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Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 05:48 PM

The Film Room bringing the pain.

http://echointhehead.blogspot.com/20....html?spref=tw

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Who is Alex Smith?

Since 2005 up until a week ago I could care less to answer that question. He was a QB that San Francisco allowed to be pursued by the Dolphins...who ended up taking Tannehill instead. He was a QB that took his team to the front door of the Super Bowl, and a back-up to a QB that kicked the door in the next season.

Did you ever really want Alex Smith last year...did Miami...did San Fran? The answer is no...two teams passed...not for Manning, not for RG3, not for Luck...two teams passed for Tannehill and Kaepernick. Up until a week ago...how badly did you want Alex Smith?

San Fran and Miami worked Smith out, was up close and personal...the Chiefs made this choice at a time when they could have no contact. Smith was never an Eagle...he was never a Packer...if this choice is that important...get him in a room.

Sure Reid has contacts...but why choose a QB...a QB two teams passed on...without checking it out for yourself?

The stats lie...sure Smith's %'s and rating increased under Harbaugh...but his usage decreased. The two years under Harbaugh...San Fran ranked 31st in the NFL in pass attempts. San Fran was defined by defense and the power game.

The thing that bothers me about this situation. Reid's offense is dependent on the Quarterback to make plays. Even under Harbaugh...while Smith's rating increased...the TD's, the yardage really didn't. All indications do not point to an improved QB...points to an improved scheme to mask the QB.

The biggest issue with Smith is the lack of understanding where the numbers come from. The INT's decreased...the rating rose...but the sacks he took nearly doubled. This particular change is reflected in the rating...he didn't improve as a passer...he simply stopped making mistakes.

Make no mistake...we didn't get a good QB...we got the same QB by and large that was on the open market that few were clamoring for. We got a QB that has learned how to not make mistakes, in an offense that didn't ask him to throw much. That situation has changed...and it's important.

This isn't a brilliant move by Dorsey and Reid...it's a safe one. The film has been out for years...there is no re-writing Alex Smith's history. He's marginally better than we've had, and he's a vet with success...but he's not special.

People act like I'm not supposed to question...but in my heart...this move isn't one I can grip. I hope it works out, but I think it's a safe move...not the best move for the Kansas City Chiefs.

youranidiot 02-28-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452140)

Have you come to grips with it yet: Alex Smith #11 Chiefs starting QB!

MGRS13 02-28-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452096)
They're terrible, obviously.

The point of the argument that Smith's best is no better, and in fact worse in several ways, than Cassel's best.

This! The trade off is he is not as tough as Cassel so we won't have to watch him flounder for long. Who ever the backup is in KC will probably play 3 to 5 games next year. All we can do now is hope that backup is some one drafted with the 3rd pick this year and happens to be good.

Hammock Parties 02-28-2013 09:38 PM

Here's a bone-chilling fact:

The 49ers have been no higher than 25th in third-down conversion percentage for Alex Smith's entire career.

32nd
26th
32nd
29th
29th
31st
25th

moveoveralex 03-01-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452927)
Here's a bone-chilling fact:

The 49ers have been no higher than 25th in third-down conversion percentage for Alex Smith's entire career.

32nd
26th
32nd
29th
29th
31st
25th



Exactly why so many niner fans were hoping he would be gone a long time ago.

That stat did NOT improve much under Harbaugh. The niners won a LOT of games last year thanks to the leg of David Akers. He set the record for field-goals last year. We won a TON of games scoring in the teens and having our D get turnovers. We had one of the highest turnover ratios ever recorded last year.

Alex didn't lose us games. THAT is the point. We relied on special teams, defense and not turning the ball over to get to the championship game. It was when we got down big/early that the true Alex showed. He is not capable of overcoming big deficits. His third down percentage is low because he is so afraid of making a bad throw that he immediatly goes to the checkdown if the first read is covered.

Alex has never been accurate on his second reads. If he has to move in the pocket he loses sight of the field. He panicks. He doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field.

