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Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8762334)
Is Falco starting 5 games again? Because hell Pitt was ripe for the picking if he wasn't playing catch with thier DBs.

He lost to New England, Pittsburgh and New York.

Pretty sure Cassel could do that.

O.city 07-23-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762576)
He lost to New England, Pittsburgh and New York.

Pretty sure Cassel could do that.

Effectively tiptoed around that one.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-23-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8762582)
Effectively tiptoed around that one.

Not really. Falco gave the Steeler game away. Even Cassel could have won that one. Hell Tebow beat em.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 07:32 PM

Cassel lost to ****ing Tebow, he could lose to the ****ing Steelers.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 07:35 PM

We had four sub-10 point games with Cassel (he only produced 7 points against Denver), and two with Palko.

Did someone order a fatality?

Chief Roundup 07-23-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762647)
We had four sub-10 point games with Cassel (he only produced 7 points against Denver), and two with Palko.

Did someone order a fatality?

Not defending Cassel but that was when we were so unprepared to play the game that it wasn't funny. I am sure that Cassel is a better QB than Palko.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8762671)
Not defending Cassel but that was when we were so unprepared to play the game that it wasn't funny. I am sure that Cassel is a better QB than Palko.

Two of them were at midseason.

Messier 07-23-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762637)
Cassel lost to ****ing Tebow, he could lose to the ****ing Steelers.

Your insistence on comparing QBs as if they're directly competing against each other is stupid. QBs are going against the defense. Saying this QBed team beat that QBed team is a bad way of judging who's better. Cassel is not a good QB, and there are many ways to prove this, but your QB-o-meter sucks.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 08:28 PM

It's not, really.

Why the **** do you think Cassel is .200 against elite QBs?

And FYI, the point, really, is that Cassel got beay 17-10, in a game he put up 7 points.

He could get beat 13-9 just as easy.

And he got beat 13-10 in his first Chiefs start.

DaneMcCloud 07-23-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762802)
It's not, really.

Why the **** do you think Cassel is .200 against elite QBs?

There is no doubt that Cassel sucks ass. None whatsoever. But with that said, I think he was paired with the worst Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator in the history of the franchise.

Messier 07-23-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762802)
It's not, really.

Why the **** do you think Cassel is .200 against elite QBs?

And FYI, the point, really, is that Cassel got beay 17-10, in a game he put up 7 points.

He could get beat 13-9 just as easy.

And he got beat 13-10 in his first Chiefs start.

What is an elite QB? Is Cam Newton elite? So, this year we play against Manning twice, Brees, Rivers twice, Roethlisberger, and Newton. I think that's it. Ryan is not elite to me, and Newton is pushing it. That's seven games against elite QBs. You think we win one? What if our D is lights out and Denvers D is shit? Could we beat Manning?

It's sooooooo much more about how our Defense does against these QBs.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8762835)
What is an elite QB? Is Cam Newton elite? So, this year we play against Manning twice, Brees, Rivers twice, Roethlisberger, and Newton. I think that's it. Ryan is not elite to me, and Newton is pushing it. That's seven games against elite QBs. You think we win one? What if our D is lights out and Denvers D is shit? Could we beat Manning?

It's sooooooo much more about how our Defense does against these QBs.

Ryan is at least as good as Flacco.

Don't like our chances against:

Manningx2
Riversx2
Roethlisberger
Brees
Ryan
Flacco

That's half the schedule.

Slim margin for error.

And yes, our D plays a part, but if Cassel keeps going 3 and out, and we can't respond to scores...say goodnight. Give good QBs too many chances, and die.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 01:27 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...sound-familiar

6-10, last in the West, and heads will roll.


Atlanta at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Falcons 20, Chiefs 17

Kansas City at Buffalo, 1 p.m. -- Bills 28, Chiefs 23

Kansas City at New Orleans, 1 p.m. -- Saints 33, Chiefs 21

San Diego at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 20, Chargers 19

Baltimore at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Ravens 20, Chiefs 17

Kansas City at Tampa Bay, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 21, Bucs 17

Oakland at Kansas City, 4:05 p.m. -- Raiders 21, Chiefs 20

Kansas City at San Diego, 8:20 p.m. -- Chargers 23, Chiefs 20

Kansas City at Pittsburgh, 8:30 p.m. -- Steelers 27, Chiefs 17

Cincinnati at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 26, Bengals 17

Denver at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Broncos 23, Chiefs 20

Carolina at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 19, Panthers 16

Kansas City at Cleveland, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 20, Browns 13

Kansas City at Oakland, 4:15 p.m. -- Raiders 13, Chiefs 10

Indianapolis at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 17, Colts 10

Kansas City at Denver, 4:15 p.m. -- Broncos 24, Chiefs 14

Rausch 07-24-2012 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8763397)
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...sound-familiar

6-10, last in the West, and heads will roll.


