Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9860693)

IIRC you had a lot of hope the day Reid was hired.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860708)

I'll never learn.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9860721)

I get the feeling alot of you guys won't allow yourselves to enjoy this season no matter what happens. If the Chiefs go 14-2 with HFA throughout, you will still be whining about Geno.

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9860656)

:Lin::Lin::Lin::Lin::Lin:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9860721)

I get the feeling alot of you guys won't allow yourselves to enjoy this season no matter what happens. If the Chiefs go 14-2 with HFA throughout, you will still be whining about Geno.

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9860663)

Point well taken, but then you look at the Fisher thead with people already calling him a bust or planning for it. Nobody is dismissing that.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9860733)

It will be progressively worse if the team succeeds each week only to fall short of the playoffs, or god forbid, a playoff loss.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860737)

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9860679)

Don't talk to it, son. You don't want rabies.

Originally Posted by SNR

Eric Fisher and Alex Smith are fine, respectful, young heterosexual white men with lucrative careers, and are excellent role models for children who come from nuclear families. They're bright spots in a league full of criminal minorities, and should be honored and respected by everybody on this forum.

Isn't that right?

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860737)

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9860743)

Then find a other team

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860737)

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9860552)

I might've been excited about this article if it weren't from our official website. Might've.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9860752)

I've got a ton of other stuff to keep me happy and live for.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9860743)

Then find a other team

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9860765)

Nobody's force feeding the buffet to you. Feel free to get your ass up from the table and eat at the buffet across town.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860737)

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9860778)

Just curious..what if the Chiefs become playoff regulars and make an AFC Championship game in the next 3 years?

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9860765)

Nobody's force feeding the buffet to you. Feel free to get your ass up from the table and eat at the buffet across town.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9860778)

Just curious..what if the Chiefs become playoff regulars and make an AFC Championship game in the next 3 years?

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860785)

I'll probably feel differently. Hopefully.

All I can tell you right now, at this point in time, I cannot get excited about this team.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9860794)

I'll party like it's 1993.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9860798)

And by God you will make sure nobody else does either!

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860737)

It's hard for me to enjoy a football team that doesn't convince me it's ever headed for glory.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9860809)

Aaaaaaaaaaaand I stopped right there.

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9860814)

this year will finally be different. You will be able to enjoy !!!!!

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860785)

I'll probably feel differently. Hopefully.

All I can tell you right now, at this point in time, I cannot get excited about this team.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9860822)

reerun

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9860822)

reerun

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 9860854)

I was out there saturday... Chase looked ****ing awesome, Alex looked ok, bray was an overwhelming "meh, not bad" and Stanzi was ROFL.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9860807)

Just using your post as a jumping-off place:

If another poster is negatively affecting your personal level of enjoyment or interest, it's probably time to take a self-imposed vacation from the site.

If there isn't argument in an intellectual sense, there would be damn near no point to CP.

Poster one: I love the Chiefs!
Poster two: Me, too! (air chopping)

Not directed at you personally, but people bitching about people bitching is the single most ironic recurring element on this forum.

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9860856)

Yeah but that makes him feel like he fits in with the rest of the school girl drama queens. You know damn good and well he actually read the article but didn't have anything intelligent to add to the conversation.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9860421)

His last two seasons disprove those questions, Dane? Because those are the questions I continually saw 49ers fans asking over the past two years. They're the questions that have often popped up when all-22 film was broken down.

If he was aggressive enough with the ball the past two seasons, why was there so much talk early from Andy Reid about getting him to be more aggressive with the football?

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9860466)

Well, there is a reason fat Andy wanted him, so...

Remember, as a 49ers fan, I really need you guys to go 9-7 so we can have that 2nd round draft pick.

Other than that, if Alex turns into the next Eli or Big Ben, it is OK by me. Then at least your trade would be a good one. It is going to be an interesting year for you guys watching this question being answered.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9860807)

Just using your post as a jumping-off place:

If another poster is negatively affecting your personal level of enjoyment or interest, it's probably time to take a self-imposed vacation from the site.

If there isn't argument in an intellectual sense, there would be damn near no point to CP.

Poster one: I love the Chiefs!
Poster two: Me, too! (air chopping)

Not directed at you personally, but people bitching about people bitching is the single most ironic recurring element on this forum.

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9860869)

Being critical is one thing. We're all critical of something. Constantly bitching about the same thing over and over is something different.