If not for Vernon Davis, we would have not even made the playoffs. Alex can hit the wheel route like nobody else, but the reason it worked so well for the niners is Davis' speed. He's the fastest TE in the NFL. Alex will NOT make those throws to your TEs unless they are WIDE open.

He completed 1 pass....................ONE PASS to a wr in the NFCCG last year. He reverted to captain checkdown in the biggest game of his career.


I don't hate the guy, but I am very happy he's gone.


I'm just trying to prepare you guys for what is coming. Your punter will become the MVP of the team. If your defense can get turnovers and your special-teams units can score some points you have a chance at the playoffs, but you will never win a SB with Alex Smith.

moveoveralex 03-01-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ratchet (Post 9452070)
U can't say he's horrible. No professional or player in nfl thinks he sucks. Just be rational and admit he's decent. that's all we're saying. He's just good. Not great.

He's good under certain circumstances. He's downright terrible in others.


He can read defenses very well at the LOS, but once the first read breaks down, he becomes very inaccurate. He will force your WR to make some circus catches across the middle. He can't throw deep with any accuracy. He will have a play or two ever game that makes the entire stadium stand up and say WTF??????


Some people here likened him to AIDS. I disagree. He won't kill you. He's more like herpes. It sticks around forever and can be an embarassing discomfort at the worst possible time.



He does have some great qualities, but his limitations are what will keep the Chiefs from getting to the SB. Andy Reid will NOT be able to get Smith to win games. You will rely on the D and Special teams to win most of them. If you can hold the opponent under 20 and get a couple turnovers, you will win with ALex.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-01-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 9451639)
I for damn sure ready to bet on will of the fans here on ChiefsPlanet, any day, over that of a respected, successful, 15 year NFL coach.

yep, pay NO attention to history.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 03-01-2013 11:07 AM

goddamn Clay; you are just killing that asshole. Sweet jesus they better take a QB at one...
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Frosty 03-01-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by moveoveralex (Post 9454081)
Some people here likened him to AIDS. I disagree. He won't kill you. He's more like herpes. It sticks around forever and can be an embarassing discomfort at the worst possible time.

LMAO

Great - we contracted herpes and paid a couple of premium picks for the privilege.

bevischief 03-01-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by moveoveralex (Post 9454081)
He's good under certain circumstances. He's downright terrible in others.


He can read defenses very well at the LOS, but once the first read breaks down, he becomes very inaccurate. He will force your WR to make some circus catches across the middle. He can't throw deep with any accuracy. He will have a play or two ever game that makes the entire stadium stand up and say WTF??????


Some people here likened him to AIDS. I disagree. He won't kill you. He's more like herpes. It sticks around forever and can be an embarassing discomfort at the worst possible time.



He does have some great qualities, but his limitations are what will keep the Chiefs from getting to the SB. Andy Reid will NOT be able to get Smith to win games. You will rely on the D and Special teams to win most of them. If you can hold the opponent under 20 and get a couple turnovers, you will win with ALex.

Cassel 1.5

Setsuna 03-01-2013 01:19 PM

I nominate moveoveralex for n00b of 2013!!

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-01-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna (Post 9454621)
I nominate moveoveralex for n00b of 2013!!

YOU dont get to nominate a GAT damned thing.
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Dixie Land 03-01-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9452061)
And if Alex Smith was a rookie QB, we'd give him time to show he could improve, too.

He isn't. And he won't.

We're stuck with a douchebag who can't throw the ball down the field.

Sure he can, he can roll right and throw to the guy in the BLACK TRENCH COAT who is standing out of bounds...

Smith is a spoiled little rich bich with a noodle arm that complains bout this and that and the other.....

He will not pan out...:rolleyes:

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9454227)
LMAO

Great - we contracted herpes and paid a couple of premium picks for the privilege.

HAHAHAAHA......well hopefully he will get injured and then Tebow will beat him out....sounds vaguely familiar.....wow what a hope...:#

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9452093)
Do you have the same splits for Cassel over 2011 and 2012? Can't imagine that they are very good but am curious.

