Alex Smith turns out to be the father of orphaned baby Belcher. The players refuse to play with him. He is traded for Foles and crates of turf stained used batteries.

I like the Smith trade. But I want a young guy behind him. Foles would be great. some of these guys that are riding the "draft our own qb or Die" program are starting to sound pretty stupid and repetitive. besides there's only 1 guy in the draft that I like this year, Bray.

since I've been watching the draft happenings more closely, there's only been a few QB's that I really wanted the Chiefs to target. Besides top guys like luck and rgIII, of course.

Jimmy Clausen
Colin Kaepernick
Dan LaFevour
Nick Foles
Tyler Bray

speaking of unusual trades I was wondering earlier if we could get a ham sandwich and 1 of those old style window air conditioners with a broken dial out of Cassel.

He will become a FA Viking and Jared will get him hooked on near beer. Divorce and hooker cruises sure to follow.

So WHEN would Philly cut Foles if they were to do so...? They would hang onto him untill the draft at least to see if anyone steps up with any trade offers...right?

For those like me unfamiliar with the 5th QB to be signed by the Eagles....

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/0...-in-g-j-kinne/

The overwhelming majority of headline news that has surrounded the Philadelphia Eagles ever since the conclusion of their horrid 2012 campaign has been regarding the quarterback position.

At first, we were all waiting anxiously for QB Michael Vick to be cut loose, until the Eagles decided to keep him in Philly by restructuring his contract into a one-year deal worth up to $10 million.

Then just when we thought that the Eagles were set at the QB spot, the Birds decided to bring former University of Oregon stud Dennis Dixon aboard. Dixon was a Heisman-hopeful during his senior season at Oregon while current Eagles head coach Chip Kelly lead the Ducks’ spread system as offensive coordinator.

Well, believe it or not, the Eagles have reportedly agreed to terms with former University of Tulsa QB G.J. Kinne, who will be the fifth quarterback on the Eagles’ roster.

In case you have been living under a rock and need a quick Eagles’ QB recap, the Birds are currently housing Vick, Dixon, Nick Foles, Trent Edwards, and Kinne.

Kinne was picked up by the New York Jets as an undrafted free agent following the 2012 NFL Draft, but was cut loose before the season began. Afterwards, Kinne signed on with the Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League, and was most recently a member of the Arena Football League’s San Antonio Talons.

The order of the Eagles’ quarterback depth chart has yet to be officially determined, but I expect Vick to be the starter with Dixon as his primary backup, and Kinne the third-stringer. Foles will more than likely be traded at some point during the 2013 off-season, and Edwards will almost certainly be released.

If Vick is able to produce and stay healthy, he will lead the Eagles for the entire 2013 season. But if Vick is ultimately sidelined for any reason, the Eagles’ next lead signal-caller will be a huge question mark.

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/0...Egwrv2uqMb6.99

QB #6....?


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Mike Garafolo‏@MikeGarafolo

Arizona QB Matt Scott----> RT @Ascent_Sports: eagles are bringing him out for a visit Monday + Bill Lazor is working him out in Cali on 28th

Well, looks like the Eagles are interesting in drafting a QB...too.

Why can't we have like 7 QBs on our roster to pick from?

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2...rizona_qb.html

Eagles to meet with Arizona QB Matt Scott, according to report

Nick Foles might not be the long term answer at quarterback for the Eagles, but maybe another Arizona product is.

Humor me, bitches!

Two condoms walk by a gay bar. One says to the other "Hey, lets go in there and get shit-faced."

Haaaaaaaa that was pretty good.

Brian Westbrook thinks Dennis Dixon will be backup over Nick Foles
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...rian-westbrook

We already acquired our yearly dose of other team's leftovers....Sorry

The deal is not done, until it's done. Then like Brady Quinn? We are done :cuss:

Whats better then 1 teams back up......2

Trade bait...


Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride

Dang, even the owner RT @BleedingGreen Eagles full braintrust in Morgantown to workout Geno Smit hhttp://sbn.to/ZBikzr

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2013/03/1...y-contingency/

"Whatever mistakes Andy Reid made two years ago when constructing the lame-named Dream Team we’re all hoping he’s learned his lessons. One mistake he didn’t make was leaving the QB cupboard bare. Nick Foles may not have stepped in and made a bold take over but, it was obvious to most who watched him that he has a future and consequently there’s been talk of his possibly coming to K.C..

