Except it makes no sense.

Pioli dictates game day rosters but Haley overruled Pioli and they drafted Baldwin?

Something isn't adding up.

Pioli knew back then he was gonna let Bowe walk and would need a viable replacement a d Billicheck was high on Baldwin, too.

Then Baldwin is a Pioli pick that cant get on the field over Bowe who isn't.

You cant have it both ways.

Baldwin is a Pioli pick, that's why he's stolen Breaston's starting spot. For no reason.

Steve Breaston has played 22 snaps the last two games.

ROFL @ for no reason.

Get a clue

You really think Steve Breaston is inferior to Jon Baldwin?

Get the **** out.

Clay you really overrate Steve Breaston

Yes.

He only had 61 catches for this team last year. LMAO

Baldwin, McCluster, and most any skill position player Pioli has brought in are friggin' dogshit. Cyrus Gray and Shaun Draughn look like shit too. Wylie can't get on the field.

Colossal fail of a GM.

He didn't have 1 game over 100 yards and his only 2 touchdowns game against the Colts. Before you blame it all on Matt Cassel he had a total of 9 catches with Kyle Orton. Breaston is an average WR.

Look, aside form about 10 -20 people in all CP nobody wants Pioli back so no need to go extreme, you are no longer on the "other" side so I expect you to revert soon.


Point is just because Pioli drafted someone they aren't automatic shit.

Draughn has been shit? Really? Baldwin has been fine when given the shot. He is playing with a reeruned QB, you cant have it both ways though I know you like it both ways.

You are still a ****ing reerun.

I'm sitting next to a Chiefs fan who thinks Pioli is NOT the problem in KC.

Gods save our souls.

So what do they think is the issue?

He looks like any old douchebag RB off the street.

Last 3 games he's averaging 3 YPC.

And he's still better than Baldwin or McCluster.

I'm going to rage against Scott Pioli until he's gone or I'm dead.

Who gives a shit.

If they think it's anyone other than Pioli, they are wrong.

However, Hunt would be an acceptable answer as he's the dildo that hired this shitstain in the first place.

Oh, there's a reason. It's the title of this thread.

I'm in too much shock. I guess Cassel is the problem because the dude points out Pioli's draft picks as being great.. Hudson, Lewis, Succop..

Steve Breaston should never play 22 snaps in two weeks in the NFL.

Scott doesn't want any Todd Haley guys excelling, though.

:banghead::banghead::cuss::cuss:

If your first round pick isn't playing over a late round pick that has barely seen playing time then there's a problem to begin with.

You know, I recall being called a ****ing moron for saying that the Chiefs just are not that high on Powe (but were on Toribio who people said wouldn't even make the team) and that Breaston would get neglected at the expense of McCluster and Baldwin.

This team is so ****ed and its stupid that people thought it would change all that much after last year.

Steve Breaston is TWICE the WR Baldwin is.

I agree. I don't agree that Baldwin is a waste. I think that like Breaston, but for different reasons, they aren't getting the looks they should. Even if Baldwin is getting played over a guy that he shouldn't, it doesn't mean that Baldwin sucks. I find it very difficult to gauge Baldwin or Breaston on a team where the QB sucks and the GM is most likely deciding who should play.

Breaston looked just fine last year.

Baldwin sucks.

I just don't agree with the second part. Especially on a team where not being Bowe means you aren't going to get many looks even if you are playing well. You don't need say he sucks to make the point that Pioli has made mistakes.

haha

He sure was killing it when he was starting...

3 games started 4 total catches and 44 yards for the year.

Baldwin has started one less game and has 11 catches for 176 yards on the year.

This whole discussion is silly.

Baldwin is starting because he is a better player.

YES! I love your hate. Your hate is the best we must all have similar hate. Pioli needs to be the most hated person ever and he must go now and take his fail to somewhere else NOW its demanded by us always.

http://i45.tinypic.com/67sl7q.jpg

With a legit QB on this team, all three receivers would be around 1000 yards.

