thanks dude. I 'll see what kind of damage I can do haha.
I also read that it's best to shoot it 'fine' resolution / large sizes; you can then re-save etc (like you said ) and make any size adjustments to it. I had been only shooting in the normal mode /size for now. not sure if what I read was the case or not. Too much shit to try to digest when researching for more than 15 minutes at a time lol |
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For that of you that have, or still do, use a Canon 20D...do you have any preference in CF memory cards? Brand/speed?
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I think that's the same one I have.
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I'm sure that lens is very run-of-the-mill, but it would be OK for me to start with I think. Does that seem like a decent deal? Also, I want to buy a second battery pack and they have several used ones. Is that OK, or should I buy a new battery? |
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But adding a BG-E2 grip will be money well spent, and a whole second round of batteries. Much like the motor drives of the past era, they always run out of juice before you do! I'd also recommend you invest in a sensor cleaning kit. Like I said above I've shot at a lot of dusty baseball games, and you will need to learn the art of sensor AND lens cleaning... And last the lenses...... Yeah, it's a religion as much as an art! For those of us who have been shooting for over 35 years, we can fill your brain with everything from "circles of confusion" to "real men shoot prime lenses." And in the end, you get what you pay for (that is true), but you need to know what you're looking at too.... So you can pay for "L" glass and everybody will think you're awesome, or you can save money and learn how to use a lens. Nothing wrong with "L" glass, but I've seen too many people (in Lee's Summit at least!!) who have it but don't know what how to use aperture to their advantage, or what f2.8 really means. But that's a story for another day! |
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Seriously, if you'll find something that'll get you between 50 and 200 (or so) you'll be fine on zoom. As long as you crank up the ISO to 3200, you'll probably be able to shoot between f/4 and f/5.6. However, you'll add noise if you get your ISO that high. The problem you're going to have in that light is stopping the action with your available light. And unless you can get closer and shoot with a shorter lens, you're going to have to spend a lot to get a zoom with f/2.8. |
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But, like any lens in a gym, you'll either need to shoot raw or learn how to set temperature for whatever lights those gyms hold, but learning the joy of white-balance is half the fun... http://media.the-digital-picture.com...-Hood-70mm.jpg |
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2_8_II_EX.html Hmmm...it says "For Olympus & Panasonic Digital SLR" |
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Also, is this used lens the same as the new one you referenced above? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2_8_ii_ex.html And something like this - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...30980731501410 - would have too slow an apeture (f/4) to give good results for indoor sporting events? |
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Other than the $275, how big a difference is there between these two lenses? I've never had a prime, is the .4 really that much difference in the fixed 50mm lenses. Is there a huge difference in build quality?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0mm_f_1_8.html http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Autofocus.html |
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The biggest downside to the cheaper lens is it has a plastic lens mount. This isn't a big deal if you're going to put the prime on your camera and leave it there, but I'd consider the more expensive version if you're going to swap lenses with any regularity. Or, check eBay for a Mark 1 version of that cheaper lens (it has a metal lens mount). |
So I'm on a business trip in San Francisco and there's a camera shop just up the street from my hotel. I stopped in and they're trying to sell me on this lens - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._4_5_6_IS.html
They said they can give it to me for $599. Is it a good lens and, if so, is that a good deal? BH Photo has it for $649, but there are some on Ebay for as low as $300 (I don't know that I trust ebay for buying lenses though). They told me the ultrasonic AF motor means super-fast focusing which would be good for what I want to do. Also, it appears to have a metal lens mount which you guys have mentioned is better. |
Nokia 1020 Camera Phone. :) 41 Megapixels.