Atlanta at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Falcons 20, Chiefs 17

Kansas City at Buffalo, 1 p.m. -- Bills 28, Chiefs 23

Kansas City at New Orleans, 1 p.m. -- Saints 33, Chiefs 21

San Diego at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 20, Chargers 19

Baltimore at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Ravens 20, Chiefs 17

Kansas City at Tampa Bay, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 21, Bucs 17

Oakland at Kansas City, 4:05 p.m. -- Raiders 21, Chiefs 20

Kansas City at San Diego, 8:20 p.m. -- Chargers 23, Chiefs 20

Kansas City at Pittsburgh, 8:30 p.m. -- Steelers 27, Chiefs 17

Cincinnati at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 26, Bengals 17

Denver at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Broncos 23, Chiefs 20

Carolina at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 19, Panthers 16

Kansas City at Cleveland, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 20, Browns 13

Kansas City at Oakland, 4:15 p.m. -- Raiders 13, Chiefs 10

Indianapolis at Kansas City, 1 p.m. -- Chiefs 17, Colts 10

Kansas City at Denver, 4:15 p.m. -- Broncos 24, Chiefs 14

You should rethink this.

If KC can consistently score 20+ pts (I don't think they can) we aren't going to lose 10 games. This defense is a top 15, perhaps top 10, unit...

Pasta Little Brioni 07-24-2012 09:17 AM

More like Raiders will go 6-10.

Warrior5 07-24-2012 09:27 AM

Battle Toad should use this for TC motivation.




Piss on Prisco.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-24-2012 09:28 AM

So, the Chiefs go 1-5 in the division and get swept by Denver and Oakland ROFL riiiiiight

They go 5-5 against this mythical, super, tough, impossible out of division schedule and go 1-5 against this sorry ass division.

Chronic 07-24-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8763636)
So, the Chiefs go 1-5 in the division and get swept by Denver and Oakland ROFL riiiiiight

They go 5-5 against this mythical, super, tough, impossible out of division schedule and go 1-5 against this sorry ass division.

The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

Messier 07-24-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8763649)
The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

The Chiefs are better than the Raiders.

Sofa King 07-24-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8763649)
The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

I'm still asking why this turd isn't banned.

lcarus 07-24-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8763408)
You should rethink this.

If KC can consistently score 20+ pts (I don't think they can) we aren't going to lose 10 games. This defense is a top 15, perhaps top 10, unit...

Agreed. This D played well against Rodgers, Rivers, Peyton, even Brady in Foxborough for a stretch. All of those games besides Manning was without Berry. We can beat teams with elite QBs.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-24-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8763672)
Agreed. This D played well against Rodgers, Rivers, Peyton, even Brady in Foxborough for a stretch. All of those games besides Manning was without Berry. We can beat teams with elite QBs.

add Ben to that list. But, but, but they can only slow down bad QB's. Fail.

RealSNR 07-24-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8763649)
The Chiefs got swept by the Raiders 2 years ago- in 2010, ...you know,... that's the year everybody on this board thinks the Chiefs will recapture

And? The Chiefs swept you sorry assholes 8-0 during the Vermeil and Herm years.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It's just really raw and undeveloped.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-24-2012 10:00 AM

Chimpionship always trolls until something bad happens to his Faiders, then he runs and hides. We won't see much of him this season.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8763636)
So, the Chiefs go 1-5 in the division and get swept by Denver and Oakland ROFL riiiiiight

We were 2-4 against a weaker division in 2010.

And came very close to getting swept.

Ming the Merciless 07-24-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 8753445)
If Mark and Jammal put up those numbers I dont think we go 6-10.

Thats kind of what I was thinking.....

