Yes, I'm sure there are a couple exceptions.

Or Jeffery Dahmer's father.

Ban dog owners who don't have a ****ing clue how to raise or train a dog.

I'm not for banning breeds, but man do I hate those ****ing dogs. Or maybe it's just pitbull owners. Or maybe it's bud light commercials

nothing wrong with Pitts at all. any animal can be turned into a viscious animal.

Got to a Pet Store (not directed to anyone here specfici etc) when they have Pitt Bull adoptions. Some of the sweetest dogs I've ever met.
They get a huge bad rap from the media.

Years ago it was the Rottweiler. Before that, Dobermans.

Investigate for yourself before jumping on board with the media hype/scare tactics.

How many Dachshunds or terriers killed a small child in.....oh.....the last 200 years?

Goddamn assault dogs...

Remember, if they're owned by the government, they're personal defense dogs.

Now Dammit.

It wasn't that long ago I could have made 1 of the posts I've made in this thread and picked a good brawl for the entire weekend.

Let me try again.

Cats should be fed to pit bulls.

I don't have a dog in this fight, so I decided to do a little research and see if pit bulls are more likely to be vicious than other dogs. I found this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States .

http://i48.tinypic.com/of3nn4.jpg

Interesting.

This obviously proves nothing regarding what breed of dog is more likely to be vicious. But it does appear that one breed of dog does most of the killing.

I can't really argue that one...

Most dogs are breed for a purpose. Why ban dog breeds because certain individuals can not understand the purpose of their dog? Pit bulls are a very physicaly strong breed intended for fighting, baiting, catching, herding and protecting, they are not meant to be appartment pets.

So why not ban people from having pit bulls as apartment pets?

This breed used to be a babysitter breed of dog. It's a shame idiots have ruined it for the most part.

Simple really. Owners of dogs should be held criminally liable for any attacks they make on others. Period. If you own a pitbull and it freaks out and kills my toddler, then you should have legal liability. Where that line is drawn and what the penalties are, is up for reasonable debate.


But this notion that dog owners just throw their hands up in the air and say "Nuttin I can do about it, sorry brah!" is nonsense. If a pitbull owner ever had his dog kill my son, I'm putting a bullet in the dog's skull and a bullet in the owner's leg.

Wow,... baby sitter to baby eater.

:LOL:

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I had a buddy who had a couple of German Shepherds. They killed his cat. Just ripped it in two.

Yeah, every breed has certain subtle differences in their characteristics. But on the basic, primal level, canines are canines.

Uh.....Bichon Frise?

Good point. I don't believe there is any total proactive solution to solve dog attacks. My use of apartment pets does not relay what I'm trying to say. I do believe that a small dog breed would be less likely to kill someone if it attacked. Pit bulls where breed to be strong attackers ( see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull ). Their attended prey would generally be larger than that of a smaller breed. I do not mean the pit bull is more likely to attack. I simply think that the result of a pit bull attack would be more damaging than most dog breeds. If you are going to own a dog of any kind there is always a chance that it could attack someone or something.

Dacchsunds have a vicious streak a mile wide. It's the most foul tempered dog you're ever set eyes on. It's a killer.

Chiefs Planet would be a ghost town.

No what it proves is what breed of dog is being exploited, bred and trained by the lowest rungs of humanity to be vicious.

Let's be honest here for a bit; take a bunch of small dicked jackasses and tell them that owning a pit bull will make them tough and you get bunch of jackasses breeding these dogs to be what these other small dicked jackasses want. So now we have jackasses warping and manipulating a certain breed of dog to sell to other jackasses. This is the problem, not the dog per se but what has happened to the bred over time.

Let's pretend that by some stroke all pit bulls are gone, no longer here. What's next? Do we get a stories of vicious rotties and that this breed must be banned!

Killed probably not. Bitten, probably more than is ever reported. My nieghboor's min-pin is vicious and tries to gnaw my ankle off almost every time I see him.

Agreed. :thumb:

Want me to throw them off my lot?

You do know that I was including both you and me in that statement? :D

lol.... well my sacasm meter tend to work better on CP!!!
:thumb:

Allowing stupid people to breed should be banned. Perhaps we should ban cars so drunk drivers won't kill more people than pitbulls and guns.

