There's a lot of schools that are in towns like Manhattan and still recruit well.

Bama blows KSTATE out. Wins 10 of 10 times

I think Alabama wins 7 of 10 match UPS
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LSU got dominated by Florida much more than the final score shows. Florida held LSU to 42 yards rushing (1.7 ypc) and put up 176 yds on the ground. Florida had the ball 15 more minutes than LSU, had 22 first downs to LSU's 8, ran 25 straight running plays to close out the game, and shut LSU out in the 2nd half. LSU got destroyed by Florida. Florida didn't even attempt a pass in the 4th qtr.

KSU's advantage over teams that are more talented than them is coaching. I am no KSU fan, but I respect Snyder. Against most teams that superior coaching works in KSU's favor. Problem is Alabama is equally well coached and are CLEARLY more talented from top to bottom. Bama wins and it would not even be close.

They also got mostly handled but A&M. Four stupid unforced turnovers and A&M was still right in it.

You really can't understand that this season has yet to be played and has nothing to do with past seasons. And as far as winning something this season, K-State had better wins than Alabama thus far. I want people to see this Alabama doesn't have to play Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina in the regular season this year. Cupcake schedule.

Wait so an undefeated team has no chance at a championship appearance but LSU with one loss is in the thick of it? Haha. LSU, the 8th ranked offense in the SEC will not beat out Florida, Alabama, and Georgia. LSU needs a LOT of help. K-State not so much.

And if LSU beats Alabama then we won't see this matchup you idiot. Gees. It will be Florida vs K-State/Oregon or those two vs each other depending how it plays out.

Beat Texas tech first.

Twenty five years ago no one would have believed that KSU would even be in the top 10, let alone discussed as a participant in a NC game. Coach Snyder has done what no one ever thought would happen, TWICE. The second time shows that the first time was not just a fluke.

Alabama with out question has a crap load more talent than the Cats. But they are still just as human and just as capable of losing as any other team. Snyder has a team at this moment in time that has completely bought into his plan. They believe in not only it but, the man himself. In so doing they are reaching beyond what they thought were their limits and finding new heights that can be achieved. That makes them a very dangerous team. I don't know. What I do know is that it is stupid to automatically dismiss a man who has achieved the improbable, not once but, twice.

Doubt if you want, I will wait to see how it (hopefully) plays out on the field.

Bob fresco is that you?

Not so much.

Snyder has done yeoman's work in manhattan, that program is a tire fire under anybody else... But it's premature to talk about kstate in a national championship game... It's oct.

@KirkHerbstreit: 1. Bama 2. KST 3. UF 4. Oregon

Alabama would absolutely decimate K-State.

BCS
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. K-State
4. Oregon
5. Notre Dame
6. LSU
7. Oregon State
8. Oklahoma
9. USC
10. Georgia

Destroyed. Lost by a single possession. ****ing idiot. Kill yourself.

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I see you lack reading comprehension. Not surprising from a LSU fan.

I know, all of those NC's must cloud my thinking.

Again, when you're a single possession away from tying a game in the 4th quarter you didn't get "destroyed". That's beyond stupid. I wouldn't expect knowing any better from a god damn K-State fan.

He's a Florida fan.

1. Florida has as many NC's as LSU.

2. Having possession 15 minutes more than your opponent, outrushing them 176-42, shutting them out in the 2nd half, and not even having to attempt a pass in the 4th quarter = domination.

3. Further proving your lack of reading comprehension and general knowledge, I'm not a K-State fan.

Now we know why he was pimping the shit out of Matt Flynn.

Snyder has taken a school that should be my school's rival in the MVC and has made into a national power. That is one damn good coaching job.

Yeah, even though Flynn is garbage (and always has been). I never liked Matt Flynn.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...82#post7020982

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...11#post7944111

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...95#post8251395

A national power.

JFC.............ZERO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.

ZERO

This is why you guys are stupid beyond comprehension. You can't have a "decade of dominance" without a single NC or be a national powerhouse because of a good season here or there. JFC........

But they have a DVD. You should get one and educate yourself.

http://store.cstv.com/store_contents...duct_id=175258

I know, homey. DECADE OF DOMINANCE! Dominating a decade of college football like a boss........with no national championships. That's hard to ****ing do!

