It's not funny. You can't even get your pic right. You suck ass.

So...who missed practice today?
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If I could post video, I would but I don't have enough posts yet.

We sucks DJ's dick. You suck Dexter McCluster's and Brandon Siler's dick.

I'll take DJ's dick, thank you very much.

a video of what

Brandon Siler being terrible. Because that's what he is. A special teams role player, nothing more nothing less. He can step in a pinch but if you are relying on him for an entire season to stop the run it will be like the Dick Vermeil Chiefs defense all over again.

Yes...were 'sucking' the balls of one of the most under rated players in the NFL...

Dude gets no props, hardly at all for how much of a bad ass he is....and then has to suffer idiots like you saying Siler is better than him at tackling...

What is your evidence? Let's see some game tape..I want to see the inner workings of your shit for brain mind break this down in detail....

Please, wise one, show us the flaws in DJ's tackling technique...

I'm sure you have a lot of experience being tackled at gay strip clubs for being too rowdy.

was this the video BlackBob?

Brandon Siler getting straight owned but I'll give you credit still makes the stop. Then the very next play gets absolutely blown the **** up as Ray Rice runs untouched. Yeah great tackling. It's not great tackling if the guy get's washed out of more ****ing plays than New Jersey beaches.

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Damn, two threads with pistol whipping going on...

BlackBob is getting owned hard now. We just spread eagled him over a pinball machine and raped him like Jodie Foster in The Accused.

I STILL BELIEVE IN HEROES

http://9e3k.com/wp/wp-content/upload...vengers009.gif

LOL. Bob's anus is a size 12 right now.

That's what I was wondering.

Oldies but goodies

The Tackle

By Matt Shervington on June 23, 2011

The tackle is perhaps the most annoying statistic in football. Not because it isn’t useful but because it is so open to interpretation. For this reason, although the tackle is tracked by the NFL and its various teams, it is not considered an official statistic.

Despite the fact that the tackle isn’t official fans often cite the tackle as a premier method to interpret how good 4-3 linebackers or strong safeties are. If a player has a high tackle total he is usually regarded as a “sideline-to-sideline” player.

Unfortunately, despite the forthcoming rambling, the tackle is probably a good indicator of these player’s abilities. The primary issue, however, is that a tackle as a simple number attributes the same value to every single tackle a player makes. Attributing the same value to a tackle that prevents a first down on third and three to a tackle that comes after a 25-yard run isn’t very fair.

However, our friends at Football Outsiders have long concocted an excellent way to objectively view the tackle to determine which ones are “better” than others.

Football Outsiders have given us the metrics of “Stops”, “Defeats”, “Yards per Play” and “Stop Rate”

The “Stop” is defined as a play in which a defensive player prevents the offense from gaining 45 percent of needed yards on first down, 60 percent on second down and 100 percent of the needed yards on third and fourth down. While passes defensed, interceptions and forced fumbles are included in this metric the overall numbers still remain reminiscent of tackles.

The “Defeat” is defined as a play by a defender that prevents the offense from earning a first down on third or fourth down. Additionally a defeat can be defined as a play behind the line of scrimmage or a forced turnover.

The “Yards per Play” metric is defined as the average distance at which a defender makes a tackle, forced fumble, interception or stuff. Football Outsiders has even done the fans the convenience of separating yards per play against the run and yards per play against the pass as well as when the two are combined.

Finally, the “Stop Rate” metric delivers the percentage of tackles, stuffs, sacks, forced fumbles and interceptions that qualified as a stop out of their total plays.

Using the stop metric alongside the defeat metric is a good way to further elaborate on tackles. Together they can tell you how many of the player’s tackles weren’t simply “garbage” or “cleanup” tackles. This does not mean that all tackles that weren’t stops or defeats were meaningless but these metrics do give a better look into when and where tackles occurred when combined with the yards per play metric.

Who should be seen as the superior player?

A guy who had 100 tackles with an average yards per play of 3.5 with 66 stops and 20 defeats or a guy who had 130 tackles but an average yards per play of 6.0 with 62 stops and 8 defeats?

The tackle totals tell you that the latter player is superior but are his 30 extra tackles really worth the 2.5 extra yards he gives up per play?

Now obviously other factors must be placed into context such as the system that a guy plays in or where on the field the tackles were made despite distance. If you want to further do some research on a player and see if they are truly a “sideline-to-sideline” tackle you can also check out their player splits page on Sports Illustrated.

For all of the aforementioned metrics you can search Football Outsiders with the player’s name to find their respective player page.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...et-them/page/2

Black Bob isn't down for the count just yet.

Look at that sonsabitch throwing haymakers out of left field.

I haven't even started.:evil:

yea but none of us give a shit about going to some crappy Chargers forum to dig up posts from 2 years ago about how awful Siler is from their fan base since that is basically what BlackBoob did with DJ. Posts from ****ing 2009 or prior. Yeah I guess so.

Maybe one of the Chargers fans that post on here can just sum it up for us

so how many tackles did Siler have last year to convince your dumb ass he's better than the Chiefs franchise record holder?

LMAO

Really dipshit?

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/pla...errick-johnson

now it's over

call me the day Brandon Siler is 2nd in the NFL in stop rate. the year 2000never

Huh?

:)

Like a hotdog down the Large Hadron Collider.

Black bob has gotten smashed in every thread he posts in that he gives us his football insight.


Stick to your introduction thread...
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Yep. You're a useless reerun.

Read the article on tackles dumbass

And I think most of those quotes you dug up were from quite a while ago...
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It's math. Can you do math?

