of these games.

North Texas at home
Some I-AA school TBD at home
at Central Florida
Georgia at home
Arizona State at home
at South Carolina
Vanderbilt at home
Alabama at home
Kentucky at home
at Florida
at Tennessee
at aTm
That schedule looks impossible!1!111!

KC_Connection 02-04-2012 05:44 PM
I would say it's more important for MU as well. It's the equivalent of holding serve for them.

Rams Fan 02-04-2012 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8347944)
You guys actually think your recruits are gonna turn your program around... LOL...
Your program is garbage right now... Couple freshman is not going to change much.. But anyways good luck.
I assume you are talking about Mizzou's football team, and I am also assuming you are a Jayhawks football fan.

You are saying the football program is shit for Mizzou right now? What is Kansas'?

Simplicity 02-04-2012 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8348351)
I assume you are talking about Mizzou's football team, and I am also assuming you are a Jayhawks football fan.

You are saying the football program is shit for Mizzou right now? What is Kansas'?
You're assumption of me being a Jayhawks fan is completely wrong... Who gives a **** about Kansas... But nice try...
EDIT: I'm actually a Iowa Hawk, you know, the ones who beat you in the Insight Bowl in 2010 season.

Trevo_410 02-04-2012 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348379)
You're assumption of me being a Jayhawks fan is completely wrong... Who gives a **** about Kansas... But nice try...
Why so Butthurt then?

Quit bitchin.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-04-2012 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348087)
LOL at Mizzou fans thinking they can compete for anything in CFB.
Wicked's even dumber lil brother?

Simplicity 02-04-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8348390)
Wicked's even dumber lil brother?
Do you actually think you can contend for anything meaningful in DIV 1 CFB? and you are calling me the dumb one. :spock:

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 07:10 PM
garypinkel Gary Pinkel
An exciting night to be a Tiger, but then every night is. Go Missouri!

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 07:12 PM
Less than an hour to tip off. GO TIGERS!

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 07:16 PM
Love it:

http://m.urbandictionary.com/#define?term=shit-hole

Pasta Little Brioni 02-04-2012 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8348395)
Do you actually think you can contend for anything meaningful in DIV 1 CFB? and you are calling me the dumb one. :spock:
I'm not understanding the point of an Iowa fan running amok in here. Go find a Stanzi thread to fill your spank bank.

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 07:47 PM
mellinger Sam Mellinger
I think that's a pro-sportsmanship video playing on the videoboard. I'm not sure, though, because DGB just walked on the court. #Mizzou

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 07:48 PM
I refuse to post in that beaker tainted game thread.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 07:48 PM
Love Jay Bilas's comments about the rivalry, basically said ku was being a whiny little bitch.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8348573)
I refuse to post in that beaker tainted game thread.
This thread is better, except for that cocksucking Iowa fan that has been hanging around.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 07:49 PM
Where does Mizzou hang their banners in the arena? I don't see them.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 07:52 PM
Crowd is hyped up. This is going to be a good one.

Messier 02-04-2012 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8348582)
Where does Mizzou hang their banners in the arena? I don't see them.
Must be outside.

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:07 PM
Wow. Long three pointer.

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:10 PM
Missouri keeping the pace slow so far

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:11 PM
Need to settle down Mizzou. Don't let the game get away.

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:12 PM
Not going to be a close game if they don't miss a 3

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:12 PM
Damnit...need to take better shots.

At least we got an offensive foul on Taylor on the other end.

petegz28 02-04-2012 08:13 PM
KU 3-4 for 3's.....

Priest31kc 02-04-2012 08:14 PM
Not a great start defensively for Mizzou...

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:15 PM
Wow...they just showed a trophy case full of trophies....

Wickedson said we did not have any....

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:19 PM
Speed it up

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:22 PM
Good defense by Moore to force the jump ball.

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:24 PM
Awesome old film

Mr. Flopnuts 02-04-2012 08:26 PM
There are a lot of douchebag KU fans. I'm gonna have to post in this one.

jjjayb 02-04-2012 08:27 PM
Since when can you jump, land and jump again with the ball?

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:29 PM
Mizzou in the bonus. Need to start pounding that ball inside and drawing those fouls.

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:30 PM
Can't be doing that

stonedstooge 02-04-2012 08:32 PM
Where's this Denmon been?

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 08:33 PM
Denmon!!!

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 08:35 PM
Robinson pushes off, but English gets the foul.

petegz28 02-04-2012 08:35 PM
WHAT A BULLSHIT CALL!


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