Don't think I made that statement. Link?

Clark said he wanted certain criteria in a coach - being able to work with Piolimwasnt one of them - and Dirk Koetter doesn't fit hardly any of them.

So either Koetter is due diligence or Hunt is a liar.

Or he isn't interviewing Koetter at all.

I say we let the women do the wailing and let me rend the women's clothing.

Beings it's been reported that Clark didn't turn 180 on Pioli until Sunday night, it's entirely possible that Pioli already had interviews set up with potential coaches, such as Ferentz, and Clark is doing the right thing and honoring the scheduled interview and conducting business with an open mind.

Also I'm glad we're not going for Reid.

Very possible.

I've searched Google news and Twitter, and not a soul has mentioned an interview other than Breer, Chris Hanson and the guy from Iowa.

Linking someone is a lot different than saying the Chiefs have an interview set up. Hell, people have been linking Ferentz to the Chiefs for years.

Do you think Hunt took Pioii's power to hire a coach away so he could go hire a coach Pioli could hire himself?

But I'll agree. If the coach turns out to be from the tree, Hunt was full of crap.

you better go to the Reid thread. Someone reported on an interview immediately after the fact.



=OnTheWarpath58;9264898]You're certainly not this dense.

How many times in the history of the NFL has there been a report of an interview immediately after the fact?

You act as if Clark's going to hold a press conference every time he interviews someone.

Some of you just have trust issues with the media, I guess.[/QUOTE]
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Very possible. Could file that under due diligence.

Agreed. I've been calling bullshit on the Ferentz interest and interview since it started this year. The only thing that scares me is that it might be Ferentz chance to get away from Iowa with the coming years looking lean.

I don't believe the Ferentz garbage, but I do expect Pioli (not Clark) will hire one of his cronies to HC this team next season. They are going to hunker down another season.

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

They'll likely keep Gary Gibbs at DC running the 34, let him pick and choose his staff and figure in the new OC & staff on that side of the ball. I am hopeful the ST coach was RC's guy, because he was no good for this ST unit.

That's about it. As for whether I'd be turning my back on the Chiefs if I find out Clark is lying -- omitting the truth during an explanation is lying in my book -- Clark's sidestepping comment with regard to Pioli was a ****ing lie -- as of this point, Clark is fine with Pioli continuing to run football operations for the team.

Unless I see evidence Clark was not lying, I'll go with Clark is a big ass liar -- just another dishonest "businessman" and we all know the new rule$ on greed post '80's. He ain't the first liar we've been around and really, it's sports -- not like it effects me much. I stopped giving the Chiefs my financial support a year ago. Hell, what Goodell and all the owners have done to this game bothers me more.

But hey, if you're gonna lie, try and be clever about it. I do get annoyed at stupid lies.

My personal belief is you are a complete idiot.

So, in this scenario, everyone in the NFL except for Clark Hunt is afraid of what SOC can do?

So, you don't believe Clark?

Why is that?

Why on earth would anyone take clark at his word?

Yes, why?

Because if you listened to the 810 interview and don't believe the man, you have to assume he minored in theater at SMU.

Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

When has he ever lied to you or the fan base?

Josh mcd has already said that he is staying in NE and he's not accepting interviews.

I think very similarly. Clark's deadlocked on getting Cowher right now.

I think you are spot on here
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Dude. It's the second day of the offseason for us. The first day was the firing of the head coach and a statement from the owner that the current GM, if he's retained, will have an insignificant role.

A week or 2 into it I would start to worry. Not the second day.

Yep. Cowher seems to be exactly who he was talking about in his interviews yesterday

I got no love for the chin. Just a short term solution.

Plausible, just have to wait this shit out and see what happens.

This is so ****ing drivel. LOLWUT? Why would you notbbelieve Clark is interested in running the Chiefs the way they do it in Pittsburgh?

What on earth makes you think Clark sidestepped Pioli questions?

This pretty much mirrors how I feel right now, right or wrong.

JMO Dave. Everybody knows Pioli ****ed up and needs to pay the price.

Any expert could analyze that video -- bet he would say Clark was lying during the Pioli questioning.

That's the worst part, especially with a rabid fanbase that wants answers/solutions yesterday at the latest.

I don't see Cowher as a solution...

Yep.

Lying about what? That Pioli's future with the Chiefs is yet to be determined?

I just hope that Clark isn't so deadlocked that if Cowher declines, that we don't get royally ****ed and end up with some slapdick out of desperation. Sound familiar?

Cowher just makes too much sense.

Clark's been talking to Marty. You know Marty is going to bat for Cowher, and doing the same for Clark to BC.

Clark has a hard-on for all things Steelers.

Cowher fits the criteria Clark laid out yesterday to a T.

Cowher immediately fills Arrowhead, or at least comes close - certainly brings in more fans than any other possible hire.

Cowher wants total control, and based on Clark's comments yesterday, he's looking for that type of HC.

The question is, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching?

The fact we have heard literally 0 reports from the media on Gruden or Cowher is interesting.

Carl was also in KC on Monday, according to a fan post on AP.

again with a post that is spot on
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I would assume that the coach Hunt hires has to have a good history with QB's. I don't see that with Cowher.

FYP.

If he wants to draft the next Roethlisberger, I'll let him.

As long as they dont make me renew before its decided. lol... I am good with waiting it out.