One trade scenario I’ve heard is the Chiefs trading the first overall pick to Philly for the 4th pick + Nick Foles. I’d do that deal without hesitation. The Chiefs would likely be able to get whoever they wanted at number one plus be able to immediately gain a QB who Reid already has a dialog with. Here’s a post I wrote on Nick Foles 14 months ago.

There are so many possible options for improving the Chiefs QB position but, bringing Nick Foles to K.C. seems like a no brainer if all the Chiefs have to do is wait three picks to make their first pick because they will likely still be able get their man."

Nick Foles is not worth the drop from 1 to 4. It better come with another pick on top of it.

I agree.

1st+4th+Foles.

I am reading more and more that Eagles are high on Geno and are affraid the Raiders are going to take him....

They want Geno at #1? If Reid is deadset on getting Foles....then I want their 1st, 2nd, Foles and a pick next year....say a 3rd or 4th.

Not necessarily at #1...they are nervous the raiders will take him at #3, so theoretically they could trade up to #2 assuming we pass on him...

We better not move down with a team that wants a QB for less than full price.

Going from 1 to 4 is a 1200 point difference, basically the 12th overall pick worth of point value.

They would need to give us 4, Foles and next years first to make that deal.

Minimum.

Otherwise, we better just take Geno and go into the season with a "let the best man win" mentality.

Is this with the new rookie-wage scale, or does that not matter?

I think it's more relevant with the new CBA. Before that, people didn't want to trade up to the top 5 because of the ridiculous contracts.

Almost every deal from the 2012 draft used the chart as a guideline...the only ones that didn't had multiple teams interested that caused the cost to rise...like the RG3 trade.

Come on man, what is full price based on?!

We will NOT get the draft chart dictated compensation. It's just not that kind of a draft. There's simply no elite player at the top of the draft. Almost anything in extra picks (or Foles) we get from the Eagles is a bonus. And we still get one of several players that I'm sure the Chiefs hold virtually equal in value. We don't know how hard the Eagles' chubby is for Geno, but if it is even semi hard it's a win win trade for both parties.

And we are NOT taking Geno at the top unless the AS trade was bogus or Geno is drafted to be traded.

Well, When Reid/Dorsey were hired I thought we would have 3 new QB's.
Smith/Foles/Daniels is probably a better outlook than Cassel/Quinn/Stanzi. But probably not THE answer.

This sounds reasonable to me. And their interest in Geno Smith makes sense too. One year of Vick while they groom Geno. And Foles seems to be a square peg in the round hole that's Kelly's system.

Come the **** on, Mensa.

Who gives a **** what Kiper and McShay talk about?

If the Eagles (or another team) want Geno Smith, they are gonna have to pay for the pick.

The real question is if teams want a QB bad enough to ove for him, what do they see that Reid/Dorsey don't?

So it's ok for the Eagles to groom Geno for a year but it isn't ok for us?

:facepalm:

You respond with condescension, yet you haven't earned the right. You obviously don't know the first thing about making deals. It's not only based on supply and demand, but also the degree of the demand.

It's not in black or white. It's not like the Eagles either want Geno or they don't. They may very well want him enough, but not for an arm and a leg.

Every FO thinks different. I'm not in either FO.

:spock:

Yeah, other teams are in it to win it.

The Chiefs obviously aren't.

No. What I meant was FOs evaluates a draft prospect using different parameters. It's true among us. Why shouldn't it be the same among them. You, for example are certain beyond any shadow of doubt that Geno Smith is the next super elite, carry-the-franchise-on-his-shoulders QB. I don't see it. I bet most FOs don't see it that way either. But 'most' does not mean 'all.' And there lies our chance, albeit small, to pull off a trade down.

Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet
Asked if Foles couldve been Chiefs QB under a different situation,Reid: "I had my eyes on Alex when I took the job." Only starter he pursued

Please make it stop

Never.

This quote is a great reminder to us to be careful of what you hope for.
There were a lot of people here that were very happy to get Reid but wanted nothing to with Alex Smith but had no idea Reid wanted Smith.

Also, this is showing us Reid is making some personnel decisions not Dorsey.