Messier 07-24-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8763721)
We were 2-4 against a weaker division in 2010.

And came very close to getting swept.

And last year, with a crappy depleted team we were close to winning every game.

3-3 in division.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8763732)
And last year, with a crappy depleted team we were close to winning every game.

3-3 in division.

Tim Tebow, Kyle Boller and a ****ing miracle!

Big shock that we lost the other games.

You need to let it sink in: we have the worst QB in the division. That gets you beat most of the time.

Chronic 07-24-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8763662)
The Chiefs are better than the Raiders.

They didn't prove that on the field last year, and they haven't proved that this year..... yet, so until then.. it's all unicorns and glitter for Chief fans

And spare me the injury crap.. the Raiders lost both their RB and QB too, as well as WR's etc and finished higher than the Chiefs.. in fact they beat the Chiefs in week 16 in Arrowhead, Chiefs had every opportunity to win that game and didnt

Messier 07-24-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8763839)
They didn't prove that on the field last year, and they haven't proved that this year..... yet, so until then.. it's all unicorns and glitter for Chief fans

And spare me the injury crap.. the Raiders lost both their RB and QB too, as well as WR's etc and finished higher than the Chiefs.. in fact they beat the Chiefs in week 16 in Arrowhead, Chiefs had every opportunity to win that game and didnt

Yes they did. You only mentioned the blocked field goal game, not the 28-0 game, so they did prove it on the field, and spare me the Boller, and Palmers first game crap.

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8764103)
Yes they did. You only mentioned the blocked field goal game, not the 28-0 game, so they did prove it on the field, and spare me the Boller, and Palmers first game crap.

What?

We won that game solely because of Kyle Boller.

Our offense wasn't good.

The Raiders own us hard the last two years. We need to PROVE otherwise. Not this "lololol we have talent bros" bullshit.

Easy 6 07-24-2012 01:16 PM

I dont give a fart in the wind about Palmer, oakland is a team in serious transition, brand new from the top down & missing several key players from years past... they're pretty much entering the same phase we went through with Piolis arrival & institution of a brand new program.

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

Messier 07-24-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764115)
What?

We won that game solely because of Kyle Boller.

Our offense wasn't good.

The Raiders own us hard the last two years. We need to PROVE otherwise. Not this "lololol we have talent bros" bullshit.

I maintain the Chiefs D was on that day, and the Raiders would have been out of luck at full strength. Boller was awful, Palmer was awful, our D was really good.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8763750)
Tim Tebow, Kyle Boller and a ****ing miracle!

Big shock that we lost the other games.

You need to let it sink in: we have the worst QB in the division. That gets you beat most of the time.

And yet the Chiefs routinely beat the Chargers once a year and the Ravens consistently make the playoffs (I'd take Ruthlessraper and even Andy Dalton over Flacco).

While the Chiefs absolutely need to find a true Franchise QB, it's ridiculous to state they'll lose every game in which they face a superior QB. That's simply not the case.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 01:28 PM

I didn't say we would lose every game against superior QBs.

But generally speaking, the team with the worst QB in a given division isn't winning that division.

And Cassel enjoys losing to inferior QBs from time to time, too.

We'll be no better than 3-3 against the AFC West.

Chronic 07-24-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8764103)

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 8764154)

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

whoman69 07-24-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764282)
They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL



Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison. You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.

Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.

The Raiders are better for Al Davis being out of the way, but will the younger Davis just turn into another all controlling owner?

I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.

Brock 07-24-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764282)
Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

You're quite a homer.

BigMeatballDave 07-24-2012 03:16 PM

Hey Chronic-tard, QB rating is not a percentage.

Chronic 07-24-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8764331)
Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

Ones coming off an ACL- the other a sprained foot

Quote:

You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison.
Some would agree with the poison being when Al was alive.. however this is a new era- Al Davis has past- Reggie McKenzie- the ex-Director of player personel for the Packers is now GM- Some have said he's the best young talent evaluator in the league right now...

But to Al's credit

Gruden was an unknown when he went to the Raiders, so was HOF John Madden, so was Tom Flores who won 2 SB's as a Raiders coach

Al Davis won 3 SB's.. the Hunts won 1 back when there were like 8 teams and people were still dying of polio

Romeo was 24-40 as a HC- One is unproven (Dennis Allen) the other one is a proven loser (Romeo Crennel)


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You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.
The Dolphins got worse

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Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.
Hmm.. I dunno bou't that...

