Kaun is still playing pro ball for the best team in Russia. Plays significant minutes too.

http://www.euroleague.net/competitio...k&pcode=001228
http://www.euroleague.net/competitio...asoncode=E2012

I know I was mocking CoMo

Anybody else think Ellis would be farther along if he had Coach Manning in his ear?

Ellis is a great kid and hard worker....He will get better every year he is here.
They all do....

Maybe

Ellis, and traylor for that matter, are going to be just fine.

Matter of fact, I see Traylor being a darnell jackson type. And Ellis has a pretty high ceiling IMHO.

Any quotes, tweets or information about some of the recruits last night?

LMAO

Yes they did. And no he will not. Perry is the biggest disappointment in many years at KU thus far.

I never could understand where myths get started.

I don't know where myths get started either, but the post you have quoted is absolutely not a myth.

Anyone who has deemed Ellis to be a failure is pretty much a moron. There's not much more to say than that.

Kaun had 1 good game....that was vs. Davidson

explain...

Reaaaaaly cracks me up that you guys are wanting to give up on a top recruit freshman so early. He will be very good.

Some times I think prison, wicked and Como are all the same person.

Let's not go through this again. You're wrong. Everyone knows you're wrong.

It's called going from high school to a major college program.

Water is wet. The sky is blue.

This is idiotic. You clearly don't remember anything about the development of bigs at KU in the past decade.

The Morii perfected the weak ass power layup, never taking it strong to the hoop and dunking.

No, they didn't.

Failure is such a subjective term. I honestly never saw Perry Ellis play in high school so I can't tell you that I had any real expectations out of him. All I can speak to is his play at KU. He is what he is. Players who log meaningful minutes at Kansas typically are much better than Ellis, regardless of position. Hopefully he gets better.

Perry isn't a typical high schooler. He was a Mickey D and a consensus top-25 recruit. The only 4-time POY in Kansas. A guy who was expected to start day 1. And he's not just having typical FR struggles: he can't catch the ball, can't go up for a layup without being stripped or rejected, looks slow, has zero confidence when he does get it ....... and is just flat surprised by the lateral quickness of defenders at this level.


It may be a problem with his lack of competition in HS but thus far, he looks absolutely terrible. This really can't be denied. Will be turn out ok? He might, I have no idea either way. But let's not sugarcoat his dreadful season.

KU fans...the dumbest

Pretty sure the team has still done pretty well regardless of Ellis' play.

Im a KU fan, these guys are dumb as shit. Perry ellis will be good

he'll be fine

if you want to see highly recruited failures, watch Kentucky, that is a ****ing nuclear melt down with much higher rated recruits....

jesus people need perspective...but KU fans are spoiled to the point of becoming reeruned

You don't think ANY of that has to do with the fact that he got by on superior talent in a weak high school basketball state and then went to a college powerhouse? Really? That shit you just named: trouble with catching & holding onto the ball, stronger players taking the ball, confidence in what he is doing, is no longer the best player on the court by a mile....that is the definition of a freshman.

Ellis will be fine. Will he turn into a great KU player? No idea. But I'm sure he'll be at minimum a serviceable player for KU for at least 2 more years.

Really dumb. Kentucky sucks, but their freshman have outplayed Perry Ellis. And that's what we're talking about here. Don't change the subject by pulling in the rest of their rosters. If Kentucky had Withey & Ben and Travis, they'd be a lot better than we would. Perry < Kentucky FR this year, face it.

Of course their freshman play better than Ellis.

Because they play all of the ****ing time. Giving them more opportunities and experience.

Durrrrrrr.

Or, maybe they're just better players?

Who said they weren't?

Your argument is flawed.

Not to mention they were all the top recruits in their class.....

OHHH really?!? The top 5 star recruits in the country are playing better than the 35th ranked 4 star? You dont say?

their freshman were higher ranked and have been complete ****ing disasters with the exception of noel...harrow, poythress, and goodwin are selfish pouters and their fanbase (and coach, it seems) hate them

there's no problem with ellis, he's going to be fine...and if you've been a KU fan for more than day, you'd know that...

if you thought Ellis was Arthur, that's your fault

Give ellis 10,000 hours of KU basketball experience.

UK Cal wanted Ellis. Badly.

What do these KU players have in common: Withey, Releford, Johnson, Aldrich, D.Jackson, Morningstar? Averaged less than 3 minutes a game their first year.

Why is everyone concerned about Ellis?

Still no word on Randle and Wiggins visit?

Or any other recruits for that matter..

Nail........ Head

Haven't heard anything on Randle yet. I heard Wiggins is set to visit in early March.

Just heard Wiggins will attend WVU game.

Self sitting by Randle before the game...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPL3LGCUAAUr9D.jpg:large

Randle looks at least 43 years old.

Randle gave the kid on the right permission to hide underneath his shirt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPepqNCIAAq917.jpg:large

I heard Greene had to cancel his visit, couldn't get his schedule to work out yesterday.

Brannen Greene -- the guy we already have signed right?

Yeah he had something else going on.

Also heard that Frankamp and Randle sat by each other for a bit last night at the game.

Your complete and utter lack of perspective is astounding.

Get em both. Why not? This is the premiere basketball program in college athletics.

Truth.