I've heard many argue that Satnzi was drafted to be a career backup. Isn't that what we have as a starter now? I'm not saying he's the next Tom Brady, but he needs to get a chance to succeed. Haley never gave him that chance. RAC was trying to get a HC job. Let's see what the kid can do in camp.

Before even starting, at this stage in both careers, Stanzi already has more highlight videos. Sad really we didn't at least give him a try over Palko.

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He was never going to play. He was told prior to the season to be prepared for it. It's the Patriot Way.

Ah, Dick Stanzi. KC fans last hope.

there is a huge difference between the two. Palko has been around a number of years in the NFL. He's been through training camps galore, seen different NFL defenses, offseasons, etc., etc, etc.
Stanzi on the other hand, didn't have an NFL offseason, had an abreviated training camp., and was probably given even less snaps than a rookie normally would, because with the lack of an offseason, the starter and second guy were going to need even more.
As far as the preseason, Haley totally tanked that. It's pretty much been established that Haley was a moron with regards to how he ran the preseason. Stanzi didn't even play in the final game and only played sparingly the other three. That is unheard of for a third stringer. Hell, even Casey Printers, Jonathan Quinn, and a slew of wanna bes got more playing time.
Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shot yet. He will this year. IF he is good in training camp, then he'll get more time in preseason. If he blows in training camp, he might not see as much time in preseason games. Simple as that.
We (as fans) and the team still don't know what they have in Stanzi. There simply isn't any way to know yet. Four months from now, we will. Until then, anything other than "lets give him a chance and see what he has" is an invalid argument.
I hope he has "it", and can develop into a solid NFL starter. If not, I hope he can be a solid NFL backup. We shall see.

Pretty simple, there are a lot of very vocal Iowa fans on CP who think the sun rises and sets on Stanzi.

He may end up being a terrific starting QB at some point (hopefully soon), but there is nobody who could really know at this point based on what we've seen.

ROFL

Hawkeye fan here and I can assure CP...Stanzi is not our future..
Move on nothing to see here.

but ...he is better then Cassel though.

At worst, I think he's the best QB we have.

Link?

Stanzi told several former teammates that. Ed Podolak mentioned it on the radio a few months ago (in the dead period between the end of the season and the Hawkeyes bowl game).

HAHA, this is post of the year for me :evil:

My year only started in Feb though.

I also did an install for the wife of someone with direct knowledge of the situation that works for the team that told me the same thing.

It was a management call that had nothing to do with coaching.

She didn't say it was a Pioli call specifically, just a "management call".

I never heard anyone else say it.

I'm not a Iowa fan but have been bird hunting up there a couple of times and it was pretty good.

I like Stanzi as a prospect because his resume has alot of things on it that point o him having a chance to make it as an NFL QB. His size is good, he has enough starts, he's won enough games, he's won bowl games, he has an addequate completion%, and he has a natural, easy throwing motion. He also seems like a natural leader.

That was off the top of my head but I'm sure there's another reason or two I'd like to see him get a real chance.

"Stanzilla" FTW.

That's cool that the administration allowed you to bird hunt on campus.

It was an off campus venture.

Stanzi won't get any time but in pre-season. However, I can see him starting next year.

If Pioli lets Stanzi go, he'll be the next Len Dawson for some other NFL team. He's so good, that Pioli will never let him go. Except when he's started for a couple years, and his contract is up.

Awesome, the two fades to the opposite corners of the endzone starting at 1:16 are killer.

How bouts we let him throw those to the Killer Bee's.

LMAO

2:38-2:50-- Ricky ****ing Stanzi to Tony ****ing Moeaki!

There is no myth, only hope!

We should have drafted Marvin McNutt so we could have U of I south. He's actually pretty good from what I understand...great hands, height and strength. I think the knock on him was his speed, but he's a good route runner.

I used to love seeing "Mcnutt All Over Your Faces" t-shirts around.

We drafted the guy because we liked what we saw. It's time to see if he can get it done at the NFL level 'cause we know the guy ahead of him can't...

This thread made me fart a rainbow.

Well considering this coaching staff makes rookie offensive linemen come off the bench in their first year....instead of starting.....it didn't surprise me that Stanzi never saw the field.

Mother****er better get more playing time this year though. I'm praying for a Cassel bench/injury.

He picked Stanzi. So he kinda would get Credit if he has any success.