Hey Casshole had more yards and TD's WTF?????

I think I am starting to hate this team....First we get a Dog Killer Lover Coach then a 49ers retread QB for the umpteenth time...WTF is the Front Office doing? Trying to fend off having fans???? No Fans no job idiots....:eek:

Molitoth 03-01-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by moveoveralex (Post 9454059)
Exactly why so many niner fans were hoping he would be gone a long time ago.

That stat did NOT improve much under Harbaugh. The niners won a LOT of games last year thanks to the leg of David Akers. He set the record for field-goals last year. We won a TON of games scoring in the teens and having our D get turnovers. We had one of the highest turnover ratios ever recorded last year.

Alex didn't lose us games. THAT is the point. We relied on special teams, defense and not turning the ball over to get to the championship game. It was when we got down big/early that the true Alex showed. He is not capable of overcoming big deficits. His third down percentage is low because he is so afraid of making a bad throw that he immediatly goes to the checkdown if the first read is covered.

Alex has never been accurate on his second reads. If he has to move in the pocket he loses sight of the field. He panicks. He doesn't have the arm strength to stretch the field.

If not for Vernon Davis, we would have not even made the playoffs. Alex can hit the wheel route like nobody else, but the reason it worked so well for the niners is Davis' speed. He's the fastest TE in the NFL. Alex will NOT make those throws to your TEs unless they are WIDE open.

He completed 1 pass....................ONE PASS to a wr in the NFCCG last year. He reverted to captain checkdown in the biggest game of his career.


I don't hate the guy, but I am very happy he's gone.


I'm just trying to prepare you guys for what is coming. Your punter will become the MVP of the team. If your defense can get turnovers and your special-teams units can score some points you have a chance at the playoffs, but you will never win a SB with Alex Smith.

hey, it's a 49er fan that is here speaking it like it is instead of shoving rainbow suckers up our asses telling us it will be okay because it's "better than Cassel" and "He's a good leader and a great guy!".

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 03:13 PM

"alex smith was blameless in the NFC Championship game"

http://i.imgur.com/ra6EgCH.gif

FYI, check out EVERYONE running a short pattern because the QB sucks, WE'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.

http://i.imgur.com/li5BeiF.gif

http://i.imgur.com/506vn7G.jpg

And check out this very Cassel moment.

http://i.imgur.com/PsEmYYA.gif

http://i.imgur.com/j609Opb.jpg

ViperVisor 03-01-2013 04:10 PM

i.imgur.com/cO0DY.jpg
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Fat Elvis 03-01-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9452054)
JFC I'm done hearing about how Alex Smith is an asshole because he went 1/14 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season.

WTF about Geno Smith? That mother****er went 0/10 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season and nobody says a ****ing word about it.

Don't be dissing on Geno "Black Jesus 2.0" Smith on this board.

Geno, with two NFL caliber receivers, completely dominated the 123rd ranked scoring defense in week one.

He kicked the living crap out of a defense so completely in week two that they weren't even ranked at all.

He showed true grit in week three when he defeated and demoralized a mighty Maryland team that was ranked 56th in scoring defense.

You want a QB that can go head to head in a shoot out? Look no further than what Geno did in week four as he took apart a mighty Baylor defense ranked in the top 113 in scoring defense.

Geno really showed his mettle as he was seemingly unstoppable against the 74th ranked scoring defense in week five.

Smith is such the master of the passing game he was able to hang 14 points on the unmovable wall of the 92nd ranked scoring defense in week six.

As any Jayhawk fan will tell you, the guys in purple are cheaters, plain and simple; that is the only way to explain how they managed to field a 28th ranked scoring defense this past year--yet Geno dismantled them and UWV scored an impressive 14 points in week seven.

Every QB experiences heartbreak at least once in his career, and Geno knows the heartbreak of losing in OT to the 30th ranked scoring defense in week eight.

Geno would have sweet, sweet redemption in week nine against the 64th ranked scoring defense in week nine. Or maybe not.