Hey dumbass.....you quoted a worthless website like Bleacher Report. I quoted a reliable website like PFF and Football Outsiders.

Go **** yourself. You've been owned......again.

LOL LMAO

Bleacher report......by dumb fans for dumb fans.

Who wants to make a serious ****ing bet?

If DJ plays this week, I will leave this board for a year if he doesn't miss a single tackle.

If he does miss a tackle, any takers will stay out of Chiefs Planet for a year.

Put your money where your mouths are pussies. Put up or shut up.

If I am so far off, let's go mother ****ers.

Black bob I am disappoint.
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He's not getting smashed in this thread.

you are asking if our best player who gets the most snaps on defense and the most chances around the ball is going to be 100 percent in tackles, while injured.

Not even Patrick Willis or Ray Lewis can ****ing do that. No LBer can do that.

we're really having to convince someone that siler is just a scrub backup....when he is actually DJ's scrub backup?

lol. Do you actually think someone is going to make that bet.
#1 he would be coming off an injury.
#2 everyone you are arguing with and thinks you are an idiot (which is everyone reading this) had been here a long time and is part of the community, would not be fair to send them off for a year over a bet with a guy here all of two minutes and has the absolute worst takes I have ever seen.
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LMAO


you've been trained so hard....maybe you should crawl back to WPI and put your panties back on...

**** you, you are pussing out. Put up or shut the **** up. Don't even say a good damn word. If you people want to compare him to Ray Ray then injuries don't mean jack shit you ****ing homers. If he's elite then he's elite.

Who is going to play?

Cassel's condom appears...

Yes he is.


Siler isn't a better tackler, toss place is far from homer central.
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Come on man. Bet me. Man up and bet me.

****ing OWNED

/thread

Siler is a better tackler. If you watch, you can see it. BET ME...

Come up with a bet that makes sense.

LMAO

any chiefs fan worth a shit wouldn't bring up ray in a thread like this.

We all hard him crying like a bitch when waters kicked his shit in
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Bet me pussy. Bet me Pestilence. The article is right. Tackles are the most worthless stat.

Did you miss the part where I compared DJ to Lewis?

DJ: 10 missed tackles
Lewis: 7 missed tackles.

And DJ played 200 more snaps.

Where is the ACTUAL EVIDENCE that Siler is a better tackler than DJ? It's sure not in missed tackle stats...so please, enlighten us.

DJ could sit on the bench and be better than Siler

because Siler is also sitting on the bench...LMAO


you're starting to remind me of the guardian...the rare combination of stupid and dumb all wrapped up in a chuck norris t-shirt

No kidding dude. There are some serious homers here comparing DJ to Lewis.

Who do you see him tackle on the bench?
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Oh yeah, homers...

http://i.imgur.com/EtrIN.jpg

My dick is getting raw, anyone want to take over?

I agree that tackles in and of themselves arent that meaningful, but did you read the article/stats that pestilence showed you?

Lol, that's not very homer. Ray has lost a step.

Stop and actually think about what you are saying.

At this point DJ IS better than ray Lewis.
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Derrick Johnson had 30 tackles and 4 forced fumbles


















IN ONE GAME in High School

Does that mean Siler is better than Lewis too?

Derrick Johnson won the Dick Butkus trophy and the Bronco Nagursky trophy

Which one did siler win?

transitive property for the win

When people are posting that Siler misses 1 tackle in every 141 attempts and Johnson misses 1 tackle every 104 attempts, BlackBob is not the one getting smashed.

Also, tackle numbers along don't prove you're a good tackler. They just prove you're prolific. Those aren't necessarily the same thing.

I agree that his homer argument is pretty ****ing stupid, though.

How many pro bowls does siler have?

Other things Siler is better at than DJ:

Tetris
sitting on benches
blowing out achilles
making it rain at Hooters
signing vet minimum contracts
impressing morons
folding laundry
picking up gum wrappers at arrowhead
getting cut
carrying DJ's helmet

Siler's achilles weeps at this thread.

Yeah but he still misses tackles. I never said he shouldn't be on the field. I just said Siler is a better tackler. That means nothing to me.

Siler played in the SEC where everyone can tackle.

Then DJ shouldn't miss more tackles by their logic right? Then why did he?

Uh, do you even realize what 141 vs 104 means?

It means Brandon Siler misses one tackle every two games, more or less, if he was a starter.

It means Derrick Johnson misses one tackle every two games.

It's a negligible difference.

And since Brandon Siler hasn't played more than 387 snaps in a season the last FOUR ****ING YEARS, using missed tackle stats to elevate him over DJ, who plays 1,000 snaps a year, is pretty clueless.

It's worse than that. He's Belcher's scrub backup.

Did you see what pestilence posted?

Its all about the stops....

siler is a backup for a reason. He isn't too good.

I know you probably don't see all the games, but this is a case of the numbers not relating the truth, IMO.

DJ gets to a lot of players and gets his hands on them a lot when a guy like siler would have never gotten close...
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DJ is a better player. He just isn't as good of a tackler. If you think he is, then bet me.

He didnt -

they both had about 1 missed tackle for every 10 they made

DJ missed three more tackles than ray in 200 more attempts.

Ray was worse last year, I don't see how you can debate that...
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Black Knob polisher is either amazingly dense, or this is the most successful troll performance ever.

NO SHIT. I have been saying that the whole time. McGraw was a better tackler than Lewis but, guess what? I wanted Lewis to start.

It is not uncommon for back ups to be better at fundamentals than starters. NFL starters are generally play makers. That's what makes them the best of the best.

Where is the evidence that Brandon Siler is a good tackler?