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Here's the basics on depth of field, if you care to read up more: http://www.exposureguide.com/focusing-basics.htm And here's a handy-dandy DOF calculator, if you're interested: http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html The issue with light (and just because you think it's fairly well lit doesn't mean your camera agrees) is you'll need to crank up the shutter speed to at least 1/250th of a second to even come close to stopping the action, and you'll be a lot better off if you can get it to 1/500th. In order to get that kind of shutter speed indoors, you'll need two of the following: good lighting, low f-stop, or high ISO. |
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Like you, I've been doing this for a while, Since the 80s in my case, made it through film to today's platforms, thought it and love it. I still love a lot of things about film too!!! But more than anything, I love passing along what I've learned. Be it shooting plates from a submarines periscope to 110 (LOL!!). Hell I even taught black-and-white theory in the 80s! But nowadays I love handing my cameras to mothers and kids at these events and letting them give it a try. Most worry at first, then they just have fun. After that, I setup the camera for the shot, give them a rule of 3rd's lesson, and let it go. And they love it. And i love their perspective. Some buy their own gear, others just have a memory of what it was like to shoot 5fps, and that's cool too. So alas, keep capturing the moments and sharing as appropriate... Most are good moments.... Enjoy my friend... |
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Second, Public libraries have books and YouTube has videos on lighting. "Light" is photography, learning a little will affect the outcome a LOT. If you want to grasp light, buy a hand-help light meter and have use it for a while. If you can "go manual" using a light meter and get the results you want, you're well on your way to awesomeness. Third, YouTube depth-of-field and "circles of confusion". It's amazing and the process will "show" you what SOOOOO many thought was magic. If it really piques your interests, you might take that path a little farther and read-up on lens design and how various grinds work. Fourth, learn to shoot silhouettes. Pretty cool effect, plays off of #2 a lot, and will, hopefully, start you on the path to loving the most awesome medium - black-and-white... Wait, that's just my opinion! But anywhay, have fun with silhouettes... Fifth, if you're married, you might want to never admit how much you really spent on stuff they're sure you don't need... Sixth, get a great printer with archival ink... Seventh, learn how to clean a lens and digital sensor really well. A clean lens is to a photographer what a clean dick is to a porn star... Eighth, a great flash is a great flash. And a great flash isn't cheap... |
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And I think I have my mind set on this lens (I think someone mentioned it earlier in this thread): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2_8_EX_DG.html It's $1K less than the comparable lenses from Canon. |
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100.00 dollars my ass. Try 400.00. Get the name brand Nikon, Cannon, etc. so the dedicated TTL will work right. |
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And FYI, using a flash at sporting events is usually a no-no. It can distract the athlete. |
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And I've read ahead, and I totally agree that $100 for a flash that'll not make you made isn't an option... $300-$400, and it'll be some of the best camera coin you'll ever spend. Simply said, light and lenses make the picture, so the body isn't unimportant, but you might find you own the lenses and flashes a lot longer than the bodies.. |
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What is a good digital camera for around 200, I'm having a baby soon and the only camera i have is my phone.
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Does anyone have experience with the lens mounted ring lights in an interview and/or close range macro type outdoor low light video work? Ebay is flooded with these things with many of them under 100 bucks, but I see very few reviews showing them actually out in the field being used for what I have in mind.
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I'd like to order by B&H because I've used them before, but their price on this lens is ~$250 more than several other sites. I called them for a price match, but they said they couldn't/wouldn't. Then the guy tried to scare me away from the other sites saying they couldn't possibly be legitimately selling it for $1K. In light of that, have any of you ever used the following sites for photo gear? http://negrielectronics.com/sigma-ap...anon-lens.html http://www.gadgetcircuit.com/viewpro...?ID=1000091711 http://www.digitalbuydirect.com/Sigm..._HSM_for_Canon They all have the same lens for $200 to $300 less than B&H. |
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At the very least try Amazon
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No matter where you get that lens, I think you'll love it...
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I'm trying to get Adorama to price match now. If they won't, I'll order it from one of those other sites. |
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1) lighting (it's a science, but nothing you can't learn a lot about in a few good reads), 2) depth-of-field - what it is and how to work with it (this will make you a rock-star in short order!!!) 3) Shutter Priority and Aperture Priority (and see how most folks realize they just bought a 2.8 lens, so Aperture Priority might be where they want to start most days!!) There no end to what you can do, but I've done this with a lot of people and those concepts aren't rocket science, and they will be some of the biggest leaps you can take. But photo-guys will argue THAT too I'm sure... |
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I'd like a little more reach then the 200mm provides, but it'll probably be my next lens. |
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I purchased the Nikon 3200 package that included bag, 16gm card, camera, wireless link, and 55 & 200 VR lenses for 599 from Samsclub online.