That OL avg age is 24
RB McFadden- 24
RB - Taiwan Jones - 23
RB - Mike Goodson - 25
FB - Marcel Reece - 27
WR Jacoby Ford - 24
WR Denarious Moore -23
WR- Heyward -Bey -25
WR- Juron Criner - 22
QB - Palmer - 32
TE David Ausberry - 23
TE Brandon Meyers - 26

DE- Matt Shuagnessy - 25
DE - Lamarr Houston - 25
DT - Tommy Kelly - 30
DT-Richard Seymour -32
DT- Desmond Bryant - 26
DT - Christo Biliukidi - 23
DT - Travis Ivy - 25
OLB Phillip Wheeler - 27
MLB - Ro McClain - 23
OLB Aaron Curry - 26
LB - Travis Goethel - 25
LB - Miles Burris - 24
CB - Demarcus Van Dyke - 23
CB - Chemdi Chekwa - 23
CB - Ron Bartell - 29
CB - Shawntee Spencer - 30
CB - Conroy Black - 23
S - Tyvone Branch - 25
S- Michael Huff - 28
S -Matt Giodano - 29
S -Aaron Henry - 23
S- Brandon Underwood - 26


The above proves 1 thing

You're a confused individual


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I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.
Yeah, okay.....

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764507)
The Dolphins got worse

It's hard to believe but this guy may be more clueless than AutumnWind.

BossChief 07-24-2012 03:44 PM

They have us losing 8 of our 10 losses by 5 or less points?

I don't see it.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764550)
They have us losing 8 of our 10 losses by 5 or less points?

I don't see it.

I don't see your point.

Prisco's scores basically have us giving up about 20 PPG, while scoring 19. I can see that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-24-2012 03:50 PM

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The last time the Chiefs went to the playoffs, they did it with Cassel
Yeasssss, and what a GREAT showing by Murk Turdenheimer it was!

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764561)
I don't see your point.

Prisco's scores basically have us giving up about 20 PPG, while scoring 19. I can see that.

My point?

That I don't see us losing every single close game we will play this year.

I'll take split of those games for a 10-6 finish.

TLO 07-24-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762802)
It's not, really.

Why the **** do you think Cassel is .200 against elite QBs?

And FYI, the point, really, is that Cassel got beay 17-10, in a game he put up 7 points.

He could get beat 13-9 just as easy.

And he got beat 13-10 in his first Chiefs start.

Did Cassel bang your wife or something?

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8764516)
It's hard to believe but this guy may be more clueless than AutumnWind.

The Dolphins avg 330 yards a game in 2010

When Daboll got there last year they finished the year at 310 yards per game

That's getting worse

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764592)
My point?

That I don't see us losing every single close game we will play this year.

I'll take split of those games for a 10-6 finish.

He has us winning some close games.

5, in fact.

Remember, Cassel has NEVER won a close game against a playoff team.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan369 (Post 8764593)
Did Cassel bang your wife or something?

Essentially, yes.

The Chiefs are like my significant other. I love them unconditionally, devote a lot of time and attention to them and think about them every day.

Cassel has been ****ing my wife hard.

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:17 PM

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...650&h=440&q=75

Heres Standford Routt ladies... he's #26, you know.. the one falling down after getting beat...

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764631)

Heres Standford Routt ladies... he's #26, you know.. the one falling down after getting beat...

That's such a shock because #82 is one of the worst WR's in the league.

TLO 07-24-2012 04:18 PM

Better just start Ricky or Brady.

But first... Chronic
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5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL
You seriously think Cassel is the worst in the league? ROFL I'm not saying he's good- but the worst? You are out of your friggin mind. But reading your previous posts it's pretty clear you have no clue about football anyway.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764631)
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...650&h=440&q=75

Heres Standford Routt ladies... he's #26, you know.. the one falling down after getting beat...

Later Bowe hauled in a nice TD on his ass.

Routt is garbage and will be a huge problem on our defense this year.

TLO 07-24-2012 04:22 PM

Toad King- the most optimistic guy you'll ever meet. Like Rex Hudler on crack.

Marcellus 07-24-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764645)
Later Bowe hauled in a nice TD on his ass.