Starting a game and playing more snaps are not always connected.

This doesn't explain why Palko started. I highly doubt Pioli was pushing for Palko over his boy Stanzi.

Pioli's got his issues, but this one smells of Babb getting fed BS from Haley...

Baldwin barely played the first two games while Breaston was on the field most of the time.

Dont you guys remember those discussions?

I want Pioli out, too...but for the right reasons.

Him forcing Cassel on the field the last 4 years and ignoring the alternatives should be plenty enough to get him canned.

If you subscribe to the idea that Haley was in **** it mode or just trying to piss Pioli off then it explains it just fine. Logic and Chiefs QB issues don't really go together.

Clay...if you are being the least bit objective, post the snaps played for Breaston and Baldwin.

Thats not it.

Haley wasnt shooting the finger to Pioli or anyone else.

He was told Stanzi doesnt play his rookie year and Orton was injured.

He was playing the only guy Pioli gave him to play and did his best with it.

It's easy to see, because of all the memorable plays baldwin's made.

If you're good, you can haul in 61 catches.

Like Steve Breaston.

I mean, it's possible. I wouldn't put anything past anyone at this point. But I'm reading Babb's tweet and it sounds like he's definitive about it going on with Haley, but "wonders" if RAC has to deal with the same thing. That screams to me that Haley is the one giving him info on what went on while Haley was there, or at least what Haley wants you to think went on. I mean it could have happened, but I wouldn't put it past Haley to BS a little either to make himself look good and Pioli bad.

I definitely think Pioli is behind the Cassel thing in terms of bringing in no real competition for the guy, but if Haley can play Palko, RAC can play whoever he wants. If I am RAC, I bench Cassel, start Quinn, and dare Pioli to fire me and my guaranteed contract...

7/56

Pioli'd

And I am not trying to argue Baldwin is better than Breaston. I just don't think Baldwin sucks.

I do.

He hasn't done shit this year.

Not a single ****ing thing worth shit.

Even though Baldwin wasnt even playing (almost at all) the first two games, he is on pace for a similar year of production.

11 catches for 174 yards in 3 games, basically.I bet they have similar snaps played on the year and Baldwin is much more productive...even though one of his 2 starts, we didnt even throw.

Baldwin is gonna be a star in this league when he gets matched up with a quarterback...its a shame how badly Pioli has ****ed us with these quarterbacks, though.

Uh, no.

In 4 games.

And let's not forget a big chunk of his yards are garbage time bullshit vs Buffalo and San Diego. That's like 100 bullshit yards right there.

He's a horrible player.

Post the season total snaps for both players.

If you don't, everyone will know why you didn't.

I think its bullshit that Baldwin is out this week, though.

Steve Breaston has played 165 snaps, Baldwin has played 235.

Pioli'd.

I don't think Baldwin "sucks" either. And I simultaneously believe that Breaston is a darn good WR that a lot of teams would love to have. It's a wonder my head doesn't explode trying to contain those two, conflicting viewpoints.

It is kind of silly, though, trying to evaluate the suckness of wide receivers on as team showcasing Cassel's quarterbacking skills. That's trying to judge the swimming speed of a dog wrapped in 50 feet of log chain.

I don't doubt for a moment, though, that Dr. Evil would demand that Cassel start ... as well as a select group of his preferred draft picks. That seems to me to be perfectly consistent with known aspects of his character and explains why, in the last game, the coaching staff felt it necessary to run the 1929 Bears offense.

FAX

BossChief wants to believe so badly, but none of these players he wants to love so badly are good.

Baldwin doesn't make plays, McCluster doesn't make plays, Moeaki doesn't make plays, Stanzi is a huge piece of shit....

They are all little ****ing shithead pixies picked by Scott Pioli...which means they are fail...because the guy can't draft for shit.

Baldwin has played like 80 more snaps than Breaston.

Breaston has 250 career receptions. Baldwin has the hype of St. Joe.

