He was not good against Buffalo.

Not at all.

His fans are clinging to one game at this moment.

One. Game.

If he's out for the year, mark him down as a bust. Enough.

Didn't he have a pretty decent YPC as a RB last year too, and also has made some big plays returning kicks? I was mentally checked out most of last year. I really don't think he's a bad player at all.

No it isn't. You guys are discounting Dex's yards because they didn't all happen as a true WR. Who cares how he gets them. For receiving yards the two are basically equal. But oh no! Dexter didn't start the game listed as a WR! That is such a stupid argument.

As a WR Tate has been better because that is all he does. As a football player whose, get this, job it is to get yards and move the chains Dexter has been better.

I love the scrambling that it is somehow implied he ment "as a WR" when he said Tate was better because that is the only way to save face. ROFL

The funniest thing about all of this is that McCluster, in his first year as a "true" WR has more catches and more yards than Tate, even with that phony TD yesterday. All Tate has on Dex is the one actual TD.

I'm not a fan really, but I don't think he's bad like you do. I don't think we can label him a pure bust if he's out for the year either. He's still young. Not a great player and not who I wanted with that 2nd round pick, but he has his moments.

Well, he doesn't play RB anymore.

So it's kind of relevant.

He needs to do WR things, not RB things.

If you can't honestly see the difference...you're being obtuse.

Let's see:

3 years.

Two injuries basically rendering him useless for large parts of two of those three years.

A handful of games where he did anything worth a shit.

Sounds like a bust.

What did you just call me?

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Tate's been considered a borderline bust so far. He's frequently dinged up and lost significant playing time to a UDFA (Baldwin) last year.

So far this year, it appears that he might be finally "getting it" but so far, he's JAG.

The only thing I don't like about McCluster is that you have to take a more important (IMO) player off the field to put him in.

ROFL

Tate isn't even a better WR ROFL
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Twas toungue in cheek man, I respect your posts.

Quietly pleased with Baldwin's progress.

Baby steps for Pioli's first rounder are better than nothing.

Man, I wish I wouldve picked a better thread on russell wilson instead of one on dexter mcluster...

This whole DMC/Taint discussion is ironic.

Reminds me a lot of the Cassel/Sanchez debate.

Shit is shit.

All four suck.

Pretty much but they will defend thier opposing team's draft crushes to the death!!!

There's no debate. One wins playoff games, and the other is a giant bag o' FAIL.

Shit is still shit.

Meh. Not lately.

Sanchez is ****ing terrible, just like Cassel is. Not sure who is better because they both suck.

I would be getting raked right now, I wanted Sanchez over Cassel...

I was ripped before the draft for suggesting we take a round 6 flier on him. Guess a brokedick project tweener lineman is a higher value to the Chiefs.

NO one is more bag o' shit than Captain Checkdown Casshole.

Live with it.

Same results most likely either way, although I don't think Sanchez could have had the 2010 season that Cassel did.

Well you're a stubborn piece of shit, so I wouldn't expect you to look at things objectively. They are both awful QBs.

Then it's a dumb argument on your end.

Seeing as how THEY'RE THE SAME ****ING PLAYER.

Oh God, you mean that GREAT season where he didn't do jack ****ing shit, and backed his ass up in to a vacated Pro Bowl spot?!

Just ****ing quit.

Quit right now while you're still somewhat ahead.

The guy can barely complete 50 percent of his passes. That is VERY sad in today's NFL.

Are you ****ing reeruned?

How you're getting this is completely beyond me.

Quit being ****ing reeruned. We have enough idiots around here to fill that role.

Either way, the choice was wrong. Cassel trade or drafting Sanchez was a fail/fail option.

Choke on a cock, dipshit.

I guess we'll never really know since we opted for a complete ****ing waste of skin and time, yes.

No doubt. Although, they basically needed to do one or the other at the time though. Either option sucked and would have provided similar results, but you can't go into that season with Thigpen as your QB.

This.

Good luck getting that through the Sanchez ball washers thick ****ing heads.

Why didn't Sanchez get to back into that pro bowl spot?

He was too ****ing busy going to the playoffs.

FMP

Yeah, I'm sure that's why. No one ever plays in the pro bowl if they made the playoffs. Sanchez really carries that team.

Yes, let's assuage our consciences by putting out Cassel's ginormous, life-changing, one time trip to the useless Pro Bowl instead of giving a young QB a shot.

Great thinking, TF.

Saw him on the sideline waving that FG wide for Miami. Guy is good.

Guy can throw more than 5 yards?

Upgrade!