So..... the mannequin in the "New Jersey Numbers" article on kcchiefs.com was wearing #12 (Stanzi's new number). Are they just trying to doink with us?

If all you have to do is be equal to or better than Cassel and you are not.... Well let me introduce you to the mythical Ricky "Secret Weapon" Stanzi.

She was adamant that it wasn't a coaching call at all.

It wasn't. Just like it's not a coaching decision to sit rookie linemen.

It's an ORGANIZATIONAL philosophy.

Let me explain it to you this way.

1) Cassel Sucks

2) There are a lot of Iowa fans around here who watched him play. (I am not a hawks fan, Cyclone actually, even though I support a change to Stanzi) Anyways, Imagine if you will, there was a Missouri or Kansas QB on the Chiefs roster that in 3 seasons threw 56 TD's over 7,000 yards, just 31 INT's in 907 attempts. Had a 26-9 record as starting QB, started and won all 3 of his Bowl games. Wouldn't fans want him to be just given a "Chance" to see what he could do in the NFL?

Stanzi made more plays in preseason last year when he wasnt nanosacked than cassel has his whole career here.

Stanzi= Franchise Savior?

I'm not even an Iowa fan. I just like what I see in him as a QB.

Well, enough to give him a chance, anyway. He's not like Casey Printers or some other schmuck like that.

You forgot he had better stats in the Big Ten than Brady.

You pretty much nailed it. We don't have Manning, Bree's or Rodgers on the roster so why not give him a chance.

Yes it is known to be proven. Nice try though.

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Had some ups and downs in the 1st game...hard to tell with the lack of protection. Looked mostly bad in the 2nd game, but again... had $hit for protection. Had some shaky moments in the 3rd game, but seemed to progress as the game went on.

Uh...no, it is not. Poor try, though.

Those videos make you wonder if the backup OL ever actually practices blocking.

Wow, Stanzi looked a lot better than I remember him. Not too much panic in the pocket, although there was some. Good placement as the game went on for sure.

Color me interested.

:hmmm:

Would any of you trade Stanzi straight up for Brock Osweiler?

Chicken Shit Soup

Too bad Palko was so far up Haley's rump. It would have been nice to see Stanzi get some reps with the #1 team in game 4.

LMAO

**** no. I love Stanzi almost as much as I love America. I don't know what would make me feel worse than trading Stanzi for Osweiler. Probably someone desecrating the American flag.

I like Ricki. He brought me to my feet at least once a game with his patented "WTF are you thinking!!" interceptions but I like him. Wonder if he'll ever get a shot at some meaningful NFL playing minutes.

how many guys that Stanzi was playing with in those videos are even on the team right now?

Baldwin? Copper? anyone else? lol

Stanzi = Brees?

Because they are both B1G?

LOVE that throw at the 10 second mark to Verran Tucker.

Overall I'm seeing the guts and heart that I've been talking about all year. Would have liked to see him attempt some of those throws where he's forced out of the pocket instead of tucking and running. But hey, he was a goddamn rookie.

Showed pretty solid improvement throughout the games even though the offensive line did not.

Can't wait to watch him this preseason! Thanks rico for posting these!

I agree. The dude looks like a gunslinger. He's looking downfield and he's not afraid to cut it loose. While not perfect, you can tell that the raw talent is there. IMO, he looks exactly like the type of player that needs in game experience and a better understanding of where his WR's are going to be.

I think he has the tools to be a good QB in this league.

This video proves that Scott Pioli sucks at evaluating OL depth.

I'm really afraid of what that means drafting as big of a project guy as Stephenson.

Interesting.

I'd be somewhat tempted to consider it, but I think even with homerism aside I'd keep the kid we drafted.

God, I'd forgotten how awful our team was in the preseason and the beginning of the season last year. Those were dark times.

I honestly don't have an opinion one way or the other at this point. I'd like to have Stanzi because I've liked some things about him over the years and because he's a Hawk.

Osweiler has some measurables.

Neither has proven a thing in the NFL.

Anyone who can watch that film clip and not see the difference between Stanzi and Cassell is certifiable.

That's pretty much where I'm at, too.

Like I said, I'd keep Stanzi...a big part of that is because I don't think Cassel is the starter by mid season and I think RS is "more ready" to play if called upon.