Smoke...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=94

If he wants to coach again? I know we can go round and round all night about the roster, but if he wants to coach again, its a spot he is familiar with, knows what he is walking into, and gets everything he wants.

Fair enough. Much more accurate.

You mean a guy who was expected to win the heisman his final year of college and dropped to the Steelers? I'm not excited by that.

Cowhers complete QB history is annoying more than anything. He hardly had anything to do with Roethlisberger other than making a fairly easy pick.

No. Coaches & GM's mainly.

ROFL

Josh McDaniel has already notified the league that he will not interview for jobs.

ROFL

Carl Peterson is more likely to come back than we are to get Cowher

That's the report I referenced earlier.

He also said somewhere that Clark talked to gruden the morning after the pittsburgh game. Maybe in the same post
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If we get a "name" like Cowher, etc., this will also be a pretty big statement about the status of the current roster.

These types of coaches are not going to walk into a situation that they view as a hot mess. They'll go to a situation where it will be plug and play with a few pieces, with immediate expectations for strong seasons.

VERY plausible.

I'm glad he hasn't contacted Andy Reid. Stay the hell away from that.

And I'm gonna hate life if it's Cowher.

That's how I think it goes down.

If the problem is "selling tickets", Cowher is the PERFECT solution.

ROFL you have every reason to believe?

Do you still believe Clark is going to "build an org like the Steelers"????

Good for you.

Expected to win the Heisman? By who?

Jason White's name was attached the entire year, and the only other guy that even had a chance was Larry Fitzgerald.

And I'm not sure how Ben "dropped" to 11, considering he was never considered an equal of Manning or Rivers.

You're not excited by Roethlisberger? That wouldn't be good enough in KC?

As Chiefs fans, we should be well aware that drafting a QB is never "easy" for some people or organizations. 30 years tells us this.

The Heisman probably wasn't ever coming out of Miami of Ohio. But let's say he actually was a viable contender, which he wasn't: doesn't that sound similar to Geno Smith talk? Heisman hopeful who "disappointed"?

And we sure as **** know that, should the Chiefs select him, it will be anything but an "easy choice," though hindsight might suggest otherwise.

The Chin is well aware by now he only won a SB at the end of his Pitt career because he drafted a stud QB.

He would surely try to replicate his last 5 years in Pitt, not the Kordell Stewart era.

I will add this:

If Cowher could manage to do what he did in Pittsburgh, he would be a LIVING GOD in Kansas City.

If you're convinced he's lying, what reason do you have to continue being a fan?

If Clark keeps Pioli and hires another of his pals you could see a very empty stadium next year and many STH dropping out....

yup


my fear is cowher = alex smith

clark has already spoken in weasle tongue about fixing the qb position

but i can't blame clark for wanting the great white whale..

You know, Cowher isn't my first choice either - but considering Clark isn't going to go the Gamble, Dorsey or Ross route, it might be the best option left.

Two things will decide how I view the Cowher hire, should it happen.

He better draft a QB at 1.1.

I want to see that he's able and willing to adapt to the fact this is a passing league. If he comes out with his RRPP bullshit trying to win games 10-7 like it's 1995 - I'm done.

I also hope to hell he surrounds himself with a great scouting department, because his draft history is spotty at best.

The point is a fair one. Did Cowher beg for big Ben? Or was it luck that he fell that low? Despite drafting him, big Ben was a game manager under Cowher. He became a passer after Cowher left. I'd be much more excited by Gruden or Holmgren. I have much more confidence in them to develop a QB.

It's literally not possible for Pioli to have any viable role now that Clark pulled down Scott's pants and showed us his misshapen phallus.

I think I'd rather have Reid...Then again Cowher does have a super bowl ring...

He was also a developing QB at the time, and it was somewhat unconventional for a n00b A.) to be playing and B.) to be succeeding.

Don't let presenticism color your view of history.

Oh no a young qb started as a game manager and them progressed.


That's not an indictment of cowher to me.

only way it would have been is if cowher was fired due to the misuse of Ben
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You're and I are on the same page. Tell me you want either Gruden or Kelly and I'll leave my fiance'. I call being the guy in the relationship.

Until I see KC hire or even interview a big name for that matter, I wont believe it

ROFLROFL

Ben was a rooney call.

Roethlisberger is white.

Going into his final season, he was the favorite. In his first game vs Iowa, the Iowa defense destroyed those chances, and he never rebounded. Come on man.

I c wut U did Thurr
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this is why it is essential Clark insists on drafting a QB...that is non-negotiable for any hire....

As hard as it is, time will tell if Clark is going to be true to his word or if we are gooing to end up with another "Herm" mess.

Pioli should have been fired only on the depth of the roster. That's the GM's job, and there is none.

Are you dense? I'm not excited byt Cowhers ability to find a QB. Roethlisberger was an easy pick. Who I might add, Cowherd had little to do with his success IMO

If we are going to go the way of an NFL retread Cowher would be my only choice. At least I know we will have an identity again, unlike the wishy washy gelatinous goo that we've put a helmet with an arrowhead on it for the past several years.

I, personally, like what I hear about Kelly. A gambler, so to speak. I'm sooooo sick of this play not to lose pussy calls.

Doesn't mean he suddenly knows how to find one.

Chiefs fans calling QBs easy picks. OK.

Just like that easy pick by GB in '05. Wasn't too easy for our stupid ****ing franchise.

Pretty much how I feel.