Routt is garbage and will be a huge problem on our defense this year.

Considering your sterling record on LJ, Huard, Darling etc..., your flip flopping on Cassel, Haley, Pioli etc....I don't see how you could be wrong.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:39 PM

I have never flip flopped on Cassel, Haley or Pioli.

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764631)
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...650&h=440&q=75

Heres Standford Routt ladies... he's #26, you know.. the one falling down after getting beat...

He is a good #2 corner that shouldn't have to cover #1 receivers (like Bowe)

That pic is of another Raider fail. Letting Asamoughua walk and giving Routt big money soon after and playing him at a position he isnt well suited for.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan369 (Post 8764649)
Toad King- the most optimistic guy you'll ever meet. Like Rex Hudler on crack.

reasons to be optimistic?

our franchise leadership is a bunch of turds who have never done jack in their current roles

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764695)
I have never flip flopped on Cassel, Haley or Pioli.

BALLA ASS GM

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764703)
BALLA ASS GM

You keep posting this, why?

Expressing approval in something Pioli does is in no way indicative of faith in him.

I mean, he'll get some things right. I will give him credit for those things.

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan369 (Post 8764638)
Better just start Ricky or Brady.

But first... Chronic

You seriously think Cassel is the worst in the league? ROFL I'm not saying he's good- but the worst? You are out of your friggin mind. But reading your previous posts it's pretty clear you have no clue about football anyway.

I said "probably"

Learn what the word means

I think I can say without reservation that he's definately in the bottom 5

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764698)
reasons to be optimistic?

our franchise leadership is a bunch of turds who have never done jack in their current roles

I mean this sincerely.

This post is one of your dumbest ever.

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764707)
You keep posting this, why?

Expressing approval in something Pioli does is in no way indicative of faith in him.

I mean, he'll get some things right. I will give him credit for those things.

Wow.

BigChiefFan 07-24-2012 04:51 PM

I was optimistic, until we let Carr walk without compensation, then the Bowe incident and now Poe. Add Cassel as our starting QB, the unknowing of the outcome of our injured players and I can see the team falling flat on their faces. What should have been a simple off-season has turned into a fiasco.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8764724)
I was optimistic, until we let Carr walk without compensation, then the Bowe incident and now Poe. Add Cassel as our starting QB, the unknowing of the outcome of our injured players and I can see the team falling flat on their faces. What should have been a simple off-season has turned into a fiasco.

JFC. :shake:

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764697)
He is a good #2 corner that shouldn't have to cover #1 receivers (like Bowe)

That pic is of another Raider fail. Letting Asamoughua walk and giving Routt big money soon after and playing him at a position he isnt well suited for.

You'd be wrong there..because Routt went up against many #1 WR's, even when he played opposite Aso.. If you know anything at all about Aso and why he was let go is because he never switched from the RCB, regardless if #1 lined up on the opposite side... Most CB's like Revis, Bailey etc move to whatever side their WR lines up at...Aso never did that

Raiders felt Aso wasn't worth the money

Sorta like, oh I dunno, the Chiefs letting HOF TE Tony Gonzalez walk and pro bowler and one of the best DE's in the NFL walk in Jared Allen because the hunts were cheap bastages.. and it seems it's continuing with Bowe now

Everybody and the media can bag on Al Davis all they want- at least he took care of his players and gave them good contracts paid them what they were worth instead of low balling them like the Hunts did with Allan and Gonzalez

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764713)
I mean this sincerely.

This post is one of your dumbest ever.

Facts are facts.

Pioli, Crennel and Cassel are a giant trio of fail.

So far their shining accomplishment is beating the 7-9 Seahawks.

BigChiefFan 07-24-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8764726)
JFC. :shake:

Seriously. Bowe and Carr were the main priorities-one is GONE and the other may not even play this year. If he does, he was compensated with a ONE YEAR DEAL. That's not the best option, IMO.

Add in the number one pick is UNSIGNED. First rounders should always be expected to make a contribution from day one and I'd say, that's not looking as promising, as it was a month ago.

Not delighting in the misery of the team, but realizing, they have pretty much botched the three most important tasks to do this off-season.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:58 PM

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE RICKY STANZI IN GAME 6

ACCUSES OTHERS OF DUMB POSTS

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8764736)
Seriously. Bowe and Carr were the main priorities-one is GONE and the other may not even play this year. If he does, he was compensated with a ONE YEAR DEAL. That's not the best option, IMO.

