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Quinn's career has been stop-start from the beginning. The year you're referencing, Jerome Harrison and Jamal Lewis were his RBs and Chancey Stuckey and Massaquoi were his top two receiver targets. He's never had anything even remotely close to the talent KC has now.

He has a big arm. He isn't always accurate and he's going to make some stupid mistakes. But he's going to go through his progressions, he'll throw the ball with some zip, and he's going to throw a lot more on-target passes than Cassel ever did. He's not even close to the answer, but that's a huge improvement over Cassel whose offense revolved around looking at Bowe, then checking down.

They'll defend any player they have on thier homemade big boards. Hell, they still defend Sanchez.

A three game stretch, including one very shitty game, does not indicate crap.

Kyle Orton AVERAGED 300 yards a game for an 11-game stretch one season in his career.

He's an average/above average QB on a good day.

Brady Quinn is ****ing horrible and one of the worst first round busts EVER.

They are not remotely comparable.

I can find a couple of good games that Matt Cassel played, doesn't mean you can compare him to Orton, either.

Clay, we draft Geno and his first 12 starts equal that of Quinn, you done with him?

Zero reason to believe this.

Brady Quinn has, over the course of his career, proved to be one of the most phenomenally INACCURATE quarterbacks in the entire league.

He's worse than Cassel, and it's not close.

Hit looks a lot more brutal from that angle. He gets a whiplash effect from the Ngata hit, causing his head to accelerate toward Kruger then his head attempts to occupy the same space as Krugers helmet, the result is rapid deceleration, and a rebound effect as Cassel's head is forced back the other way. Looks quite jarring.

He's played 12 games

So how many games are required to make a fair judgement?...

This is true.

This is not...

Thought I was lying?

WHEN HAS BRADY QUINN EVER BEEN AS GOOD AS CASSEL WAS IN 2008?

OR 2010?

WHEN?

I'LL TELL YOU WHEN:

NEVER.

BRADY QUINN IS A ****ING HORRIBLE QUARTERBACK WHO SHOULD NEVER START A GAME. EVER.

HE'S NOT MATT CASSEL. HE'S NOT KYLE ORTON. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

STOP ****ING BELIEVING IN SHITTY QUARTERBACKS.

He wasn't open. He was one on one.

There's a difference.

Quinn lights it up this week. Put it in the bank.

Did anyone mention part 2 of video where Raven player asks our receivers "why are we running the ball in pass situation?"

and our receivers told him "coaches want us to"

They're just praying for a miracle. Most of us know he's shit.

Are you talking about the same Kyle Orton who, using your 161 yard standard, threw for 161+ yards in only 2 of his first 16 games?

And then went to a different team and was basically a 4,000 yard passer?

that's the big concern with him

Quinn can look like stud a carry us to a win one week and then be worse than cassel the next


you keep thinking he might be the answer for a sec and then in the 2nd half it looks like a different player wearing his uniform

if he plays the rest of the season we will win several meanlingless games at the end ... especially after the pressure is off.

That's different, Kyle Orton was a 4th round pick. He wasn't supposed to play that year.

What time during the video?

One would think listening to the comments of these players and coaches would be very embarrassing to the organization.

They knew the team doesn't have anything with Cassel, they said it out loud. They heckled our WR's about it.....they laughed about it.


Keep playing for the Almost-Tie, Romeo.

What was the timestamp of them heckling our WRs?

3:00 mark. Carey Williams.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/video...7-80f4882897ca

around 3:00 in th 2nd half vid.

And Brady Quinn was a QB who was splitting first half reps with Derek Anderson. He didn't know he was supposed to play that year either, and for half of the season, Mangini took it away from him.

In either event, Orton went from being a guy struggling to hit 200 yards for several seasons with the Bears to a yardage machine in Denver. He was a totally different QB. Quinn's situation in KC is 1,000 times better than it was in KC.

Orton was young.

He was on an upward swing by the time he left Chicago and continued that pace in Denver.

Brady Quinn has NEVER shown improvement. In his last start he threw for 66 goddamn yards.

watching that video is depressing

the entire league has put a clown suit on the Chiefs and this crappy GM and crap coaching staff do nothing

How many starts did Orton get? Situations were the same I guess

This is totally ridiculous.

He has never shown improvement because he has never been given a second opportunity. That 66 yard pass was at the end of his first full starting season as a young QB and was only his 14th start. And this was with a team with a worse starting cast than the Chiefs have EVER seen in 15 years. And by the way, the Browns scored 41 points that day and won. You're not going to throw for a lot of yards when your kick returner takes 2 to the house and your RB runs for 289 yards.

I'm not excited that he's our best option. But it's totally ridiculous to act like his young, inexperienced start with a horrendous Browns offensive supporting cast is somehow the bar we set for Brady Quinn.

Hah, I found myself at Discuss Dad at 1:52

lol, that video is depressing and embarrassing. Cassel is just a ****ing joke of a qb to everyone in the league

Not everyone

ok, Cassel is a joke for 99.983 percent of the league. lol

That's the first I've seen Cassel hit from behind.

He DID NOT hit the back of his head on the turf like some mentioned.

Yes, I know he still could have sustained a concussion.

Prepare to be stunned. Just a feeling.

Definitely did not bang his head on the turf.

Hey, would you rather watch a blowout loss or a competitive one?/ RAC

RAC, you are such a dumbass. You know the answer to that question.

Then again....

Cassel is so off on his accuracy that he thinks a concussion is in his shoulder.

No, but he bangs his he'd against another ravens players helmet. Remember this clip is in slow mo. If you listen to the audio, you can hear cassels helmet pop.

Sad how other teams look at Cassel as a horrible QB....like we all do.

Yet he's championed here as the starter by our blind foolish coaching staff and front office.

They even go as far as game planning around his suckitude by NOT THROWING THE DAMN BALL, and expect us to compete like that and expect to win. You're not going to win in the NFL with gameplans like last Sunday.

Yet they keep trotting Cassel back out there, thinking things will change.

It's insane

Makes my god damn blood boil.