Realistic expectations at this point in the season should prevail; no one should expect Geno to win against the 50th ranked scoring defense in week ten.

All hail Geno! All hail Geno! Franchise Savior! Overcoming the greatest of odds, Black Geno 2.0 shows us the light and triumphs over the 38th ranked scoring defense in the nation in week eleven.

The curtain is coming to a close and Sweet Geno puts on a show for the ages against a daunting scoring defense ranked 112th in the nation.

I wonder why ESPN isn't GenoSPN all day and all night.

For a final encore in this illustrious season, the Face of a Franchise proclaims his glory and cements his legend as destroys the 46th ranked scoring defense in the PinStripe Bowl with a 14 point performance.

How can you question Geno? How can you not believe that someone with wins over the 123rd, 113th, 112th, 74th, 56th and 38th ranked scoring defenses might not be the franchise QB that every desperate bulletin board fan says he is?

Alas, you doubt too much...and for nary a reason. Overcoming the 92nd, 64th, 50th, 46th, 30th and 28th ranked scoring defenses is too much for anyone to expect of the Lord of the Pass.

Oh Geno, my Geno....

(Scoring defense rankings compiled from: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...a-mountaineers )

keg in kc 03-01-2013 04:30 PM

So wait, something about Geno Smith somehow means Alex Smith doesn't completely suck? Okay, then.

/backs slowly out of thread

Thig Lyfe 03-01-2013 04:39 PM

Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

Fat Elvis 03-01-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9455260)
So wait, something about Geno Smith somehow means Alex Smith doesn't completely suck? Okay, then.

/backs slowly out of thread

No. It means we're the Chiefs and we will never get a decent QB. Doesn't matter who it is; if you are a QB and you are associated with the Chiefs (sans Dawson) you suck. You might be great somewhere else, but while you are here or are coming here, you suck.

DeezNutz 03-01-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9455301)
Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

Right.

First decent game he plays, never mind good, and there will be demands for apology threads all over the place. Then, when the sample size becomes large enough and it's proven beyond a shadow a doubt that he sucks, we can start this process all over again.

Looking forward to our next backup starter.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 04:43 PM

This is quickly becoming the Declaration of Independence, MO, Part II.

Alex Smith's record when the 49ers ran for less than 100 yards:

2012: 0-2
2011: 3-3

Cannibal 03-01-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455316)
This is quickly becoming the Declaration of Independence, MO, Part II.

Alex Smith's record when the 49ers ran for less than 100 yards:

2012: 3-3
2011: 0-2

Can we at least give a season of production in KC before you make a Declaration of Independence and break out banners and shit?

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9455320)
Can we at least give a season of production in KC before you make a Declaration of Independence and break out banners and shit?

We're already tracking the suck that is Alex Smith in this very thread, so no.

Can't wait for the first preseason game!

In an effort to be fair to Alex, no pre-Harbaugh GIFs will be created.

Setsuna 03-01-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9454910)
YOU dont get to nominate a GAT damned thing.
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:LOL::dom:nlmrochambeau

I'll pledge to dislike that poser 100 times over. Count me in!

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9455301)
Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

It WAS a good trade for THEM!!! :clap::deevee:

Cannibal 03-01-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455327)
We're already tracking the suck that is Alex Smith in this very thread, so no.

Can't wait for the first preseason game!

In an effort to be fair to Alex, no pre-Harbaugh GIFs will be created.

I wanted to draft a QB too, but **** it lets roll with this and see what we have with Reid pulling the strings. I'll be right there with you with the torches and pitch forks if they fail.

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455316)
This is quickly becoming the Declaration of Independence, MO, Part II.

Alex Smith's record when the 49ers ran for less than 100 yards:

2012: 0-2
2011: 3-3

Yes can't win when behind, can't win without running.....so lets see, what is left....???? OH Crap : Losing....

49er retread alley....

Long season ahead..

:$2500:

Thig Lyfe 03-01-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455316)
This is quickly becoming the Declaration of Independence, MO, Part II.