Add in the number one pick is UNSIGNED. First rounders should always be expected to make a contribution from day one and I'd say, that's not looking as promising, as it was a month ago.

Not delighting in the misery of the team, but realizing, they have pretty much botched the three most important tasks to do this off-season.

Enough is enough, huh?

I got plenty of spare pitchforks and torches to go around.

Welcome to the dark side.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764733)
Raiders felt Aso wasn't worth the money

Yeah, because they couldn't fit him under the salary cap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764733)
Sorta like, oh I dunno, the Chiefs letting HOF TE Tony Gonzalez walk and pro bowler and one of the best in the NFL walk in Jared Allen because the hunts were cheap bastages.. and it seems it's continuing with Bowe now

More dumbassery.

The Chiefs got a second round pick for Gonzalez. They received a first round pick (Brandon Albert), a third round pick (Jamal Charles) and a fifth round pick for Jared Allen.

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764733)
Everybody and the media can bag on Al Davis all they want- at least he took care of his players and gave them good contracts unlike the Hunts

And put them in utter cap hell every single year, which is why McKenzie had to cut so many quality players this year alone. He also allowed Hue Jackson to waste an enormous amount of draft picks on a QB that hasn't been worth a shit in years, including last year.

Raiders fans a dumb.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8764736)
Seriously. Bowe and Carr were the main priorities-one is GONE and the other may not even play this year. If he does, he was compensated with a ONE YEAR DEAL. That's not the best option, IMO.

First off, Brandon Carr was a FREE AGENT. Do you understand the meaning of FREE AGENT? In case you don't, it means that Carr was FREE to sign with anyone of his choosing. He chose Dallas.

Dwayne Bowe will play under the Franchise tag this year. He's not going anywhere this season. Why worry about 2013, now?

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8764736)
Add in the number one pick is UNSIGNED. First rounders should always be expected to make a contribution from day one and I'd say, that's not looking as promising, as it was a month ago.

Oh, for ****'s sake: Training camp doesn't open for TWO ****ING DAYS! Whine about it if he isn't signed and in camp FRIDAY, not ****ing TUESDAY.

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8764736)
Not delighting in the misery of the team, but realizing, they have pretty much botched the three most important tasks to do this off-season.

Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.

Chronic 07-24-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8764742)
Yeah, because they couldn't fit him under the salary cap.

Thats not true- he was playing under the franchise tag ya dummy- they could have easily reduced his cap # by signing a long term deal... you dumb


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The Chiefs got a second round pick for Gonzalez. They received a first round pick (Brandon Albert), a third round pick (Jamal Charles) and a fifth round pick for Jared Allen.
So basically ya traded Jared Allen for Charles - awesome

Branden Albert is a very average LT.. Certainly not deserving of his 17th overall selection.. whats he giving up nowadays like 10 sacks a year still?

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Which is why McKenzie had to cut so many quality players this year alone.
Quality?

Who?

Routt? - He sucks.. you'll soon find out.. wait till you seem him try and defend in the redzone... lol

Kevin Boss? He caught like 10 passes for 100 yards.. he got benched by Hue frekin Jackson because he fell asleep in the meeting room.. good luck with that stiff as well... if he dont sprain an ankle first

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He also allowed Hue Jackson to waste an enormous amount of draft picks on a QB that hasn't been worth a shit in years, including last year.

Had a better year than Cassell and played in 6 less games

The #18th overall and a late 2nd rd pick for a vet 31 year old??

2 time pro bowl and pro bowl MVP QB is enormous?

Chiefs blew a 1st rd'er on a WR that sat on the bench all year... Seems the Raiders got more outta that then the Chiefs did with Baldwin

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the Chiefs trade the #34 pick for Matt Cassell???

Isn't that like 2 picks shy of a 1st rd'er?

I do believe it is sunshine....

ChiefsCountry 07-24-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8764664)
Considering your sterling record on LJ, Huard, Darling etc..., your flip flopping on Cassel, Haley, Pioli etc....I don't see how you could be wrong.