Too advanced. He doesn't even know the difference between you're and your. Leapfrog is a better alternative .

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I see YOUR sarcasm meter is broken.........

Only calling it like I see it. Call it sarcasm if you want.

You still missed it. /facepalm

Really...

This is still going on...?

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ima all for a shot at bama .. who knows anything can happen .....

That's not exactly what was said and you know it. But i wouldn't expect a person who takes a phrase (or saying or whatever the **** Saul would like to call it) like emaw as gospel to have the intelligence to understand the difference.

You know what's funny about this whole thing is that a couple KSU fans are acting exactly like what they say they hate about KU basketball fans. I don't have anything against KSU except for the few who start acting like douches when their team is winning. Which will make it fun watching them fail yet again.

All this........I know KU, MU, and K-State fans. And of those, ONLY K-State fans act like king shit after k-state wins a few games.

I would like to see K-State win, but I don't think they would have a chance.

I would rather someone throw a javelin into my taint than see k-state win a NC. The fans are bad enough without one.

:spock:

Clearly, you don't know KU fans.

I see no comparison. :shrug:

LMAO I spent the past 9 years down in east Texas. Close enough to Tiger country that I had PLENTY of encounters with LSU fans. For one of them to be complaining about obnoxious fans is quite ridiculous and hypocritical.

So in other other words, kindly go fuck yourself with said javelin.

K-State won't beat themselves, but Bama might? Sure thing.

This is a thread because Iowa State didn't have their starting RB.

What a weird thread this is.

Alabama would shut down the option quickly and proceed to rape k-state. Snyder is a glorious football wizard and all, but he and Klein aren't going to do anything special that Saban hasn't already dealt with when going against Tim Tebow/Urban Meyer.

Didn't Tebow/Meyer go on to win a couple of NCs?

Not sure that point helps your argument any.

Don't under estimate the K-state defense. It would be a close low scoring game. Probably a one possession game until about 5-10 minutes left and Bama finally pulls away.

HOLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAA

JFC............

You have done nothing in this thread except rely on past accolades of Alabama and complain about K-state fans. You have said absolutely nothing to refute any legitimate point. You have been routinely made a fool of. "K-state and fancy offense" in the same sentence comes to mind. Or when I asked you to refute what I said when you said "it was weak sauce" and you promptly ignored it. The win something first argument you have continually used has nothing to do with this season at all.

Probably my favorite of your idiotic takes is that LSU is right in the thick of the NC game hunt but K-state has no shot even though K-state is undefeated and has played their two toughest games (@ OU and @ WVU) and basically controls their own destiny while LSU has to beat out Alabama and Mississipi St in the west and then the SEC East winner and then still hope to be ahead of all those teams as well as Oregon, ND, and K-state. Why you keep coming back I don't know.

LOL, there is some professional sized butt-hurt exuding from this thread.

My guess is because a Crimson Tide bloody pad was deemed inappropriate, even in Alabama. So the next best way to honor their ladies there was to use an elephant.

Adam Davis - 6'0", 255
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That D-Line would get pushed around and abused by Alabama or Florida's O-Line.

The SEC continues to win because their elite teams control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

THis would be an interesting title matchup if for no reason other than they both execute so well. I don't know that we've ever seen a title game where both participants are so efficient from that standpoint (Not one I can think of).

I'd take Alabama by 10-14.

Snyder is a genius - top 5 coach of all time, and I'm sure he'd have won at least 3 national titles if at a school with more natural advantages - and his defense is very, very sound. But Alabama's front is SO good. Huge, athletic and consistent. Back that up with overwhelming talent, and they're going to be successful against even a good defense. Bama will execute enough to stress KSU's incredibly solid and smart but not overwhelmingly athletic defense. McCarron is a perfect fit for that system, too. He just isn't going to make mistakes or help the defense.

On defense, Alabama plays a lot like KSU. Incredibly sound. They just don't make mistakes. The difference comes in, IMO, at LB - where Alabama has 3-4 Arthur Browns on the roster and in the secondary.

