And let's say you're McDaniels (who I actually think can be a good HC) - would you rather be the OC of a Brady led team and the almost guaranteed successor to BB in New England...or a coffee boy for Pioli.

McDaniels will not get another shot at coaching if he fails a 2nd time. He's still a very young man and can't afford to become a coaching pariah by the time he's 40.

He would be far FAR smarter to simply wait until BB retires and 3-4 years.

yeah, it would really suck to have him. Jesus Christ.

This sums up the "talent" of the Browns quite nicely.

And yet Belechick won a playoff game with all of that more recently than we have in KC. He made something out of nothing there meaning he is more than just Tom Brady. Not saying Brady isn't responsible for the majority of his success because he is. Brady is not all of his success though.

Tannehill? Sure. RGIII? Yes, please. I'd take Christian Ponder.

We also could have had Dalton, but getting a #2 WR for our crap QB was more important.

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He's a project, not a lock like RGIII or Luck

Too risky. Stanzi was the safer choice.

The Chiefs under Pioli have finished dead last in the division 2 out of 3 years and it's likely going to be 3 out of 4. He's failed to hire good head coaches. He's failed to acquire a franchise QB, hell or even a good QB. He's failed to add depth at corner, safety and the offensive line. He's spent far too many picks on the least important position in a 3-4.

He's drafted Tyson Jackson when there's a shit ton of stud players that were taken after him. He trades up for Moeaki, who never was healthy in college when Jimmy Graham was available. He trades Tony Gonzalez and drafts Javier Arenas.

Why is it a bad thing if the Clark cleans house again?

The best players on this team were here prior to his arrival.

We dont' even have that. You're the kind of fan Clark loves. Averse to risk, loves retread castoffs, scared of making a play.

Herm Edwards won two playoff games in New York.

Big ****ing deal.

When all is said and done Tannehill is going to have a very good pro career. He's not a super stud, but he's doing a lot of good for a really bad offense that has virtually nothing around him.

You put Tannehill here, with the weapons that Cassel can't use at WR, and this team is 100% different.

I'm just willing to debate my honest opinion of the Chiefs situation.

Again, I thin Pioli will be a better GM now that the grace period is over.

If I were Clark I'd extend him two years, but make clear that he has to get results on the field.

He has shown enough to not "LMFAO". You don't know what you are talking about.

And Cassel's what?

Why would he be better? where is the evidence? The guy has screwed up 3 major decisions so far. Sure, sign me up for 2 more years of it! LMAO

I'm not scared at all.

Shit if I was the GM, I'd be working the phones to trade Bowe to a needy team, but that would only make me more unpopular tonight. :)

Exactly. We have nowhere to go but up. Losing Pioli won't suddenly turn us from SB contender to bottom dweller. We are already there because of him.

You wont get results with Pioli. HC sucks and cant manage certain situations. He's awful. I dont trust Pioli to draft a QB

A franchise killing shit machine.

Maybe you are...Clark....

Herm has not won anywhere else. Belechick has won in both Cleveland and NE. Who knows how the 1995 season would have played out if not for the turmoil of moving the team.

a fu@king reerun.

I'm not endorsing the play of this team for the last three years. I'm not endorsing Matt Cassel. My point it that a complete overhaul sets us back instead of moving us forward.

You're being too hard, even mean, on Pioli. Give him another chance. He deserves an extension! /hoover

Bullshit

so take this with a grain of salt but my good friend was in the same suite as denny thum at the ravens game and he told me tonight that denny said to him that pioli already has a contract extension.........................****

Sets us back from what? Being perhaps the shittiest team in the NFL?

So you don't want to can the GM, but you want to trade the best receiver this team has had in the last 15 years?

You're better than this.

:spock:

Keeping Pioli either a) continues a backward regression or b) maintains current mediocrity. There is no moving forward with Pioli.

You can't. He can't sign a long term deal until the year is over.

This cant be real life can it?

Getting the team in position is the GM's job.

Sets us back from what? We are on pace to finish dead last in the AFC West for the third season in four years.

You can't go lower when your ass is firmly planed on the basement floor.

Sticking with Pioli a few more years is going to bury this franchise.

Look at the postseason following 2008. It takes time to get a GM in place, then hire a coach, etc.

The banner just strengthened Clark's resolve. The plan backfired.

Unless of course you are Atlanta.

Making this circular, faulty argument again? The Falcons did just fine.

Those players don't vanish if we change GM's. And the majority of our solid players came from the GM before Pioli anyway.