Alex Smith's record when the 49ers ran for less than 100 yards:

2012: 0-2
2011: 3-3

This is like if we won the Revolutionary War and overthrew King George but accidentally elected Time-Traveling Hitler From The Future as our first president.

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9455332)
I wanted to draft a QB too, but **** it lets roll with this and see what we have with Reid pulling the strings. I'll be right there with you with the torches and pitch forks if they fail.

Personally don't want to roll with this,,,we should strike the Chiefs headquarters...with picket signs and everything...all the fans....NO MORE RETREADS NO MORE RETREADS....

43214321

Cannibal 03-01-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9455340)
Personally don't want to roll with this,,,we should strike the Chiefs headquarters...with picket signs and everything...all the fans....NO MORE RETREADS NO MORE RETREADS....

43214321

You guys need to get your panties extracted from your cracks.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-01-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9455301)
Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

I pledge alliegance to the hate, of the god-forsaken retread that is Alex Smith, and to the true fannery for which he stands, dated, annoying as ****, and hopefully slagged from above, when the home opening flyover forgets to remove ordinance from the bomber. Amen.
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Setsuna 03-01-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9455390)
I pledge alliegance to the hate, of the god-forsaken retread that is Alex Smith, and to the true fannery for which he stands, dated, annoying as ****, and hopefully slagged from above, when the home opening flyover forgets to remove ordinance from the bomber. Amen.
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:clap: This should be a requirement in everyone's sig who's on board.

Internet Tough Guy 03-01-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9455301)
Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

Lol if we are so lucky to reach 9-7 next year ill be amazed... 49ers 2-14 year they didnt do well at all following the year after that, ironic it was with alex.. And Detroits 2-14 year they havent touched the playoffs and actually did terrible last year despite megatron breaking the yardage record...

If we go 9-7 and you want people to still hate alex. well then you just sound like a crazy ex girlfriend or in your case boyfriend that will hate the guy no matter what.... and if peyton gets hurts, shoot we might even make it into the playoffs at 9-7 with our division the way it is.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-01-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9452054)
JFC I'm done hearing about how Alex Smith is an asshole because he went 1/14 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season.

WTF about Geno Smith? That mother****er went 0/10 on 3rd down in his biggest game of the season and nobody says a ****ing word about it.

Nassib blows

TribalElder 03-01-2013 05:56 PM

Why the **** did we have to do this to Our team.

This is so fail it kills me inside

9erAkbar 03-01-2013 06:16 PM

Lifelong Niner fan here and I thought I should drop in and let you know about Alex. The dude is an average QB at best, you guys really got boned hard in this trade if everything said is true. Be ready for consistent check down passes because he does not have confidence and balls to throw the balls down field. Also be ready for leading the league in sacks because he will take sacks when everything breaks down. I truly feel sorry for you guys if Andy Ried has hooked his wagon to Alex. You guys better have an awesome defense and special teams because if EVERYTHING is not perfect then he cant get the job done.

But as a niner fan I am absolutely stoked about this trade. Thank you Andy Ried for taking him and giving us some good draft picks.

PHOG 03-01-2013 06:22 PM

They're taking Geno 1.1

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 9erAkbar (Post 9455527)
Lifelong Niner fan here and I thought I should drop in and let you know about Alex. The dude is an average QB at best, you guys really got boned hard in this trade if everything said is true. Be ready for consistent check down passes because he does not have confidence and balls to throw the balls down field. Also be ready for leading the league in sacks because he will take sacks when everything breaks down. I truly feel sorry for you guys if Andy Ried has hooked his wagon to Alex. You guys better have an awesome defense and special teams because if EVERYTHING is not perfect then he cant get the job done.

But as a niner fan I am absolutely stoked about this trade. Thank you Andy Ried for taking him and giving us some good draft picks.

Please send us more 49ers fans.

Dylan 03-01-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9455340)
Personally don't want to roll with this,,,we should strike the Chiefs headquarters...with picket signs and everything...all the fans....NO MORE RETREADS NO MORE RETREADS....

