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jd1020 01-01-2013 06:27 PM

Sorry. I'm not in a position to question Schefter and his sources.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 06:35 PM

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin
I'm hearing from sources Andy Reid going to Ariz Cards could have hangup if he insists former #eagles and #browns GM Tom Heckert comes w him
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Hmm did I call it or did I call it?

SAUTO 01-01-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9265672)
Sorry. I'm not in a position to question Schefter and his sources.

Don't then. Stock up for them and then look stupid sometimes.

They are all wrong quite a bit. Every reporter. Wrong. Sometimes.

They all want to be first so they throw it out as soon as they hear something, they don't always research it
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BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9265672)
Sorry. I'm not in a position to question Schefter and his sources.

So you'll just believe everything you read?

SAUTO 01-01-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9265713)
Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin
I'm hearing from sources Andy Reid going to Ariz Cards could have hangup if he insists former #eagles and #browns GM Tom Heckert comes w him
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Hmm did I call it or did I call it?

see this is where the interview process comes in.

They will discuss things like this.

That's why Schefter was premature in saying it was 95 percent prior to an interview happening
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SAUTO 01-01-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9265736)
So you'll just believe everything you read?

Seems like that us the prevailing thought process around here lately
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jd1020 01-01-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9265736)
So you'll just believe everything you read?

Yes, because Schefter = everything...

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2013 06:46 PM

Adam Schefter is right about 95% of the time. He's the best in the business.

ChiefsCountry 01-01-2013 06:50 PM

Reid is from Los Angeles and went to school at BYU. Coached at Northern Arizona and in El Paso. Geographically and his background fits perfectly with Arizona. I would venture the hold up would be who he brings along for GM. Arizona has a pretty good choice in-house I believe.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9265767)
Reid is from Los Angeles and went to school at BYU. Coached at Northern Arizona and in El Paso. Geographically and his background fits perfectly with Arizona. I would venture the hold up would be who he brings along for GM. Arizona has a pretty good choice in-house I believe.

their in house is interviewing other places.


I'm not in any way saying is not going to happen. Hell I don't want Reid here, so it's not even wishful thinking.

I just don't buy all the shit that gets flung around these days.

Twitter has ruined credible reporting imo
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Gravedigger 01-01-2013 06:53 PM

#1 Schefter is reporting that a league source says he's 95% sure.
#2 What if Reid is doing this to blow smoke and get the price up from another organization by leaking info like this. Coaches and Players do it all the time and the fact that the Cardinals have not even interviewed him or shown him the facilities or anything I think it's a hooplah right now.

Not to mention whats great about Arizona? Honestly? They had a worse pass attack than we did, Kolb is obviously dried up, they have a newer stadium but their fanbase is nowhere near as dedicated as ours. They've only sniffed postseason success once when they went to the Superbowl. I just don't understand why he believes thats the best situation to continue his career. Not to mention in the same division as Harbaugh and Carroll with a two years behind each in building? I'd think you'd come here where you only have to deal with the Broncos and that's until Peyton hangs it up which should be in the next year or two.

mcaj22 01-01-2013 06:56 PM

hahah here it comes

once coaches with somewhat of a name start coming off the board to what Chiefs homers consider shittier teams (they are right), its going to fly WHY DID ____ CHOOSE ____ OVER US?

here's why. Scott Pioli.

so while Reid goes to Arizona and Chip Kelly goes to ____ and Bill Cowher and Billick stay in the studio and Gruden goes to ____

you will at the end of the day, wonder why. Just like you wonder why Peyton Manning chose Denver. Same constant

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9265783)
hahah here it comes

once coaches with somewhat of a name start coming off the board to what Chiefs homers consider shittier teams (they are right), its going to fly WHY DID ____ CHOOSE ____ OVER US?

here's why. Scott Pioli.

so while Reid goes to Arizona and Chip Kelly goes to ____ and Bill Cowher and Billick stay in the studio and Gruden goes to ____

you will at the end of the day, wonder why. Just like you wonder why Peyton Manning chose Denver. Same constant

You are slow. That has been covered. What part of Clark saying he's selecting the HC do you not get? Why would he blatantly lie on the radio and TV?

mcaj22 01-01-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9265794)
You are slow. That has been covered. What part of Clark saying he's selecting the HC do you not get? Why would he blatantly lie on the radio and TV?

what the hell does this have to do with anything you weirdo. I am literally responding to the post above saying the "Cardinals are garbage, what do they have, why would Reid go there" with the right response to those questions.

