Are people really concerned that he wasn't a good player? Mike Singletary was a great player and terrible coach. The two things often have little to do with each other.

Go **** yourself

:p Just ribbing ya a little Dane.

Well, it's not like Reid and Chilly will be turning a deaf ear to what's going on. They have both been QB coaches themselves. Mentor program. They got this.

Yea, just like someone saying "those college guys scare me" They all coached in College at some point people.

Liken it to us wanting to draft and develop our own QB's. Let's be the ones to to give some young coaches the chance to start here and become innovative and dynamic, while having some veteran leadership watching over them so they don't totally collapse while doing it. Perfect combination if you ask me. Reid/Chilly/Pedersen/Nagy

Not real impressed with Chilly. Could have done worse though i guess.

Who said who is calling plays yet?

Even so, there is a first time for everyone. I'm assuming that's what Chilly is being brought on for, to help them. Great idea. :thumb:

I'VE GOT HIS ROOKIE CARD!11

I think that's exactly what Reid is thinking. In fact, Howard Eskin said in one of his interviews before Clark hired Reid that he thinks Pederson is going to be a HC someday.

That's the kinda guys I wanna give a chance here first. :thumb:

I hope Reid knows what he's doing with Childress and Pederson, because Childress' offenses have been bad to mediocre in the past. Not Daboll level of suck, but not inspiring either.

It may be why he's moving away from stale play callers and giving it over to some fresh guys. They may fail, but Reid at least has expertise on that side of it. Really the biggest thing on offense is going to be who the QB is. It's the DC that I am most concerned about...

He knows whats at stake at this point in his career, he wants the perfect fit everywhere... if he wants childress, I want childress... give this guy a UNIFIED vision without second guessing from above.

I've said the same things about two guys who failed me in one way or another, but this really does seem different... Reid is a LIFER on his last big chance, he wants continuity and cohesion like drunks want another beer, if chilly fills the bill, i'm IN.

Its time to get behind the train...

Why do people say this is Reid's last big chance? I mean i get it, he loves Arrowhead and the Hunt family, but he's only been a HC in one city, with one team.
Reid will get more than one chance to be a HC if the KC gig fails, which it wont, i hope.

I think Chilly is pretty creative in PA and route/play design vertically. Nobody utilizes the pump-draw as well and nobody utilizes the pump-draw, and then PA off it like Chilly does in prime situations. If you watch Favre's 1st year with chilly, you'll see a lot of great stuff on film after the initial learning period (around week 5 or so).

Yeah. Ability on the field is not really a good way of weeding out your next coach. Some guys make it to the highest level based as much on knowing the game inside and out as it is based on their skill, or more so. I would imagine a veteran coach would notice these skills pretty quickly in a player.

This reminds me of Cowboys HC Jason Garret

Obviously Reid sees something good in him. You would think that if he just wanted to go with a friend he'd bring in Childress or Shurmur to call the plays.

People are getting too caught up on being a poor player. It's irrelevant to coaching. Wilson and Geno are being tutored by Chris Weinke right now.

I do wish that at least one of the two (OC and QB coach) had a little more experience.

Great players rarely become coaches. They don't need to since they have millions and millions of dollars and don't feel the need to work 80+ hour weeks when they can make almost as much doing TV work with a much lighter schedule and alot less pressure.

wat

Agree on the 1st part.

On the 2nd part, if Childress comes here as an assistant HC or something similar, he'll be intimately involved in the offense.

Not really worried about any of it right now.

More worried about the defense.

Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach phys ed.

great players often have natural talent and it comes easily to them--they don't have to work at it. bad players have to bust their asses off to get everything from their limited skill set.

it's one reason why backup catchers make great baseball managers--catchers are generally cerebral to begin with ALONG with the grinding mentality of trying to keep a roster spot and get the most of their talent.

After the three-headed playcalling in KC two years ago, I'm a little gun shy about having too many cooks in the kitchen and having Childress involved. I'm not sure I want a first time play caller having to look over his shoulder every call.

Change your tampon.

If we had a rookie HC, I would be concerned. I'm not.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71

According to the agency Pro Star Coaching they state on the website their client Matt Nagy is the #Chiefs QB coach. https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/...495617/photo/1

yes, and "shitty" QBs more often than not make great O coaches.

There were rumblings that Tyler Palko was doing a player-coach training thing when he was with us for two years. The staff saw the potential in him to be a great coach- he apparently really "gets" the game, just has zero physical ability or knack for playing the position.

I could see that. A guy who tries that hard to fit in the NFL deserves to accomplish his dream if he works hard enough.

And good QBs make too much money to mess with coaching.

Not that any of this is new news, but...

Childress never called a play when he was in that Philly offense.

All Andy all day. Just like it will be here. Reids way and these peckers are just his buddies along for the ride. Reid's offense or die.

who in the blue hell or what is a Matt Nagy?

Thanks.it gets hard do sort out the Bs from fact in these mega-threads

Reid has a history of creating good coaches. We need to embrace it. We all say we want the next hot coach and now we have a HC that develops people. Pederson goes from player to quality control to QB coach to OC. All under Reid. This isn't a reach folks, this is a HC who has watched this guy develop.