43214321

"Speak now or forever hold your peace"

Andy Reid just might regret taking the job.

KCTitus 03-01-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9455332)
I wanted to draft a QB too, but **** it lets roll with this and see what we have with Reid pulling the strings. I'll be right there with you with the torches and pitch forks if they fail.

LOL...Cannibal! Of all people I figured to be on the 'doom and gloom' train...

You must be mellowing in your old age. ;)

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 9erAkbar (Post 9455527)
Lifelong Niner fan here and I thought I should drop in and let you know about Alex. The dude is an average QB at best, you guys really got boned hard in this trade if everything said is true. Be ready for consistent check down passes because he does not have confidence and balls to throw the balls down field. Also be ready for leading the league in sacks because he will take sacks when everything breaks down. I truly feel sorry for you guys if Andy Ried has hooked his wagon to Alex. You guys better have an awesome defense and special teams because if EVERYTHING is not perfect then he cant get the job done.

But as a niner fan I am absolutely stoked about this trade. Thank you Andy Ried for taking him and giving us some good draft picks.

This is bleak....WTF???? I wouldn't doubt Andy Reid got paid off for this....rigged!!!! 49ers are stoked they got rid of dead wood and got great draft picks....OMG.....:shake:

prhom 03-01-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9455301)
Everybody needs to pledge right here and now that they'll still hate Alex Smith even if he puts together a mediocre 9-7 season or whatever bullshit will convince morons that this was a good trade.

I can't think of a single player that will have encountered so much hate before he plays a single down. As much as Geno would have received the benefit of the doubt from me, Alex Smith will have to be perfect in nearly every phase for me to give him props.

He will have to carry the team when the running game isn't working. He will have to make plays late in the game when we need good play from the QB. He can't get us in a hole early by turning the ball over. He will have to stretch the field with deep passes to help loosen up the defense for the run game.

I'm not going to give him a pass because he did not lose the game for us, he must be the one that wins it when no one else steps up. He has to do that all season or I'm not going to give him any apology.

Anything less than this and we should be looking for his replacement. Hell, we should be looking for that anyway. I'm being realistic though, we aren't going to take anyone capable of competing with him this season.

RunKC 03-01-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9455473)
Nassib blows

Still better than Geno.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 9455931)
I can't think of a single player that will have encountered so much hate before he plays a single down.

It's because Alex Smith basically already played for this team the last 4 seasons.

bowener 03-01-2013 09:41 PM

Maybe Reid traded for Alex Smith BECAUSE he was such a good teammate and accepted his role as backup and teacher to Kap. Maybe Reid want's him to do the same for Geno.

This is my sunshine and rainbows dream. Also in this dream we swap 2nds with SF and get a 4th or some shit... idk.

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9455876)
This is bleak....WTF???? I wouldn't doubt Andy Reid got paid off for this....rigged!!!! 49ers are stoked they got rid of dead wood and got great draft picks....OMG.....:shake:

I second that. Did you know Kaepernick came in on key redzone situations earlier in the season before Smith went down?

Why?

Because we couldn't score for shit with Smith in there!

Smith made his money on play action passes with 8 men in the box to stop Gore. He is no good when the onus is on him to make the play. He'll just check it down or take a sack. I hope you have a great punter. There will be a lot of three and outs. Thank god we had Andy Lee, one of the best punters in the league who put our defense in good positions despite poor offensive play.

hometeam 03-01-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9455989)
I second that. Did you know Kaepernick came in on key redzone situations earlier in the season before Smith went down?

Why?

Because we couldn't score for shit with Smith in there!

Smith made his money on play action passes with 8 men in the box to stop Gore. He is no good when the onus is on him to make the play. He'll just check it down or take a sack. I hope you have a great punter. There will be a lot of three and outs. Thank god we had Andy Lee, one of the best punters in the league who put our defense in good positions despite poor offensive play.

We do. He has LOTS of practice.