Reid wont consider us as long as Pioli has an office space

Brock 01-01-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9265794)
You are slow. That has been covered. What part of Clark saying he's selecting the HC do you not get? Why would he blatantly lie on the radio and TV?

Polio will still be here, probably.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9265797)

Reid wont consider us as long as Pioli has an office space

You didn't listen to a single word Clark said.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2013 08:11 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

One source close to Andy Reid insisted deal w/ Cards not close. Another source said Cards search open and no leading candidate at this time

bowener 01-01-2013 08:11 PM

If Reid is hired there, AZ should go hard after Mike Wallace to play opposite Fitz. Probably can't afford him though. Plus a QB is a bit more important.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266035)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

One source close to Andy Reid insisted deal w/ Cards not close. Another source said Cards search open and no leading candidate at this time

:clap: Money maneuver by Reid

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266035)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

One source close to Andy Reid insisted deal w/ Cards not close. Another source said Cards search open and no leading candidate at this time

LOL So now he's reeling?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:12 PM

Its not over til its over. Just like 3 years ago when ESPN said Cliff Lee to the Yankees was a done deal..then an hour later it was dead

NJChiefsFan 01-01-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266035)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

One source close to Andy Reid insisted deal w/ Cards not close. Another source said Cards search open and no leading candidate at this time

So the mighty Schefter doesn't really know?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:19 PM

:)Sounds 50/50 to me not 95%:harumph::hmmm:

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2013 08:20 PM

Jason Cole thinks Reid lands in KC.

splatbass 01-01-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9265797)

Reid wont consider us as long as Pioli has an office space

Link?

There sure are a lot of baseless assumptions on this site lately. Personally I'll wait to see what actually happens.

MahiMike 01-01-2013 08:23 PM

That's ok if true. We'll take his twin brother Holmgren.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9266070)
That's ok if true. We'll take his twin brother Holmgren.

NO!

splatbass 01-01-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 9265486)
All we've heard is he has interviews with 3 coaches opposite the profile he described. All 3 with connections to Pioli . It could all be a smoke screen, but you should know who you want and act fast. I don't know why we always have to slow play every decision. You've known these changes were coming for half of the season. Stop ****ing around and get on it. Talk is just talk. I hope he has a plan in place because it sure doesn't feel like it. Hopefully I'm wrong and Kelly will be named January 4th.

The impatience is astounding here. It has been one day. Has any other team hired a HC yet?

Crush 01-01-2013 08:25 PM

This reminds of Shanahan to KC DONE DEAL!!!! Chris Mortensen reported as such, and then the rat said, "What the **** are you talking about?" I hope Reid comes to KC. Death to Pioli!!!!

Mr_Tomahawk 01-01-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266064)
Jason Cole thinks Reid lands in KC.

:clap:

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:28 PM

Its funny because LaConfora mentions KC as a sleeping giant for HC, then mentions reid twice, now Jason Cole thinks KC, John Clayton said KC...until Reid is in Arizona ill say Reid will go to KC. But if Clark cant land a good coach he's BSing

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9266075)
This reminds of Shanahan to KC DONE DEAL!!!! Chris Mortensen reported as such, and then the rat said, "What the **** are you talking about?" I hope Reid comes to KC. Death to Pioli!!!!

Yep.

If Clark wants Reid, Pioli is out. I don't see how Reid could possibly work with Pioli.

dirk digler 01-01-2013 08:29 PM

PFT suggested his agent might be blowing smoke about Arizona. Just as long as he doesn't come here I don't care where he goes. He should take a year off or more to get his life straightened out.

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266084)
Its funny because LaConfora mentions KC as a sleeping giant for HC, then mentions reid twice, now Jason Cole thinks KC, John Clayton said KC...until Reid is in Arizona ill say Reid will go to KC. But if Clark cant land a good coach he's BSing

If the hold up of Reid to AZ is because they don't want to bring his GM in then what makes you think he's going to come to KC?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9266091)
PFT suggested his agent might be blowing smoke about Arizona. Just as long as he doesn't come here I don't care where he goes. He should take a year off or more to get his life straightened out.

Reid is the best we can do. Big name coach wise. Gruden isnt coaching this year, Cowher is all BS

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266095)
If the hold up of Reid to AZ is because they don't want to bring his GM in then what makes you think he's going to come to KC?

