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You're right on the 12 men on the field. They also had 10 men on the field and had to call a timeout. Against Oakland, they had 2 blocked field goals because they didn't make an adjustment, so the same exact thing happened. Though on each of these things, I think that's moreso on Hoffman than on Romeo. |
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I think that Romeo is among the best Defensive Coordinators of the past two decades. He constantly puts his players in a position to "win" each series and I think that we can all say that we've seen obvious growth in older players such as DJ and in younger players such as Hali, Dorsey and even Jackson. As for Daboll, I didn't follow Cleveland when both he and Romeo were in that dreadful organization. But I do know that no one has had any success since Bill Belichick's 1994 season. It's been a complete and utter black hole since returning to the league and Mike Holmgren, who had Super Bowl success in Green Bay and Seattle, is spinning his wheels in the mud in Cleveland. Daboll took over a bad Miami offense last year and without the help of OTA's and Mini-camps, created an offense about six games in that scored something like 25 points a game. He made Reggie Bush a complete running back for the first time in career and made guys like Anthony Fasano and Matt Moore appear respectable. I'd like to think that with the Chiefs offensive line and weapons, he'll be able to pick up where he left off in Miami and oversee an extremely potent offense, despite Cassel's shortcomings. I am making no predictions at this point in time but I am hopeful that this young teams takes a huge leap on offense and the defense becomes a top NFL unit with the return of Eric Berry, the continued maturation of Dorsey, Jackson, Houston, Belcher and Lewis, along with the additions of Poe and Menzie. The future is brighter than it's been in decades, IMO. |
Even if he won a couple games, the shine came off Romeo as soon as he showed he was cool with coaching a team led by Matt Cassel.
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And the Dwayne Bowe singlehandedly loses games because he drops too many passes. |
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If I had a choice of grabbing a beer with Haley or Pioli it would be Haley hands down. While neither are an angel in the situation I'm sure I'm pretty sure one of them isn't hiding behind upper management and bureaucracy.
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While I have been extremely vocal in my dislike for many of Pioli's decisions, this roster is among the best and youngest in decades. Outside of the QB situation, he's done a fine job. |
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Romeo is smart enough to know he isn't winning shit with Cassel. He's not gonna turn down a nice raise, though. It's kind of like a guy getting promoted to manager and running a restaurant that's going under. Why would he turn down the promotion? |
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As a head coach... he had some problems in Cleveland. You're right that maybe in his second stint, he fixes them. But we can't ignore that they happened. He has to be a better game manager in KC and he has to shed the reputation that he is soft on his players in a head coaching capacity. I hope he fixes those and I'm rooting for him to fix them. But for now, they're areas of concern for me until I see him prove those are things of the past. |
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I just hope that Cleveland really is/was the blackhole for successful coaches.
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The football gods smiled on us that day. |
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I'm ignoring it. It's that simple. I'll take Romeo at face value in KC. If he's great, awesome. If he's average, that's too bad. If he's awful, the Chiefs will hire someone else. But what happened in Cleveland, CLEVELAND of all places, should not be the sole barometer of the job he'll do in Kansas City. It shouldn't even factor in because it's the real Black Hole of the NFL. |
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FTR, I'm willing to give Romeo a chance. |
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That's a nice raise. Nice fat check to throw in the retirement fund right before retirement. |
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I really can't figure out Pioli's end game at QB. It's difficult to have any kind of feel for Stanzi because he missed OTA's and Mini Camps in 2011, so he was certainly behind the curve entering training camp. And I'm quite glad that he wasn't thrown to the wolves last year, unprepared, because that could have shattered his confidence, although a more suitable backup should have been signed. Pioli should be ashamed to have had Tyler Palko as his starting QB. |
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:D All joking aside, I think Romeo earned a chance to coach this team in 2012. The Chiefs were one or two plays from winning the division against Oakland. If Haley hadn't started Palko for four weeks, I think the Chiefs would have won the division with Romeo. Anyway, I'll judge him on his head coaching performance in KC, not on his performance in Cleveland. And quite honestly, I saw what I liked when he took over and hope that he can continue to move this team forward. |
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He has a very high opinion of goody two-shoes Cassel, and a low opinion of a drunkard like Orton. Pioli is all about the intangibles. That's why he loooooves team captains! |
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You didn’t want to go somewhere where you had a chance of competing to be the starter? "Well I’ve kind of been in that situation the last three or four years just going into camp and competing. To be honest with you I don’t think that situation has worked for me. I don’t think it’s worked out for the club. I think you need to know who your guy is going to be going right into the season and backing that guy. I don’t think that’s been the situation that I have been in and I really didn’t want to get into that situation again. I’m fine with knowing my role as the backup on this team. I am going to be the best backup I can and support Tony [Romo] any way that I can." ------------------ Yeah, it really sounds like he wanted a starting job in the NFL. :rolleyes: |
Sounds to me like he wanted the Chiefs to pay him starter money to be the starter, and didn't want any part of competing with another piece of shit QB.