He can throw the Pig Skin a quarter mile and knock you off a bike with a t bone steak--oh wait I think that was in a movie? :hmmm:

ummmm "Hey Ricki your so fine you blow my mind HEY RICKI!!!!

His theme song is catchy.

That makes sense. I'd like to see Stanzi get a shot with the first-teamers.

RICKI?!?!?!

http://www.suckered.us/images/Ricki_Lake.jpg

NO WAY do I want Ricki leading this team.

Osweiler's a big (literally) hit-or-miss prospect. Stanzi had a little more balance coming out of college and has a year's worth of experience in the NFL. Simply, he's more valuable than Osweiler. And if you're in the Chiefs' situation and don't have Peyton Manning as your starting QB, Stanzi BY FAR makes more sense.

Besides, what's Osweiler's ceiling? Big Ben? Hell yeah I'd love to have Big Ben as my starting QB. What's Stanzi's ceiling? Tom Brady. Also pretty damn good.

Both QBs have the same incredibly small chance of achieving their respective ceilings, but Stanzi IS one year into his NFL career. He's got a significant leg up.

Screw homerism being a reason you'd keep him. I think he's just as good as Osweiler as a prospect. It makes no ****ing sense whatsoever to draft a developmental QB then chuck him in the garbage after one year and take another guy when the potential payoff isn't all that much better. In fact, it's far more likely that Osweiler is a giant bust based on the steep learning curve he has.

I watched the three videos from preseason games one, two, and three. I basically counted the number of times it appeared that Stanzi had even a remote chance to complete a pass because of adequate time without the pocket totally colapsing around him. I figured with that, he was about 15 for 25 with a TD and an INT on a deflection. I think he would have more time with a decent O line. I hope we see the kid at least get a chance.

I think it sheds some light on how we actually ended up with a guy like Barry Richardson on our OL. On some of those plays, they are in Stanzi's face literally a second after the ball is snapped.

The minute we trade Stanzi he is guaranteed to win at least 2 Super Bowls and be a first ballot HOFer.

id like to see Stanzi with real NFL talent around him not 10 other guys where 8 of them are currently out of league

Jeez no wonder we drafted Donald Stephenson. Mims is unbelievably bad.

if ever there was a "trent green pt II" this is the guy. noodle arm but smart & patient, has some close range accuracy.

but without a stellar OL and a smart tough RB like PH, green was nothing and that's like ricki stanzi was last pre season.

it could work out for him like it did green. maybe not.

I might not have worded it correctly but I was saying that "homerism" had NOTHING to do with my take on the situation.

I said way before the draft that there were only 3 qbs that I felt were better than my boy and I meant it.

Just like I meant it when I said Stanzi was a mid-late second round quality prospect.

I'll ALWAYS believe that Stanzi would have had a similar rookie year to that of Dalton if given the chance. I think they were very similar prospects.

Prior to the draft most draft niks had them in the same tier.

:spock:

Stanzi and Green had noodle arms?

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green thru one of the best sideline pass routes in the league at that time .. no his arm wasnt a noodle .....

Definitely. And that's going to be the annoying part this entire offseason (as it has been all offseason)- determining why Dalton got the break in the draft and Stanzi fell.

I still think that scouts placed far too much emphasis on the mistakes Stanzi made as a sophomore and junior. Whatever, though. We never will find out why teams soured on him the way we did.

jesus christ you ppl are dense. trent green had a weak arm. he wasn't very good. that's why the chargers drafted him in the 10th round and that is why.... holy **** forget it. stanzi is montana. or elway or whover you ****tards want him to be.

Wut?

Trent Green certainly wasn't elite, but "not very good"?

Those mistakes were &%$#@!* maddening though. But I always forgave him for the regular season mistakes once bowl time rolled around.

What teams were rumored to have worked him out or were rumored to have been scouting him heavily? I have heard the Titans, Bengals and Browns worked him out. Were there any others? In 2011, I can't remember off the top of my head who those teams ended up drafting in the rounds leading to Stanzi in #5 (with an exception of the Bengals selecting Dalton and the Titans selecting Locker)... With those teams, I am guessing the Bengals preferred Dalton over Stanzi and the Titans liked Locker a lot. I am guessing that the Browns were still teeter-tottering with Colt Mccoy at the time. Were the 49ers rumored to have scouted Stanzi heavily?