Because Clark will hire him and fire Pioli and bring Heckert with him. Clark knows he needs to save the fan base

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266100)
Because Clark will hire him and fire Pioli and bring Heckert with him. Clark knows he needs to save the fan base

If that's the case then why wasn't Pioli fired say, I don't know, 36 hours ago?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266102)
If that's the case then why wasn't Pioli fired say, I don't know, 36 hours ago?

Because he's trying to force him to quit.

dirk digler 01-01-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266097)
Reid is the best we can do. Big name coach wise. Gruden isnt coaching this year, Cowher is all BS

If that is the best we can do we are in trouble.

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266105)
Because he's trying to force him to quit.

Fantastic theory that holds no water.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266097)
Reid is the best we can do. Big name coach wise. Gruden isnt coaching this year, Cowher is all BS

I haven't seen anything on Gruden or Cowher not wanting to coach next year.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266108)
Fantastic theory that holds no water.

Why doesn't it hold water?

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9266111)
Why doesn't it hold water?

Because he's not going to throw away millions of dollars?

There are 2 reasons that Pioli is still around.

1) Clark likes Pioli and still has faith in him.
2) Clark is trying to work around the contract to save money for when he fires him.

Brock 01-01-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266105)
Because he's trying to force him to quit.

That is a real pussy move.

the Talking Can 01-01-2013 08:39 PM

Clark is either an emo pussy who is holding out hope he can find a coach willing to work with his best brah scott.....or, some legal issue around money is holding up pioli's certain firing


we'll know soon

fwiw, petro was adamant this morning on his show that he has 'sources' saying Cowher is not going to coach this year...

SAUTO 01-01-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266108)
Fantastic theory that holds no water.

But Schefter said it was 95 percent right?

Do you still believe everything you read from him?
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Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9266109)
I haven't seen anything on Gruden or Cowher not wanting to coach next year.

Cowher hasnt coached in since 2006. Gruden has yet to line up an interview. Gruden will coach again, Cowher wont

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9266125)
That is a real pussy move.

Its what Pioli made employees due when he first came here. Hear Babb talk about it this morning

dirk digler 01-01-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266119)
Because he's not going to throw away millions of dollars?

There are 2 reasons that Pioli is still around.

1) Clark likes Pioli and still has faith in him.
2) Clark is trying to work around the contract to save money for when he fires him.

I think they are working on a settlement or because of the 3-4 lawsuits that are currently on going might be an issue.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266119)
Because he's not going to throw away millions of dollars?

There are 2 reasons that Pioli is still around.

1) Clark likes Pioli and still has faith in him.
2) Clark is trying to work around the contract to save money for when he fires him.

Shutting an egomaniac out of a coaching search is sure to get under his skin.

And listening to Clark talk leads me to believe he's lost faith in Pioli. He gave him a gag order.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266108)
Fantastic theory that holds no water.

How do you know it doesnt? Why else would he strip him of his power and say the HC will have it

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9266140)
Shutting an egomaniac out of a coaching search is sure to get under his skin.

Shutout so hard that the only rumors to KC have Pioli connections.

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266141)
How do you know it doesnt? Why else would he strip him of his power and say the HC will have it

Hmmm, I don't know. Maybe PR?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266145)
Shutout so hard that the only rumors to KC have Pioli connections.

I agree so time will tell

AussieChiefsFan 01-01-2013 08:43 PM

Albert Breer<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>AlbertBreer
Had a couple people adamantly tell me no deal was close for Reid in the afternoon. Lot of smoke out there. But looks like they were right.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9266148)
Hmmm, I don't know. Maybe PR?

Could be. Again time will tell. I too have said its fishy that the 3 candidates so far have connections to him

Brock 01-01-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9266136)
Its what Pioli made employees due when he first came here. Hear Babb talk about it this morning

How is that a recommendation?

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:44 PM

It was all that radio station dude trying to get publicity

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 08:44 PM

95%

dirk digler 01-01-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9266126)
Clark is either an emo pussy who is holding out hope he can find a coach willing to work with his best brah scott.....or, some legal issue around money is holding up pioli's certain firing


we'll know soon

fwiw, petro was adamant this morning on his show that he has 'sources' saying Cowher is not going to coach this year...

I would be surprised if Cowher ever coached again. Why do that instead of working 1 day a week during the NFL season and make a couple million.

Crush 01-01-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9266164)
I would be surprised if Cowher ever coached again. Why do that instead of working 1 day a week during the NFL season and make a couple million.

Unless Clark offers him 15-20 million/year, Cowher is not coaching again.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-01-2013 08:54 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Andy Reid will interview with the Cardinals tomorrow.