The only thing Sanchez has over Cassel at this point is he's younger and so there's slim hope he'll grow into the position. On that basis, I'd rather have Sanchez. HOWEVER. Sanchez has not improved year to year at the rate other young QBs have, not even close. It's my opinion that what you see is what you get with him.

They are both awful. I'm really not sure why you're so dug in on this one. Both QBs suck. Neither would have been a difference maker over the last few years or in the future. Flip a coin.

Mark Sanchez leaves the field so Tim Tebow can play.

That should tell you all you need to know about Sanchez.
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The downside though is that it may make a team hesitant to pull the plug on the younger, former 1st round pick. At least with Cassel, a reasonable GM would make the switch already or at least after this year.

I would have paid a pretty penny to watch all of these Sanchez douchebags eat shit IF KC had taken him first round -- and he wound up playing like GREAT football like he has since he has been drafted.

LMAO

If Sanchez was Pioli's boy, he'd be getting the same kid glove treatment.

Cassel went to the playoffs too. ROFL

I see some things haven't changed. You are still dumb as shit without the drafturbators to lapdog.

DeathCarlDipshit.

Cassel was physically present, that's about it.

****ing reerun.

On the contrary, his stats have gotten better every year as the talent around him has gotten weaker. He seems to have regressed this year. Some QBs make the players around them better. Sanchez does not.

He's improved incrementally. He has not improved at the same rate as most other young QBs, at the risk of repeating myself.

His stats got better because of the simple fact he threw the ball more. It's not because he got better or anything. His QB rating is consistently terrible, and his completion percentage has been worse than Cassel's every single season.

Sad but true...

But one cost us part of a second round pick (550 points minus any Vrabel value) while the other would have cost us 2,200 points). Given that they both suck, at least the Cassel option only cost us a quarter of what Sanchez would have.

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He won a ****ing play off game. There is absolutely NO ****ing debate as to who the better QB is. Period.

That's like saying turd tastes better with chocolate sprinkles on it.

Sir, it would incrementally help the turd-taste and there is no denying that.

lots of people didnt like Wilson because of his height but he's a smart QB from the neck up and that makes up for his height.

Penz? Is that you?

If Geno turns out better, not a **** will be given about him.

Napoleon Dynamite voice:

"Maaaaan, I wish we had a nother retread"! "He's got skills"!

Anyone pining for Alex Smith should be gelded.

See people are wishing we had Russeell Wilson when all we need to do is draft Geno Smith and Boom Ch KA!

Geno Smith has the upside to go with being #1 in the draft.

Russell's got a tiny dick.

We're making the right decision by holding out for Geno

While I would have loved Wilson, I definitely think Geno>Wilson.

This is what I think too. Hell he could be better than RGIII staying healthy long term. RGIII is taking some heavy hits this year. Geno is bigger and stronger I think more durable. We need a star QB that could be Geno Smith. We would make waves.

I was advocating before the draft, but evidently the Chiefs organization doesn't hold my opinion in high esteem...

Geno isn't going to do all that running and gunning/Vick/RGIII-shit, and that's just fine.
What he IS going to do, is step up in the pocket and make positive yardage 9 out of 10 times that he takes a snap.
And, he'll do the Greatest Thing Of All:

Prove to Zach once and for all that 40 yard passes do IN FACT ****ing exist and can be completed.

Regularly.

And, don't forget; Chocolate Penii Power for the Chiefs as well.

I don't want a QB who is too short to ride the mamba at WOF.

Holy hell this is reeruned. Geno Smith is not and will never be RGIII.

RGIII is already a top 10 QB. Geno is not on his level.

Geno has not played a snap in the NFL yet, so how the **** would you even BEGIN to know this?

Exactly. You're comparing an unproven college QB to a QB who is..

3rd in QB rating
Tied for 2nd fewest INT's
6th in completion %
Top 10 in rushing TD's (this includes all RB's)

All as a ****ing rookie.

Goddamn people. I think Geno is going to be a good QB, but RGIII is on a whole other level than him.

There is not one thing Geno does that RG3 can't do better.

At this time LAST YEAR, many of the same things were being said about RG3. Now, with the benefit of HINDSIGHT, RG3 has exceeded almost EVERYONE'S expectations.

All of those rankings are impressive, but NOBODY thought he'd be THIS good at this time LAST YEAR.

And it's not a ratings ploy that ESPN was talking about how long RG3's career might last.

He takes too many hits and he's not THAT big.

I think it was expected for him to be great after he owned OU. His hype train went off the roof.

I haven't seen a player as much hype as RG3 in a long long time. He had so much hype that Luck was in his shadows. All the attention was on RG3.

ROFL