Former Arena League QB whos been with the Eagles the past few years according to this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Nagy

Backup QB's push paper, and call plays. Why is this a bad idea again? Look at Kubiak.

Scrubb QB who never made really made it. Made the eagles one year then Reid put him on the staff. First as quality control, now as QB coach. This is the exact same path that Pederson took.

This.

And he's on the fast track to becoming a HC. Nagy is following in Pederson's footprints. I like it sofar

Basically both Pederson and Nagy will have Chilly watching over them and helping them.... pretty smart move IMO.

This is awesome. I love us being out there and in the mix again.

Maybe Chilly is going to be Assistant HC/Quailty Control QBs.

Chilly ROFL

It's amazing the difference in what is going on now vs what we've seen in the past. I'm so excited to see what this team will look like in september :drool:

Causes a bit of confusion when Reid calls for him.

Clark is allowing Reid to put together a pretty big staff.

Love the young up and comers with the experienced guys to guide them.

Its so refreshing to see our organization looking competent. It has been a long time.

We were competent when we hired *****, it just didn't work out.

Ask me at the end of the season to see if I like this or not. GM I like,the OC is going to have to show me.

Does this mean yall will draft a QB? I think it points to signs that you will. If he brought in a vet, you wouldn't need someone who failed at the QB position to teach a vet anywhere.

Wait, wuh? We have one? Who?

Herbie Teope ‏@HerbieTeope

After earlier listing Matt Nagy as Chiefs QB coach on website, Pro Star Coaching has removed title. https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/stat...124097/photo/1

Save Our Chiefs
Catching up on Chiefs news: John Dorsey is finalizing an agreement to become the Chiefs GM. Brad Childress will be hired to serve as an Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Consultant-type role. Doug Pederson is expected to be named Offensive Coordinator and Matt Nagy is now CONFIRMED (via Nick Jacobs at Metro Sports) as the Chiefs QB coach.

With all due respect, a lot of you are ****ing stupid. This is Andy Reid's offense regardless of who he hires. You are really bitching because he's bringing in people who have been learning his system for years? Brad Chilldress will also be here helping treach the offense, it doesn't matter if Childress or Pederson is the OC, it's Reid's offense and he's calling the plays. Some people who have worked with Pederson(unlike you ****s) think me might be a HC relatively soon.

Exactly.

I remember the giant push after years of Vermeil and Herm to get a young coordinator with a lot of promise and potential for growth in the coaching ranks. That didn't work out too well, and then people immediately leaped in the opposite direction, demanding Cowher, Gruden, and Fisher. Now we have that experience people asked for after Haley, but the flippin offensive coordinator is now too young and inexperienced?

Get a hold of yourselves. Coaches who lose coordinators to coaching jobs make these kinds of hires all the time. It's a good move.

Was looking at some Eagles' statistics under Reid. Interestingly, McNabb never passed for 4,000 in a season. A buddy from Philly has always insisted that McNabb was overrated and it was all Reid. Looking forward to seeing what Reid does with a rookie QB.

I was part and a big perpetrator of that particular "rumbling." I would not be surprised at all if Coach Palko is a hit with fans a decade or so from now.

Players who want to do certain things on the field but are limited physically, tend to try to compensate by being cerebral about it. Players who are physically talented don't have to.

Were Marty, Cower, Jim Harbaugh, etc. great players? No. They were limited players who figured out what to do only to be limited by their own physical limitations.

w00t!!!!!!!

Now, who's this "Nagy-headed" fool?

Bet not here :)

Yep

My guess is Childress will be the quasi-OC, with Pederson as the pupil. Reid may actually call the plays tho. I'm thinking Reid knows chilly is a short term hire, will be looking for the next HC opportunity, so let's make sure we have an apprentice in the works if and when he needs to assume the OC role.

Reid has already stated that he's NOT calling the plays.

No disrespect to Marty or the SOC, but they have been saying that for 3 days now. I really wonder what the hold up is.

No NFL will hire Childress as their head coach. If he wants to be a head coach, it'll be on the college level.

Correct.

Holy crap. Matt Nagy. I thought I recognized the name; he's a former U of Delaware QB. I'm sure that's very impressive.

Yea, Plus 610 reported Nagy being on that web site as QB coach was taken down. Wonder if someone with the Chiefs made a call and asked them to wait till it's official.

I'm thinking all this is true, just wish it would happen already.

When? Where? Link? I think I've listened to all the interviews he has done.
How did I miss that? :doh!:

I couldn't agree more with the point you are making, But why do you have to call people names. Jeez, it's just football and opinions. People are wrong and right. Anger Management.

This is Chiefs Planet. Love it or leave it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dorsey had already signed, but they are just waiting for all of the coaches to be hired and announce it all at once and have 1 press conference.

Rush Limbaugh?

I heard the same thing, but everyone chooses to ignore it.

Must say a lot about Pederson if Reid is going to trust him calling plays when he always does it himself.

Or believe it.

One of the two.

Im sure that will change at the first bad game or two. He's too much of a control freak.

Have the prophecies of the ginger come to pass yet? Or are we still waiting on the lion to speak?

**** YOU! **** YOU! **** YOU!

just kidding. don't be such a gaz, man.