That's been the biggest difference, IMO, in what I see from SEC teams this year. The level of athlete in the secondary is just higher across the board than in the Big 12.

I think Alabama would be able to make KSU one-dimensional (shutting down the run with the front 6/7), and I don't know that Klein has the arm or accuracy to throw consistently against the sticky-tight coverage Alabama will throw out there.

Klein has made BIG strides there, especially from what I saw in my last trip to Manhattan, ever, but the release is still a little slow, and most of what I've seen him doing this year involves throwing to guys who have at least 3-5 yards of separation.

Yeah, Oklahoma really dominated those guys. :rolleyes:

You can't tell me Alabama or Florida has that much more talent than Oklahoma.

No doubt either of those teams wins the game. I just don't see it being a blowout by any means. It will be one of those games where the game was closer than the score indicates.

The funny thing is that I am not even a fan of K-State or a non fan of Alabama. I am just being objective. Something most people in this thread are not capable of. (not referring to you specifically DaKCMan).

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Oklahoma?

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OU is always loaded with talent.

Their problems the last few years haven't been talent related. (except perhaps at the QB position...)

In the trenches, yes, they do.

Not sure why this is funny? OU sends a lot of guys from their OL to the NFL.

They do, but the biggest advantage the SEC teams have over other conferences are dominant offensive and defensive lines. Last time Florida played Oklahoma they outrushed them 249yds (5.4ypc) to 107yds (3.7ypc). They held an Oklahoma team averaging 54 ppg to 14 pts.

No argument on the DL. The SEC dominates that category like no other.

Not the NFL though :mad:

I know it's hard for you to see since you are a KSU fan, but they are around. Jamie, you are one of the good ones, IMO. So for your sake and the ones like you, I don't wish anything bad for your team. But there are those that are just as bad as the so called "arrogant" KU fans that our rivals always complain about. And the only thing they deserve is failure.

I would chip in on that javelin.

LMAO

"Javelin Discount Superstore" FTW.

Had to pick Bama, but it would be interesting to see when given enough time to prepare if Snyder can pull off the big upset.

Hell every fan base has that contingent. The question becomes what percentage of the fan base is made up of that contingent? That is how I judge a teams fans.

From where I've sat? 99% of em. K-State fans are the worst I've ever been around.

The gap difference in talent level from K-State to Bama is so big no amount of coaching can make up the difference. It wouldn't even be a game after the first quarter.

OU has played SEC teams.......and lost badly. So I'm not sure why the OU comparison keeps coming up.

As someone noted, the big difference is in the trenches where the SEC just owns. K-State would have no chance.

So, Guradian...how ya' diggin' Pioli/Casshole these days?

And yes, Snatchez has become FAIL, thanks.

Are you just some random, t-shirt LSU fan? Get bent, dipshit. I bet you smell like rotten mayonnaise.

Well that's a strong case made for K-State right there.

:rolleyes:

Whatever you say, T-Shirt fan......

I don't think OU's OL is quite to its usual standard this season, due to injuries and a few key guys retiring or walking away from the program. It certainly isn't as good as when Fat Phil Loadholt was there.

I'd say there's a big gap between Alabama's OL and ... well, everyone's, honestly. Also, what Alabama does on offense is much more about the OL than a team like OU (that's running basically spread offense concepts and trying to throw the ball around and use quick skill guys).

Alabama is pretty classic ground and pound. That type of approach is going to be a little more successful, usually, against a smaller DL than a team that throws it a ton.

Oklahoma threw the ball 43 times against KSU and ran it 27. If Bama runs 70 plays against KSU, I'd expect it to be something like 45 runs and 25 passing plays.

As I said, coming from an LSU fan that is highly hypocritical. Hell, do you even realize just how obnoxious and annoying you have been yourself in this very thread?

Pot meet kettle.

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Hey man, tell me again.....what's this thread about?

Yeah this thread had no business even being made.

I don't see why not. It is a legitimate question considering there is a real possibility that the game occurs.

As an LSU fan, are you pretty pumped up for the Holiday Insight Bowl this year? Tickets booked and bags packed, I'd imagine. SEC travels well.

Rohan Davey was an insanely overrated piece of shit.