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Pioli will regret the decision. But there's no doubt his ego couldn't take being told what was up by Kyle Orton. |
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For starters 11 penalties for 88 yards for what all intents and purposes was a playoff game. 2 blocked field goals. The 2nd one we didn't adjust despite Seymor getting penetration all day IIRC he almost blocked another one. Going for it on 4th down in our own territory on 4th down with plenty of time left in the game. The overall game was just sloppy go back and read the game day thread. Some of the very knowledgeable posters said that was one of the sloppiest coached games they've ever seen. You mentioned Orton threw for 300 yards and this important to point out: Cassel doesn't have the ability to throw for 300 yards in a game. Crennel barely won those 2 games and easily would have gone 0-3 with Cassel. He was hired not because he gives the team the best chance at winning a super bowl. He was hired because he's familiar with Scott Pioli who didn't want to take a chance because another losing season or 2 and he's canned. The overall talent might be better but as far as the QB position it's just as bad if not worse than it was in Cleveland. |
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Pioli has done a fine job of positioning a toaster next to his bathtub. |
Dane vs toad = batman vs joker. An unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
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Some men just want to watch Chiefsplanet burn.
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Name ONE season in Cleveland where Crennel had a defense as talented as the Chiefs. Cleveland has NEVER had perimeter weapons like Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, Moeaki and Boss simultaneously, along with a running back like Charles. The Browns and Chiefs may be equal in terms of QB suckage during Crennel's tenure, but that's about the only parallel that should be drawn. |
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Either that, or he doesn't give a shit about being a starter or competing for a starting gig, in which case, **** Kyle Orton. |
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There are 32 of these jobs in the world. Who wouldn't want to be an NFL starting QB? And even if it was the case, sign Orton, bench Cassel, and tell Kyle to deal with it. What's he gonna do? Throw games? |
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It sounds to me like he was sick of competing against Tebow and didn't want to compete against Cassel. So, he took the next best thing which was to back up Romo and collect a fat paycheck. I can't blame him for that but I'm glad he's not on the Chiefs roster. |
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2. Hoffman was a scape goat. Is it a coincidence that Clevelands special teams sucked when Crennel was the coach? 3. Find a post where I said it was great that Haley went for it on 4th downs. I believe I talked about this in another thread where I said Haley was a moron for going for it on 4th down on the 28 yard line against Denver. 4. Laughable? The QB position is the most important position. Crennel sucked in Cleveland because of bad coaching and shitty QB's how is that different here? |
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I said it in 2009 and I'll say it again now: It was a mistake to cut Connor Barth in favor of Succop. Succop was Pioli's 7th round draft choice and he's hardly been special. Meanwhile, Barth just signed a 4 year, $13 million dollar deal in Tampa. Quote:
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There's talk that Orton didn't want to compete but that doesn't make sense.
When has Pioli ever paid a backup QB (besides Cassel) 5 million dollars per year? |
he probably thought the odds were stacked against him in KC to even compete. If you think he would ever have a chance to legit beat out Cassel no matter how he looked in practice or what media said in training camp, he would have still been the backup opening day anyway, just like with Tebow.