I gave it to my wife for Xmas and she loves it. It is an extremely smooth camera. It opened my eyes to the shit we have been using for all these years. |
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I think you made an awesome choice. The biggest deal is to get a camera "in the hands" and let the shutter do its thing. As a man who shot film for oh-so-many years, and STILL love the challenge of it, I also LOVE what digital has done to help bring out the artist in so many more people. Some of the best shots my camera has taken over the years was when I handed the camera over to another parent at a sporting event (very hard to shoot and coach!), or even to kids. Give a nine-year-old a 20D with a grip loaded-up with a 70-200/2.8 and 2 minutes of how to hold/use it, and what they shoot is often time amazing. After they get passed the "what if I drop it" scare, it's awesome. And in the hands of parents does produce fewer blurry shots (from a percentage perspective), but a lot fewer pictures too. I give the camera to a group of cub scouts with a macro lens, and the stuff they shoot is just awesome. I'll say this, one of the pictures that hangs on my office wall is one my seven-year-old took of a mushroom growing out of a downed tree at Blue-and-Gray park east of Lee's Summit. Perhaps a little homerism there, but it was taken by a kid who was seven... And I wasn't even near him when he took it. He asked for the camera, the older scouts took them out on a short "hike", and that's what he took. Awesome! Either way, buy a bigger hard drive and let the pics flow.. :) |
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And "primes" are lenses with fixed focal lengths. No zoom.... And the "zoom" function of a lens, while nice, tends to take away some of the perfection of the lens. Back in the day it was very normal to buy a 35mm camera with the standard 50mm lens. Nowadays, it's almost unheard of. Take a trip through Luminous Landscape (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/index.shtml) and/or Fred Miranda's site (http://www.fredmiranda.com) and there are a ton of interesting articles. And if you spend a lot of time on boring conference calls, here's a site that can be very interesting to browse. Some of the work is so far out there that it's stupid, but a lot of it is pretty amazing too.. (http://photo.net/) |
thanks, I assumed it had something to do with lenses.
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Its sad the weather has been so brutal I've let my 6D and 5D MkIII basically sit unused for the last month or two. Its hard after being in Utah, Arizona, Yellowstone and lots of other western states to get excited to shoot Kansas when it 10 degrees out.
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Remember the rule of 500. Take 500 and divide by the aperture of the lens and set that as you maximum exposure. Anything longer will cause the stars to streak. So if a 50mm lens then max exposure is 10 seconds. 500 / 50 = 10. |
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I do have a question though. This lens has image stabilization. Should that be on or off with shooting fast action in continuous mode? Or does it matter. I would think it might slow down some of the shots, but I'm really not sure. I have a monopod that I use that provides some stabilization. |
OK...more questions about indoor sports photography. I tried some more manual settings this weekend and didn't get great results. In most of the photos, the subject's center mass was in focus nicely, but the arms/legs were blurry. I was told by a photog that was there that I need to up my ISO to freeze the motion better. I've been reading through the 20D manual...are shutter speed and ISO the same thing? It says that ISO is the sensitivity to light, whereas shutter speed is how fast the shutter opens/closes. In some places though, it seems they're used interchangeably. So, based on the manual and reading some forum posts, here are some settings that I'm going to try next. Any thoughts/suggestions?:
--AF Mode-- AI Servo with automatic AF point selection --Program Mode-- 1. Tv mode (shutter priority) -set ISO speed to 800 or 1600 and allow the camera to auto-set the aperture -if the aperture gets set too narrow (probably 3.5 or narrower), try option 2 2. Manual exposure mode -set ISO speed to 800 or 1600 -set aperture width to 2.8 -make adjustments based on the exposure level meter 3. Tv mode with exposure compensation -set ISO speed to 800 or 1600 and allow the camera to auto-set the aperture -raise or lower the exposure compensation based on the exposure level meter -this option is not available in manual exposure mode --White Balance-- Most gyms will use either white fluorescent or tungsten lighting. |
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1) Set the ISO to 1600 (or H if you're willing to try) so the camera can fire as quickly as possible. 2) Set the camera to AV mode and manually set it to 2.8 (or the brightest setting you have, which should be 2.8), and that should help with getting the shutter speed as fast as the camera can go. While that will minimize the DoF (the 2.8 part), the ISO of 1600/H will do about all you can do to limit the fast-moving-parts from blurring (if that's what you want). But I'd recommend the AV because it lets you control the 2.8 part of the lens you just spend so much money on (for its 2.8 ability), but keeps the camera's brains in the mix beyond that. |