BigMeatballDave 03-01-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455939)
It's because Alex Smith basically already played for this team the last 4 seasons.


prhom 03-01-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9455939)
It's because Alex Smith basically already played for this team the last 4 seasons.

Oh I agree completely. This trade for A Smith ruined my week. I'm right there with the haters. He's going to have to be league MVP before I'm ok with this trade. As I said, he gets zero benefit of the doubt.

BigMeatballDave 03-01-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9455938)
Still better than Geno.

LMAO

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9455997)
We do. He has LOTS of practice.

niceeee.

The punter will be earning his paycheck with Captain Checkdown at the helm.

That is what those of us with football sense called Smith back in SF.

ThaVirus 03-01-2013 10:03 PM

Captain Checkdown is Matt Cassel.

He's in sole possession of that distinctive award.

hometeam 03-01-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456023)
niceeee.

The punter will be earning his paycheck with Captain Checkdown at the helm.

That is what those of us with football sense called Smith back in SF.

Are you sure your not a KC fan?

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9456028)
Captain Checkdown is Matt Cassel.

He's in sole possession of that distinctive award.

Alex Smith throws the ball short more than Cassel.

We have no idea what we're getting into.

ThaVirus 03-01-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456033)
Alex Smith throws the ball short more than Cassel.

We have no idea what we're getting into.

Dear, God, WHAT HAVE WE DONE!?

hometeam 03-01-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456033)
Alex Smith throws the ball short more than Cassel.

We have no idea what we're getting into.

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Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:16 PM

Alex Smith, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2011/2012:

73.3% (486 total)

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2010:

64.4%

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, Chiefs career:

65.8 % (980 total)

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9456030)
Are you sure your not a KC fan?

I promise. I'm a niner fan here to air my grievences and provide insight into alex smith.

We are not allowed to talk negatively about his highness lord Smith in ninerland.

Ask me anything about him.

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456047)
Alex Smith, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2011/2012:

73.3% (486 total)

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2010:

64.4%

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, Chiefs career:

65.8 % (980 total)

ALL HAIL THE REAL CAPTAIN HAS ARRIVED

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456050)
Ask me anything about him.

Why is his career high only 17 TD passes?

hometeam 03-01-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456047)
Alex Smith, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2011/2012:

73.3% (486 total)

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, 2010:

64.4%

Matt Cassel, percentage of throws under 10 yards, Chiefs career:

65.8 % (980 total)


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Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456055)
Why is his career high only 17 TD passes?

Many will say he has had bad WR core. I don't buy it. Brady was successful with scrubs early in his career and so have other good QBs.

My take is he is really cautious and in the NFL, to score TDs, you have to throw into tight coverage on time.

One, he is not confident in his arm, which is slightly above average at best so he is not going to fit throws into tight spots on a regular basis. This will kill you in the redzone and scoring ranges when those windows shrink due to the field shrinking.

Two, he gets rattled easy and has little pocket presence. MEaning, the timing will be off because he is not good at sliding around in the pocket and sensing pressure. He will have "happy feet" and sometimes feel pressure that isn't there. So this will throw off all the timing and he will just check it down. Thus, high completion percentage, low yards, low ints, low tds and high QBR.

Think about it. Last year the niners had a historical defense ad special teams and he mustered only 17TDs. Daid Akers broke the NFL record for most FGs in a season. that pretty much sums it up right there.

If i could post images and vids id show you examples but i'm only a rookie here.

keg in kc 03-01-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9456028)
Captain Checkdown is Matt Cassel.

He's in sole possession of that distinctive award.

That's only because Alex Smith is Major General Checkdown.

hometeam 03-01-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456062)
Many will say he has had bad WR core. I don't buy it. Brady was successful with scrubs early in his career and so have other good QBs.

My take is he is really cautious and in the NFL, to score TDs, you have to throw into tight coverage on time.

One, he is not confident in his arm, which is slightly above average at best so he is not going to fit throws into tight spots on a regular basis. This will kill you in the redzone and scoring ranges when those windows shrink due to the field shrinking.