Which is why I am smiling about him bashing Brady Quinn. ;)

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 06:19 PM

LMAO

Brady Quinn's a piece of shit who will probably never win another NFL game.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764828)
Thats not true- he was playing under the franchise tag ya dummy- they could have easily reduced his cap # by signing a long term deal... you dumb




So basically ya traded Jared Allen for Charles - awesome

Branden Albert is a very average LT.. Certainly not deserving of his 17th overall selection.. whats he giving up nowadays like 10 sacks a year still?



Quality?

Who?

Routt? - He sucks.. you'll soon find out.. wait till you seem him try and defend in the redzone... lol

Kevin Boss? He caught like 10 passes for 100 yards.. he got benched by Hue frekin Jackson because he fell asleep in the meeting room.. good luck with that stiff as well... if he dont sprain an ankle first



Had a better year than Cassell and played in 6 less games

The #18th overall and a late 2nd rd pick for a vet 31 year old??

2 time pro bowl and pro bowl MVP QB is enormous?

Chiefs blew a 1st rd'er on a WR that sat on the bench all year... Seems the Raiders got more outta that then the Chiefs did with Baldwin

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the Chiefs trade the #34 pick for Matt Cassell???

Isn't that like 2 picks shy of a 1st rd'er?

I do believe it is sunshine....

You are pretty much the dumbest mother****ing rival fan that I've ever seen.

Looks like I returned at the perfect time.

whoman69 07-24-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764507)
Ones coming off an ACL- the other a sprained foot



Some would agree with the poison being when Al was alive.. however this is a new era- Al Davis has past- Reggie McKenzie- the ex-Director of player personel for the Packers is now GM- Some have said he's the best young talent evaluator in the league right now...

But to Al's credit

Gruden was an unknown when he went to the Raiders, so was HOF John Madden, so was Tom Flores who won 2 SB's as a Raiders coach

Al Davis won 3 SB's.. the Hunts won 1 back when there were like 8 teams and people were still dying of polio

Romeo was 24-40 as a HC- One is unproven (Dennis Allen) the other one is a proven loser (Romeo Crennel)




The Dolphins got worse



Hmm.. I dunno bou't that...

That OL avg age is 24
RB McFadden- 24
RB - Taiwan Jones - 23
RB - Mike Goodson - 25
FB - Marcel Reece - 27
WR Jacoby Ford - 24
WR Denarious Moore -23
WR- Heyward -Bey -25
WR- Juron Criner - 22
QB - Palmer - 32
TE David Ausberry - 23
TE Brandon Meyers - 26

DE- Matt Shuagnessy - 25
DE - Lamarr Houston - 25
DT - Tommy Kelly - 30
DT-Richard Seymour -32
DT- Desmond Bryant - 26
DT - Christo Biliukidi - 23
DT - Travis Ivy - 25
OLB Phillip Wheeler - 27
MLB - Ro McClain - 23
OLB Aaron Curry - 26
LB - Travis Goethel - 25
LB - Miles Burris - 24
CB - Demarcus Van Dyke - 23
CB - Chemdi Chekwa - 23
CB - Ron Bartell - 29
CB - Shawntee Spencer - 30
CB - Conroy Black - 23
S - Tyvone Branch - 25
S- Michael Huff - 28
S -Matt Giodano - 29
S -Aaron Henry - 23
S- Brandon Underwood - 26


The above proves 1 thing

You're a confused individual




Yeah, okay.....

McFadden had a Lisfranc injury, not a sprained foot. You don't miss 9 games with a sprain. How many seasons has he been injured? The Chiefs are talking about getting 275 touches out of Charles. Charles at least has someone proven to share carries with. If brokedick goes down again...or should I say when...

The Raiders are on their 7th coach in the last 10 years. I think Al lost the magic touch. He didn't realize he's actually been dead that whole time.

The Chiefs don't have one player that is 30 years old.

BossChief 07-24-2012 07:19 PM

The Chiefs have 6 players that are 30.

Chronic 07-24-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8764884)
You are pretty much the dumbest mother****ing rival fan that I've ever seen.

Looks like I returned at the perfect time.


That's usually the response one can expect from someone that brings absolute dogsh*t to a thread-

Good job man

BossChief 07-24-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764967)
That's usually the response one can expect from someone that brings absolute dogsh*t to a thread-

Good job man

Go fist your grandmother.


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