I don't know if I would go that far. Reid was hired first, so I'm sure he said to his dear friend John, "Come to Kansas City. We'll acquire Alex Smith and have a grand time."

Just as I'm sure that these 8-10 players he's evaluating at #1 are concurrently being scanned over by Dorsey as well, and anything he strongly opposes is going to get raped.

So did we **** up here? Foles for a 3rd or Alice for 2 2nds?

Im sure they wanted to do it. Chip Kelly really liked the guy. Knowing him from Arizona when he was at Oregon.

He also knew that Vick was fragile.

I'm sure for 2 2nd's he could have been had.

Probably. Im not sure why that trade wasn't made. I would take nick foles over Alex Smith. I wanted the Browns to go after Foles as well.

of course, at that time the Browns didn't have a coach and people wanted him there.

Still down.

He sucks.

Anyone else wonder if they signed Bray as Reid's "new Foles"?

Mother **** you Andy Reid!

I was against a Foles trade.

So, yeah. That happened.

FYP

8 TD performance is happening now

Yeah, I dropped Foles to start McCown today.

I dropped foles and started Russell Wilson.

Not that stupid of an idea. Dont think the Eagles are going to let Foles go though. Theres almost no way hes going to be worse than Alex Smith. How many QBs in the history of the NFL have thrown 7 TDs in a gm. If u can get him for a 3rd rounderyou do Iit no ?s asked.

You realize this thread was made during the offseason...right?

He's going nowhere.

Really?

Yeah...this was a stupid idea.

16 TD's and 0 ints

yeah, we should have traded for Foles damnit! I guess hindsight is always 20/20. But you'd think that Reid would have known that he's that good or maybe he didn't get along with him or something? who knows.

HOLEEEE SHIT.

Balla'

Holy shit that is hilarious. **** the Ravens.

He couldn't beat out Vick to start the season.

didnt they give Vick a huge contract?

Foles is just a good fit in that system. Good for him.


That's gonna be bray next year

The Eagles made a bad choice. Sort of like our Gannon/Grbac.

I really hope so.

Or, circumstances and the players themselves change as seasons progress, especially when you're dealing with young players in their 1st or 2nd year in the league.

It happens all the time that coaches/GMs make the right call given what is known in a given offseason.

I mean, did the Chiefs make the "wrong" decision in not starting Marcus Cooper much earlier in the season?

Good point. Maybe Kaep/Alice would be a better comparison. I think Vick's mobility was likely the deciding factor for Sherman at the time though.

Smith would have to have a really bad stretch of games coming up here, or, a game costing playoff performance, like INTs all over the place, kind of performance, for him not to be the starter next year.

ya, we're gonna have to put up with him for at least 2 more seasons unfortunately. With two, 2nd rounders invested in him, he would have to go full cassel to see the bench. By then, I pray that Bray is ready

Dude.....Tomahawk started a thread about every QB. Go bump your Tyler Wilson one.

Bullshit. If Bray or anyone else gives them a better opportunity for the Superbowl Alice is out. I don't get the impression these guys are scared to cut bait.

As I stated if Bray gets his shit together, he could possibly be the best QB out of the 2013 and 2014 QB class considering his situation being with Reid and Andy's history of making QBs with talent excel.

ROFL Yup. Probably even a Reesing one if we look hard enough.

it was obvious the kid was going to be a good NFL QB, I am just pissed the Eagles and Chip Kelly get to reap the benefits.

it was Andy's pick, should be Andy's QB/credit.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Heh, if talentless,midget, insurance salesman QBs are your thing....Go for it!!

Sure, I expect them to always look. Reid did that even with McNabb, but Smith isn't going to be shown the door just because he doesn't put up stats. Like I said, unless he starts costing them games they aren't changing a thing.

The fact that you give Kaep, the much bigger diva more respect than Alex Smith, who has zero diva in him, is an embarrassment.

Don't twist this observation as a sign that i don't respect you as a poster.

I do, but that's hilarious to me.

Do you see how bad Kap is?

The support system that is going to help him excel is soooooo much deeper than that.

Ault, Childress, Nagy, Andy, Daniel, Alex Smith, Pederson.

That is a LOT of offensive minds that understand the qb position.

I get goose bumps thinking of the greatness that will be TYLER BRAY.