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I would think you'd want to set the focus to fixed center so you're in control and the camera can't try to grab the bars or whatever other apparatus you're working around. You may be far enough away you've got enough depth to account for the error though. Every gym, church, and dungeon is going to be lit differently. I'd try to learn to get the WB set correctly each time you enter a gym instead of trusting it to get close based on what kind of lights and lighting the building has. |
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Watch these: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Q5HaRTmbozc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this one has bracketing too. Kinda cool too! <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Dy3JB0Z1G24" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/QwZGrSQ2IFI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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So I took the camera to my daughter's practice and made the adjustments...set the ISO to H (3200 I believe) and used AV mode with aperture set to 2.8. HUGE DIFFERENCE! No blurry pics save for the ones where I was just off target. It froze flips and back handsprings perfectly with no blurring. Thanks for the help everyone. Its good that I'm getting this down, because I think some parents thought I was just some perv that came in off the streets with a telephoto lens. |
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Once you find which of those make you happiest, then moving into metering (center weighted or more averaging) will be sweet.. Know this, digital or film, light and lighting is the biggest part of photography. So learning how to manipulate light is what it's all about. And dealing with flash And yeah, you can flash in a gym too if you get a good one, and you'll find out how much progress you've made. And I think you can get a really good grasp of most of it by just writing down the things you want to learn, and focus on just that for a day or two. |
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But here's an article for how to set it on you D3100: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...kon-d3100.html The key are the subjects you search for on youtube. In this case look for youtube videos for the D3100's white balance. Even though the concept is the same across all cameras, the procedure is pretty specific to a brand, so it'll save time. The key will be to understand why you're setting white balance. Photo nerds like to talk smart and call/say different kinds of light have different temperatures/warmth. Whatever, it's all about photons! But alas, all folks need to know is that when you shoot under florescent lights you might get a blue tone, and in some cases green tones! You don't want that, so here's what you can do..... So white balance "the subject" is worth a 5-10 minute video. Once you've heard the nerds talk, the important part is how do deal with it using your super-smart camera. :) But the concepts of using AV for a camera that you've dropped a 2.8 lens on, that's just something that you do and it's pretty simple - set the camera to AV, set the ISO to something really fast, then shoot. The concept is to use the "bright" 2.8 lens, and the easiest way to do that is to use AV. See, I'm more lazy than smart. :) Here's a tutorial of AV/DoF (Depth of Field) that's worth a few minutes of your empoyer's time and his bandwidth.. :) http://youtu.be/X8wL3gdJ7KA |
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Curious what the resident lens experts think... I'm going to be buying a new lens soon, just kinda stuck between the Canon f/4L 17-40mm and the Canon f/4L 24-105mm. Wondering if anyone has any experience with both and if one is the better lens, focal length notwithstanding.
This will be my first L-series, but I've got the f/1.4 50mm prime (very nice lens, really sharp at f/3.5 and higher), a f/4-5.6 75-300, and the crappy 18-55mm kit lens. I'm primarily shooting food right now, but I want to start some HDR work, too. |
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The being said, my personal recommendation would be the 24-105. 17 is VERY wide and prolly not something you'd find useful all too often. Here's an idea, you might want to click on this link and browse some of the pics you think are very close to the kinds of shots you'd take, then look at what those photogs used. It might be a waste of your time, but meh, we have time.. http://photo.net/gallery/caption-sea...ry_string=food |
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I may have just made my choice. I found some gently used f/2.8L 24-70mm. And by gently used, they say "90-96% of original condition. Exceptionally nice. May have slight wear on finish but visible only under close inspection. Glass very clean."
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