Two, he gets rattled easy and has little pocket presence. MEaning, the timing will be off because he is not good at sliding around in the pocket and sensing pressure. He will have "happy feet" and sometimes feel pressure that isn't there. So this will throw off all the timing and he will just check it down. Thus, high completion percentage, low yards, low ints, low tds and high QBR.

If i could post images and vids id show you examples but i'm only a rookie here.

Its like ****ing groundhog day.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456062)
If i could post images and vids id show you examples but i'm only a rookie here.

Link to them, and take out the http://

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9456066)
That's only because Alex Smith is Major General Checkdown.

Yup. Your RBs and TEs are going to love it.

Your WRs and 3rd down completion percentage is going to hate it.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456070)
Yup. Your RBs and TEs are going to love it.

Your WRs and 3rd down completion percentage is going to hate it.

49ers fans warning us of the impending doom of Alex Smith is beautiful. We never had any gracious Pats fans like this. It was all just a bunch of dreck about how great Casshole was. You provide an insanely valuable service to us. Please stay.

Ming the Merciless 03-01-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456062)
i'm only a rookie here.

You are already a demi-god to me

http://picsthatdontsuck.com/img/creepy-stare-meme.jpg

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456068)
Link to them, and take out the


I can't figure it out. It keeps saying naw.

But google 12/11/2011 49ers vs. Arizona. Go to the nfl website link and watch gameday highlights and forward to 2:48 of the video.

The game is on the line with a 4th down.

There are multiple pass catchers open and Alex smith senses pressure which is not there....The rest is just....

Also, that pass was an overthrow, The RB Hunter made a diving attempt but it was out of reach. Deoin and the candy crew announcers got it wrong, as usualy

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456071)
49ers fans warning us of the impending doom of Alex Smith is beautiful. We never had any gracious Pats fans like this. It was all just a bunch of dreck about how great Casshole was. You provide an insanely valuable service to us. Please stay.

Yeah in the last 8 years our third down percentage has been bottom barrel. The only time it became middle of the road was when Shaun Hill stepped in when smith broke his collarbone.

SHAUN HILL

He was essentially beat out by JT O Sullivan (who?) due to that injury and also benched for Troy Smith at one point. I remember Trent Dilfer coming in at some point due to an injury but I think my brain blocked out that traumatic experience.

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456090)
Yeah in the last 8 years our third down percentage has been bottom barrel. The only time it became middle of the road was when Shaun Hill stepped in when smith broke his collarbone.

We've been discussing that in this very thread. ROFL

Smith2Bench 03-01-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456104)
We've been discussing that in this very thread. ROFL

Yup. Has the 5 yard passes on 3rd and 10 been brought up?

Hammock Parties 03-01-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456112)
Yup. Has the 5 yard passes on 3rd and 10 been brought up?

Not especially. Go ahead, sir.

Dixie Land 03-01-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9456070)
Yup. Your RBs and TEs are going to love it.

Your WRs and 3rd down completion percentage is going to hate it.

Us fans will hate it!!! After watching some footage of Alex even when he is on he stares down the receiver, throws stiffly off his front leg....gadz mechanical...not fluid....after 8 years still bad throwing mechanics...Smith is atrocious and a horrible deal a second rounder OMG:shake:

RunKC 03-01-2013 10:55 PM

Clearly Clayton missed this...how could he since he's determining numbers all day to say Alex Smith sucks?

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Dixie Land 03-01-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9456071)
49ers fans warning us of the impending doom of Alex Smith is beautiful. We never had any gracious Pats fans like this. It was all just a bunch of dreck about how great Casshole was. You provide an insanely valuable service to us. Please stay.

They just feel sorry the Chiefs fans were fed this BS...First a DogKillerLovin Coach that stunk it up in Philly, then Alex friggin Smith...what an armpit of doom....:reaper:

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-01-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9456118)
Clearly Clayton missed this...how could he since he's determining numbers all day to say Alex Smith sucks?

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