Lil Poopy owns a pit bull

Me too... I hope someone can tell us

You corner, kick or try to hurt my aussies they will bite at you in attempt to get away from you.

If you are mean to them they will not like you... IF you are sweet to them they will be your best buddy... And one of them has an allergy problem. she will sneeze on you.

My Aussies and Boarder Collie have killed a squirrel before... They will wait and wait for those little tree rats to hit the ground... Wait until its between trees, then the chase is on...

sometimes the squirrel wins, something the doggies win...

Yep, our black lab would happily kill any animal smaller than her without a second thought. Luckily she is too slow and lazy to really pose much of a threat.

Your first post failed! Supposed to be "your and idiot". Planet standards from way back.

People are going to believe what they want. I was wary of Pit Bulls too, until my wife insisted we adopt one (I was gone quite a bit). My mind was changed forever. That dog was my animal friend for 12 years, and hands down the best dog I have ever owned and it isnt even close. Highly intelligent, never barked, well behaved, never chewed on anything not offered him, gentle with children and slept for three weeks with my 75 year old arthritic mom in her bed. He'd whimper if she left the house...yes he was strong as hell and could bite through a car's tire- but bottom line he only wanted to please.

I posted the link below earlier in this thread, but this is worth checking out.

http://dontbullymybreed.org/

The thread title is so ignorant I thought for sure this was going to be a joke thread. Still not sure if trolling...

Combine improver training, with being tied up to a chain 24/7 and you would go crazy...I've been around numerous Argentino dogos down in Texas and they have been protected of the young kids.

There are simple, basic rules that people should follow with all dogs, such as never leaving an infant or toddler alone with any dog, and never keeping a dog as a pet if it's not one you could take down if you needed to. If people can't follow these types of rules, the dog breed is going to be irrelevant except for the final amount of damage, because you're just playing the odds at that point.

People follow icons, not logic.

If they knew that German Shepherds were more aggressive, more lethal, they wouldn't be talking about Pits.

There's a reason the police use GS's, there's a reason Nazi Germany used them too, and just about every police state that comes to mind.

There are places in this world where parents eat their old children to survive through hunger, and people want to bitch about a dog attack?

Here's a though, be responsible with your child, or don't leave its site. Simple ****ing rule, live by it or don't have kids.

So... you guys know the OP just trolled the **** out of you all, right? I mean... seriously obvious troll.

After the first few posts, this thread had its own life.

I now expect the WH and the Marxist Dems to go after pit bulls with the same fevered pitch effort they do for our guns.

You know this thread went like 10 pages before your post right? Obviously troll or not it started an argument.:thumb:

I was hoping you meant the bud light party anthem guy

Let's ban TV commercials

I personally think that breed is dumb as a ****ing brick and would never want one, having said that, my daughter has one that she couldnt possibly love more.

As others have said, the problem is mostly with the owners... people who want to own a pit should be vetted in some way, keeping them out of the hands of trash would go a long way towards helping the situation.

That argument borders dangerously close to the banning of guns argument. Careful now.

Some dumbshit, unleashed pit came running up on my dog and I today. Wish I would have stabbed it.

I'd make sure that knife had some good size to it before i did...

This IS the weapons argument. You could say you want to ban the devil and someone in America would cry fowl.

Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?

http://i48.tinypic.com/of3nn4.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".

Pitbull owner here. Sorry to hear the latest news. I hear these stories all the time and they worry me because I don't know have a full understanding of what triggers the attacks.

My dog is absolutely kind and loving and I try not to live in fear of him losing his sanity. But I totally get the anti-pit sentiment. It's a shame people only hear the bad news about them.

What's worse is many adoption agencies hide the terrier when advertising the breed of the dog people are adopting. I'll bet many people think they have a retriever, lab, or shepherd mix but if you look up staffordshire terrier you just might recognize facial features of a dog near you. We were told our dog was lab, retriever mix and turns out the blood work revealed he was staffie (pit), shepherd, and Finnish spitz.