People want to believe SO badly that these guys don't suck...

People need to dial up some other NFL games and watch REAL players making plays.

They would want to kill Scott Pioli.

People have no idea.

How exactly are we to evaluate a WR when he has been thrown to by statistically, the worst QB in the league?

Even at that, he's not thrown to very often, when in fact, he is open.

You can call me a liar, and thats fine. But I've watched with my own eyes, the guy be open, a guy on his hip, or single covered alot.

When the hell is Scott gonna get us some little guy like this?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1380341/hawkins.gif

That kid is in his second year and raping the league with plays like that.

THAT IS A PLAYMAKER.

It's a meltdown. The verdict is in...... Pionly is guilty of fraud. Drop him like and AIDS potato.

Breaston and Bowe had no issues getting open and putting up good numbers last year.

Moss and Welker, same shit in 08.

Bowe has produced every year with Cassel.

Just stop.

The dude sucks. He's Mike Williams II. A big, chunky wide receiver who isn't very quick.

So if we are throwing out garbage numbers, exactly how much of Bowe's season this year gets thrown out?

Don't give a shit. Bowe is a proven stud. Don't bring this weak shit to me, man, I will destroy you.

Bowe has actually done something in this league. So has Breaston. Outside of training camp, Baldwin got nothin to this point.

Like you destroyed me with Freemans 26/7 last night?

You were comparing Josh Freeman to Brady Quinn, dude.

You lost that argument before you were born.

Death is Imminent!

Realize that. Not arguing that.



What I'm not a fan of is being called a liar for things I've witnessed with my own eyes, by the PFF preacher.

Baldwin in 4 games this year:
11 catches for 174 yards

Breaston last year during first 4 games:
10 catches 179 yards

Pioli must have a really big ****in picture of Cassel on that dartboard.

Still waiting for you to throw up Quinns first 13 starts to Freemans.


Also, pretty sure Freemans 2010 doesn't count. NFC West and Panthers X2

Irony.

Breaston 250 career catches, 1000-yard season.

Baldwin = hype

Garbage time yards for Baldwin mostly.

Seriously.

Had a couple nice catches against the Saints, a nice grab against Baltimore.

The rest? Bullshit.

haha

Im gonna go ahead and bookmark this post for future use.

This needs to be posted on teh FB page. LMAO That is awesome.

Yeah, this regime just needs more time.

Because everything has gotten better with time with these guys.

Remember what I said in preseason after the Rams and Seahawks kicked our ass, and people said "they'll be fine bla bla homer bullshit bla."

I said "KEEP WAITING! THINGS WILL IMPROVE FOR SURE!"

Where are we now two months later?

WE'RE IN HELL.

BURNING.

He is right, BTW.

Stanzi isn't shit, Moeaki's been absolutely invisible, McCluster was drafted 3 round too high and Baldwin has been nothing less than a bust.

Bookmark all you want but it won't change the fact that these guys, to date, haven't done a goddamn thing to push this team forward, nor should any fan expect anything more in the future.

Daru is ****in hilarious.

Does Andrew Hawkins have a history of flexing in front of the camera?

Really nice downfield block by 40.

FAX

Yep. :(

Why would this insecure mother ****er need to control the lineup? The guy has been around Belichick forever and I can guarantee he never had one ounce of control there.

Anyone who would work for him is a ****ing desperate coward.

BINGO.

Saying anything to the contrary is an insane amount of wishful thinking.

Trading up and drafting Moeaki when Graham was on the board is another ****ing notch on the Pioli fail belt.

Trying to slide in the 5000th view....

Matt Cassel

Just like I said, bookmarked.

I just don't believe Pioli controls the lineup. "Maybe" Cassel...but that's it.

Sadly that's the most important position and our worst offensive player.

So if that's the case, Pioli is just too arrogant and stupid to ever admit the mistake he made by giving him that huge contract without earning one ****ing penny of it without any competition.

egoli, indeed.