So he took more money to do the same thing in Dallas behind an actual QB that is better than him, so his role looks more legitimate, because I'm sure to Kyle Orton, he knows and thinks he's better than Cassel. |
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If Cassel is hurt or is absolutely abysmal, I expect to see Quinn for at least a few games, if not the rest of the season. Unless Stanzi makes an enormous jump this year, I'm betting he won't be a contender for the starting job until 2013. |
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Read what I said man. Cleveland had shit for QB AND CRENNEL WAS A SHITTY COACH. Awesome. He fired members of Haley's staff and hired Brian Daboll who's offenses have sucked and the Rams ST coach whos special teams sucked. Like I said these aren't improvements. |
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"Well I’ve kind of been in that situation the last three or four years just going into camp and competing. To be honest with you I don’t think that situation has worked for me. I don’t think it’s worked out for the club. I think you need to know who your guy is going to be going right into the season and backing that guy. I don’t think that’s been the situation that I have been in and I really didn’t want to get into that situation again. I’m fine with knowing my role as the backup on this team." http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...llas-tony-romo |
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Extending Succop was a mistake, IMO. He's nothing more than average, at best. |
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Peter King on the signing of Orton:
I'm amazed that the Dallas Cowboys paid Orton -- who I consider the best of the available backups, and not by a small amount -- a $5 million signing bonus for a five-year deal that will likely void to three years. I understand sleeping better at night, which the Cowboys will do now that they have maybe the best backup quarterback in football as insurance for Tony Romo instead of the iffy Stephen McGee. But I've never heard of paying a guy you hope will never play a $5 million signing bonus. |
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Everyone knows his history with Tebow. Clearly, he didn't want to fight for a starting job with Cassel and decided to take the backup job in Dallas, plain and simple. There's nothing more to it. He was tired of competing for a starting job and took the next best thing: A backup job with no competition. |
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BTW Dane, I've found a quote that contradicts the one you posted.
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...rever/10972556 Tony Romo doesn't need to be looking over his shoulder, no matter what Kyle Orton says. Orton, the Cowboys' new backup quarterback, caused a minor stir during OTA's by saying he's not content being second string. "I feel like I've played good ball in this league," Orton told the Cowboys' official web site. "I feel I've got a lot of good ball left in me. I don't see this as committing myself to be the backup. I'm just committing myself to be a part of the team. |
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I don't like Succop. Never have. I don't think he's a clutch guy. |
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"Tony's the man, you know? There ain't no doubt about it," Orton said to dallascowboys.com. "He's played great football. He's a great quarterback. So I'm excited. It's really the first time I've been around another veteran in my career. I've done a lot of learning with young guys in the room. I can still learn a lot about football, and hopefully I can help him out in any way I can." That hardly sounds like a guy who is going to push Romo for the starting job. |
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You know damn well the competition would have been lopsided in Cassel's favor just look at every other year he's been here theres never been a real backup QB on the team. That was done by design. |
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The reality is that Orton signed a contract to be a backup in Dallas. He didn't sign with Jacksonville or Miami or any other QB needy team. He didn't wait until Training Camp or PreSeason for a potential starting job due to injury. He signed to be a back up. That's all you need to know about Kyle Orton. |
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Yeah he signed because he got a 5 million dollar signing bonus. |
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Kyle Orton did not want to be a starting QB. Period. End of story. Otherwise, he would have waited for a better opportunity. There was no reason for him to sign a deal immediately after free agency opened unless he had made the decision to be a backup. |
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He was offered a 5 million dollar signing bonus. Post a link showing where another team offered him that much money. Miami's owner didn't want him. They had a deal in place last year to trade for him Stephen Ross didn't want to pay him. Jacksonville drafted a QB in the first round last year. Where was he going to be the starter at? |
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IF Kyle Orton WANTED to be a STARTING QB, he would have competed with Cassel or WAITED until a STARTING POSITION was available elsewhere. PERIOD. His actions PROVE that he was CONTENT with being a backup. NO ONE FORCED HIM TO SIGN A CONTRACT. Is it just me or did you somehow become dumber in my absence? |
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There was no competition you moron. Matt Cassel is one of the highest paid Chiefs for a reason. Scott Pioli for whatever reason believes he's a good QB. The Chiefs were so serious about bringing in competition they signed Brady Quinn ROFL and last year they brought in Tyler Palko. Is it just me or did you come back as an even bigger pussy? |
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