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R8RFAN 07-12-2012 12:44 PM

Why don't you trailer park trash just pay for what the hell you get and quit trying to always **** somebody out of some money..

Quit buying stupid shit you can't afford and you would have plenty of money to pay for it.

Cheap bastards

Bearcat 07-12-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8734919)
Sports is the only tricky part about cutting cable. I cut cable about 2 years ago, and I've been pretty happy with it, outside of live sports. In my experience the last few years, NFL has been the easiest to find good online streams. Followed by hockey(especially playoffs). College football is tough to find online, but most of the popular games are on OTA stations or ESPN, which there's always a stream for. Baseball is tough, outside of the most popular teams.

All movies/TV though, is very easily found after cutting cable. From multiple sources. Every TV show or available movie I ever want to watch is available for streaming in 720p 1-2 days after airing. I've never had an issue watching anything I want, with no need to even download anything to my hard drives.

I'm surprised the NFL has been the easiest, but I didn't know about firstrow (or is it frontrow...) a few years ago and I know a couple of sites have moved outside of the US since I relied on the online streams. A lot of the NFL streams I used a few years ago would get whacked by halftime, so I'd end up spending $25+ at Buffalo Wild Wings (since then, I've cut way back on sports bars, which practically pays for cable during football and CBB season).

On one hand, I've gone without it before and could cope. OTOH, I love all of the choices... being able to watch one of 20 CFB games on TV or up to 4 on ESPN3, getting college hockey games, CBB, etc. I hardly watch anything else on TV, so it's nice to pretty much always have a game on when I'm home or have several options on a Saturday afternoon and avoid a lot of commercials.

Like I've said before, between saving money not going to sports bars and all of the choices in glorious HD, I think it's mostly worth it... but, there are definitely annoyances (commercials, raising rates by as much as 10% at a time, and oh yeah.. I don't have ABC through TWC at the moment :facepalm: ), and simply being able to get espn3 without paying for ESPN would be the perfect solution and save some money.

Bearcat 07-12-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8734982)
Why don't you trailer park trash just pay for what the hell you get and quit trying to always **** somebody out of some money..

Quit buying stupid shit you can't afford and you would have plenty of money to pay for it.

Cheap bastards

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...is-obvious.jpg

007 07-12-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8734563)
Sports are curiously being forgotten.... I know I can get NHL GameCenter on my ps3, but they don't show the playoffs and several games are blacked out. I can get Sunday Ticket, but I assume Chiefs games would be blacked out, and I don't know if they show the playoffs. There are online streams, which I used for a couple of years, but they aren't reliable (especially the NFL, since they're pretty aggressive about getting them taken down).

Watching pretty much every game I want to see >>>> online streaming

If I could pay $200 for NHL GameCenter (and get the playoffs), $10-15/month for the basic channels in HD, and get espn3 separate from cable, I could pay $20/month just for espn3 and still come in way under what I'm paying now for all the crap I could do without.

I love how they just assume everyone has access to all those sports channels when the playoffs start. Blackout rules need to be blacked out.

DaFace 07-12-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8735127)

Perhaps, but I don't really disagree with him. It's not like there's a lack of affordable entertainment these days. If people want to pirate, then by all means go for it, but let's not pretend like we're being forced to steal these days because everything's so expensive.

DaFace 07-12-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8735763)
I love how they just assume everyone has access to all those sports channels when the playoffs start. Blackout rules need to be blacked out.

To be fair, they did relax them quite a bit this year.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...or-2012-season

tk13 07-12-2012 04:53 PM

There definitely comes a point where you get what you pay for. Just look at how terrible TV was the year of the writer's strike. It's just like anything else, it's a business. If you don't think it's worth your support, then don't support it. Of course they're trying to make money. Sports is no different. It's a business. If you want to be entertained by the best people in the world in their entertainment venue, whether it's sports, music, movies... those people are going to ask for a lot of money to do it. Especially when the big wigs calling the shots are making millions off their work.

Bearcat 07-12-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8735775)
Perhaps, but I don't really disagree with him. It's not like there's a lack of affordable entertainment these days. If people want to pirate, then by all means go for it, but let's not pretend like we're being forced to steal these days because everything's so expensive.

I know there are a lot of people who want something for nothing, but there are also a lot of people who go the free route because there's no middle ground. CDs weren't expensive, but I wasn't going to buy one to get the two songs I wanted... as soon as there was a better option, I took it, and now happily pay per song.

If you like TV shows and movies, there are definitely many choices and you'll basically get what you pay for... right now though, sports is a different issue.


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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8735793)
There definitely comes a point where you get what you pay for. Just look at how terrible TV was the year of the writer's strike. It's just like anything else, it's a business. If you don't think it's worth your support, then don't support it. Of course they're trying to make money. Sports is no different. It's a business. If you want to be entertained by the best people in the world in their entertainment venue, whether it's sports, music, movies... those people are going to ask for a lot of money to do it. Especially when the big wigs calling the shots are making millions off their work.

I don't think anyone wants to deny anyone a decent living.... but, it becomes a problem when the customer suffers because billionaires are squabbling over a million or two million dollars.

CBS pays eleventy billion dollars for NFL games, but they'll make up for it by drowning the fans in commercials. Demand is up, so let's charge <strike>$15</strike> <strike>$20</strike> $27 for parking on top of the $80 tickets... oops, we priced out our most loyal fans. Oh, and your cable bill is going up $10/month, but we're taking away ABC while we squabble over 20 cents/customer.... after all, we only made half a billion dollars this quarter.

007 07-12-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8735780)
To be fair, they did relax them quite a bit this year.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...or-2012-season

Doesn't help those of us that don't have espn though, which was more my point. Drives me nuts how all sports seem to be moving to cable now.

007 07-12-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8735837)
I know there are a lot of people who want something for nothing, but there are also a lot of people who go the free route because there's no middle ground. CDs weren't expensive, but I wasn't going to buy one to get the two songs I wanted... as soon as there was a better option, I took it, and now happily pay per song.

If you like TV shows and movies, there are definitely many choices and you'll basically get what you pay for... right now though, sports is a different issue.




I don't think anyone wants to deny anyone a decent living.... but, it becomes a problem when the customer suffers because billionaires are squabbling over a million or two million dollars.

CBS pays eleventy billion dollars for NFL games, but they'll make up for it by drowning the fans in commercials. Demand is up, so let's charge <strike>$15</strike> <strike>$20</strike> $27 for parking on top of the $80 tickets... oops, we priced out our most loyal fans. Oh, and your cable bill is going up $10/month, but we're taking away ABC while we squabble over 20 cents/customer.... after all, we only made half a billion dollars this quarter.

don't forget about them charging $3.99 per tv episode now. That is beyond stupid.


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