Mother****erJones 01-01-2013 08:54 PM

Here we go...

jd1020 01-01-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266192)
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Andy Reid will interview with the Cardinals tomorrow.

Pioli's puppet.

ChiefsCountry 01-01-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9266177)
Unless Clark offers him 15-20 million/year, Cowher is not coaching again.

That is just flat stupid. The highest paid NFL coach makes 8 million a year.

Crush 01-01-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9266221)
That is just flat stupid. The highest paid NFL coach makes 8 million a year.

Would you rather have a non-stressed 1 day a week job for 2 million or a stressed 24/7 job for 8 million? I'll take the 2 million every time. Unless Clark severely overpays for the Chin, then he is staying at CBS.

jd1020 01-01-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9266231)
Would you rather have a non-stressed 1 day a week job for 2 million or a stressed 24/7 job for 8 million? I'll take the 2 million every time. Unless Clark severely overpays for the Chin, then he is staying at CBS.

Some people prefer to be active and not inactive.

Brock 01-01-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9266231)
Would you rather have a non-stressed 1 day a week job for 2 million or a stressed 24/7 job for 8 million? I'll take the 2 million every time. Unless Clark severely overpays for the Chin, then he is staying at CBS.

You dont have the enormous ego necessary to swim in those waters.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9266231)
Would you rather have a non-stressed 1 day a week job for 2 million or a stressed 24/7 job for 8 million? I'll take the 2 million every time. Unless Clark severely overpays for the Chin, then he is staying at CBS.

I seriously doubt he makes $2m a year from CBS. Prove me wrong.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 09:11 PM

If they are paying him $2m for 5+ months of work, CBS is reeruned.

dirk digler 01-01-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9266240)
I seriously doubt he makes $2m a year from CBS. Prove me wrong.

There is no link that would have the exact amount, it is rumored to be around $1-2 million. He did sign a 7 figure extension a few years ago.

Gruden's ESPN contract is rumored to be around $4 million a year

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9266270)
There is no link that would have the exact amount, it is rumored to be around $1-2 million. He did sign a 7 figure extension a few years ago.

Gruden's ESPN contract is rumored to be around $4 million a year

Severely overpaid.

Shaid 01-01-2013 09:19 PM

Rumored to be over $4 Million annually for Chucky.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ck-to-coaching

dirk digler 01-01-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9266279)
Severely overpaid.

Who wouldn't want to have a job like that?

BossChief 01-01-2013 09:22 PM

Sean Payton just signed the biggest deal for a coach at 7.5 per year and I'd bet anything Clark would have no problem matching that for Cowher or Reid.

That is, if he is to be taken at face value.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9266035)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

One source close to Andy Reid insisted deal w/ Cards not close. Another source said Cards search open and no leading candidate at this time

O's fan you are the one who posted this tweet.

So Schefter has reported it both ways. 95 percent a done deal.

Not even close

Best in the business.
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BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9266300)
Who wouldn't want to have a job like that?

Agreed.

Cushy jobs. I figured they were making $500,000-700,000 per.

There really is no reason to come back unless they desire another SB.

mcaj22 01-01-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9266302)
Sean Payton just signed the biggest deal for a coach at 7.5 per year and I'd bet anything Clark would have no problem matching that for Cowher or Reid.

That is, if he is to be taken at face value.

well Clark had no problem paying that to Scooter Pioli or 60 million to Castle or 70 million to Tyson Jackson

so I dont see why Clark would have no problem paying an actual real NFL coach

-King- 01-01-2013 09:44 PM

Horton will get a second interview with the Cardinals
Posted by Mike Florio on January 1, 2013, 10:39 PM EST


At a time when a “source” (possibly, agent Bob LaMonte) is expressing “95 percent” certainty to Adam Schefter that Andy Reid will be the next coach of the Cardinals and Arizona P.R. guru Mark Dalton is saying there’s a 99-percent chance that the 95-percent assessment is 100-percent inaccurate, someone not named Andy Reid will be getting a second interview for the job.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton will interview with Arizona brass for a second time on Wednesday, two days after his initial interview for the job.

The source advises that Horton also will interview with the Bills on Wednesday evening, and confirms that Horton interviewed with the Browns on Tuesday in Arizona.

On Monday, the Cardinals fired coach Ken Whisenhunt, G.M. Rod Graves, and the entire offensive coaching staff. The defensive staff remains in place.

The Bad Guy 01-01-2013 09:46 PM

On Sirius tonight they said there's a strong group of Cardinals players beating the drum for Horton.


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