The only way I want Pioli around is if Brady Quinn can somehow lead this team deep into the playoffs.

The grace period was over after LAST SEASON.

He was expected to produce a playoff team this year.

Ultra ****ing fail.

Because after this season I might just lose his ass, especially if we are without a GM, HC, and QB. I'll take extra draft picks that allow me to move up and get Geno regardless of where our pick is. If we don't need to move, great. Then we can use that pick(s) to fill other holes.

For the thousandth time, ATLANTA did it. But hey, it's impossible, right?

I wish we'd could get a second round pick for Bowe right now. Would be preferable to when Pioli lets him walk.

I disagree. I feel we have a talented team. What's handcuffing this team is Pioli's man crush on Cassel.

I think if Clark comes in and says he's gone, we'll see something entirely different.

Herm won in KC for one season.

Just like Belichick in Cleveland.

He's a huge ****ing fraud.

It's impossible to draft a serviceable quarterback over the space of four years, that's why no teams have them.

I'm calling it a night. It's been fun.

I guess I'm captain of the Pioli fan club or something....

You'll have to mud wrestle laz

THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE TWEEETS!!!!!!!

Thats a bit of an extreme. He certainly isn't the marvel that the media thinks he is, but he did make a lot of good coaching moves during his early run in NE. His issue is that he lets his ego get involved, ever since spygate. The defensive issues the past few years should have made it clear he isn't the defensive or drafting genius that people claim he is. The media would never notice that though. Huge fraud is a little much though.

Belichick is nothing without Crennel!

What do we lose if we fire Pioli?

What has he established?

We have no successful systems in place.

The offense is a trainwreck who's lone asset is "forcefeed Charles."

The defense is hit or miss and is largely successful based only on whether or not Hali and Houston are getting to the QB.

From a PR standpoint the team is a huge trainwreck.

There is nothing positive about what Scott has done here. Not one god damn thing.

We lose NOTHING if he is fired.

With a screen name of hoover and Piloi's enjoyment in sucking you seem to be a match made in heaven. May you both DIAF. :thumb:

I dont have the energy to read through 10 pages of this shit, did this ass clown really get an extension?

The only thing roster-wise at risk this offseason is a few UFA's and Bowe. It seems we might actually have a better chance of resigning Bowe without Pioli. Really, we don't lose anything.

It's a rumor.

Janitorial standards may fall if Pioli is fired.

We can't have that, now.

It's fake.

No link.

Banananable offense.

:cuss: got me all riled up for no reason. Thanks btw.

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Ok maybe not but, I'm pretty sure he's a dead man walking

Listen to the show dumb ass.It's what he said why the **** would i make it up clown.

A little elaboration in the OP would have been nice.

A playoff game?

Provide a link to the podcast.

Or don't post random shit.

Now if you dont mind, Im going to go start a thread called, "Jamaal Charles seen on crutches today outside of team facility."

If Clark does/did this today... then I am totally convinced we will never ever win anything in most of our lifetimes. That would be one of the stupidest business decisions of all time based on what is happening the past few days.

He did say something like this on the show today because a friend asked me about it. But I didn't hear the broadcast or know what basis this had, if any

It would make me instantly stop giving a shit. Id wash my hands clean and earmark Sundays for golf.

if this is true, i'm out.

Petro hasn't broke a news story in all of his 800 years on KC radio.

This is his opinion, which is based on nothing.

I am sure Petro is suddenly turned on by Fat Scott, given his fetish for shitty Chiefs GMs (remember he built the first part of his radio career in KC jacking off King Carl).

I love the fact that it only took around 220 post till the planet came around the idea that this is most liky bullshit.

Brandon Albert....

This team has no depth, but a couple really good players.

What's also handcuffing this team is the inability to get good head coaches. You don't win with garbage HCs'. Romeo is trash as a HC.

Plus, his drafts have really been sub-par, which most NE drafts were prior to him coming here.

I don't get the love affair with him. If you think he's going to become the GM we all thought he was in 2009, you need to realize that it's past midnight, Cinderella and Pioli is the fat pumpkin that Hamas and Whitlock predicted he'd be.

I know. Do you think losing Pioli means losing Albert? I am not saying Bowe was the only guy. He is the only guy that there seems to be issues with in both camps.

My reaction...

If Pioli gets replaced part of the roster will probably be gutted anyway just so the new guy can bring his players in. That's just how it works.

There is quite a bit that needs to be flushed here anyway.

Part of the roster needs gutted.