There are breed bans in many counties around me and in every bordering state. My dog is discriminated against by every kennel, most veterinarians and others because he "looks like a pit". He is but I had to get the blood work to know for sure.

I'm not giving him up. You'll have to come and get him. He's never done anything to anyone. But I suppose the possibility is enough to make people lose their heads about it.

That was excellent post, except for the last sentence. Banning a dangerous breed isn't "losing your head about it".

A reasonable compromise would probably be to grandfather in existing pit bulls, but ban any new ones.

I adopted a lab retreiver mix 3 weeks ago when I asked what else it was they said they weren't sure. It looks like a pit bull and I really hope its how you raise them more then anything else he came from a high kill shelter he is only 14 weeks and so far so good but I can tell you when we play he is strong but he is very sweet. He is also very fearless I have a deck in that back of my house that has a 4 foot drop and I had him out there today and he leaped right off of it. I am a big guy so no matter how big he gets I will always be able to handle him but I just hope he stays good. I f anyone has any advice let me know.

I have some advice.


Antifreeze

If you got bite by a metro dog like a yorkie.. either it believes you aren't the alpha dog or its an old fart and losing its marbles.

I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I say we ban all things that kill one person every ten years in Wisconsin.











... ****in dipshits...

Pot / Kettle

Kill them all. Rots too.

No that's what you call bullshit. No other breed is misidentified more. Anything that looks even remotely similar to a pit is called a pit. Sometimes the dogs don't even look lit pits get called pits when reporters show up. Several people have put together slideshows where you pick the pit bull out. Google them and see how you do.

Aside from that Pits don't have mutant freakishly powerful jaws. Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Rotties bite just as hard as pits yet you aren't suggesting they should be banned.

It's a combination of things. If the dog is not skittish or scared of everything and you're not apush over, you'll be fine.

we should require all dog owners to have liability insurance

the insurance could be priced based on actuary information

more dangerous dog, more expensive policy

dogs with zero or extremely low rates may be exempt (service dogs etc)

pitbulls and their owners can all go to HELL

o:-)

YUP. **** CHILDREN

Did you know cows kill the same amount of people as dogs each year in the US?

Still mad?

It went on for 2 1/2 pages n00b. :p

And yes, it started another extrememly productive pitbull argument. I don't mind or anything. Just was surprised at how many people have responded to the OP as if he was a real person.

German Shepherds are too dangerous! /1970s

Rottweilers are too dangerous! /1980s

Pit Bulls are too dangerous! /2000s


Any guesses which breed is next to be "dangerous"?

Im going to KILL you.



















Figuratively speaking.

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

here's a misidentification test.

Link ?

Im a pit lover, but its pretty obvious they picked the smallest, skinniest pit they could find for that. It looks more like a Jack Russel. Needless to say I failed.

Whoever said pits are dumb dogs is dead wrong. Pits are one of the smartest, and most loyal breeds in the world.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5829a2.htm

http://bookofodds.com/Accidents-Deat...s-Death-by-Cow

I believe that.

I've done hospital time from a cow, so has my mother and I know other people as well.
If they count rodeo bulls I'm certain it's true.

The difference? Being killed by a cow is an occupational hazard. If you're not in a pen, barn or trailer with a cow, it cannot harm you.

People let dogs sleep with their children.

I completely believe that other breeds bite lots of people. I also completely believe that when certain breeds bite people, they do a shit load more damage. Jack Russel's are dickhead dogs and bite a lot of people, but you don't see a lot of missing faces and plastic surgery from them.

I always see the conflict from Pit supporters. They're the most loyal, intelligent, loving creatures to ever grace the earth, yet, I see posts in this thread suggesting traits for Pit ownership to get their respect. Don't know too many children with those traits.

doesn't answer the question. And on a percentage basis there are millions more cows than Pitt Bulls anyway. Plus we eat cows so it's justified.

Im a big pit fan, but I will admit letting a pit that you havent raised yourself since a pup sleep with your kids isnt very smart. However, a pit that was raised around a child since it was a pup and raised correctly is no more dangerous than a rott, GS, or a chow.

you can eat a dog.. ask the orientals.

orientals...lol