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9860703)

I spent several years in Belton. Best golden corral around

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9860881)

Well, I have personally gone a bit overboard with it (getting irritated at the bitching) but seriously if being a fan of this team causes you nothing but grief and anger maybe a vacation is also warranted in that case.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9860881)

Well, I have personally gone a bit overboard with it (getting irritated at the bitching) but seriously if being a fan of this team causes you nothing but grief and anger maybe a vacation is also warranted in that case.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860895)

No grief nor anger here (anger has subsided since Pioli left).

Just a lot of apathy.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9860875)

What exactly am I supposed to take away from this fluffy POS drool-fest, exactly, sport-o?

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9860925)

Obviously nothing because you didn't take the time to read it. It's much "cooler" to pretend your more intelligent and too good to read an inferior person's article.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860892)

Hey now. I'm an equal opportunity bitcher.

Alex, Sean, Dex, Tyson, ****a, Baldwin...they are all equally worthless. And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps! Do you maggots understand that?

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9860989)

FFS Baldwin was in more desperate need of teaching than any first rounder we've ever had. Who was going to teach him how to beat a press? Romeo? Brian ****ing Daboll? Romeo is going to sit him down and show him how to use his hands to disengage from a press corner?

.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860999)

*shrug*

I don't think coaching can fix any of those guys.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9861012)

Seriously???? We all know how bad Crennel and his staff were, but i think we underestimate just how bad it was. He was godawful and so was his staff.


Reid is a proven winner. Crennel never was.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860999)

*shrug*

I don't think coaching can fix any of those guys.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9861023)

The good news is we should be able to throw the piss poor coaching excuse out the window with this team so if we have the talent some think we do, we should win some games.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9861026)

Coaching AT THIS LEVEL, IS THE DIFFERENCE. The quicker you understand that, the quicker we can all move on.

All of the athletes at this level, are similar. Coaching always gets the best out of players. Or do you believe that without the coaching that Tom Brady would of been Tom Brady?

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9861026)

Coaching always gets the best out of players. Or do you believe that without the coaching that Tom Brady would of been Tom Brady?

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9861026)

Coaching AT THIS LEVEL, IS THE DIFFERENCE. The quicker you understand that, the quicker we can all move on.

All of the athletes at this level, are similar. Coaching always gets the best out of players. Or do you believe that without the coaching that Tom Brady would of been Tom Brady?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861061)

Talent is what matters at this level. Players make coaches look good more often than the other way 'round. Teams are rarely 'coached up'. They're assembled by smart front offices.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9861072)

I don't know, I think it makes a big differencde

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861061)

Talent is what matters at this level. Players make coaches look good more often than the other way 'round. Teams are rarely 'coached up'. They're assembled by smart front offices.

On the flip side, bad coaches can have a detrimental impact, but even then, good players can overcome bad coaches.

Unfortunately what we've seen here for too long is the worst of both worlds.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9861044)

Tom? yes.


I agree with the premise though and find it applicable to the majority of players. IMO, Tom isn't one of them. Neither is Barry Sanders, as another example.

Some people, just regardless of reason produce and turn into absolute freaks even when they shouldn't. It's the beauty of athletic competition.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9860607)

If five years from now Eric Fisher were to become the next Tony Mandarich, and I posted a comment about how it was stupid of Reid and Dorsey to even consider him the top overall pick, a bunch of reeruns like you would say, "You're just butthurt the Chiefs didn't draft Geno."

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9860495)

But I don't think Alex was ever coached down. I think, there are times Alex has his back to the wall and quits thinking -- and suddenly he is a GREAT QB. But those times are fleeting. Most of the time he over-thinks, plays it safe, and the regresses back to Good Alex, the mediocre 15-20th ranked QB.

I don't think it is coaching down at all. I think it is just Alex's nature.

Maybe Andy will bring the will to attack out of Alex. If he does, Alex will be a very good QB indeed. I just wouldn't expect to see a dramatic mental change in Alex in year 9 of his career. A game or 2 sure, but not overall.

Last year, he grew a bit. He attacked well game 1 vs. the Packers. He really went after them. In the Bills game, he really attacked -- although I still maintain that the DBs were not in press coverge and played off his receivers. Alex has never had a problem launching it deep to isolated receivers -- it is when there is a DB in the proximity that he seems to balk and check down rather than challenge that DB deep. At least Flacco slightly overthrows his receivers so either they get it or nobody does. Alex doesn't even make the attempt on those -- well, at least, he didn't. We'll see going forward.

Anyway, vs. Packers & Lions, Alex attacked pretty good. Really attacked vs. Bills. Then he had a terrible game vs. Giants and what happened? Vs. Seattle, he just crawled back in his shell and played it safe, and still ended up screwing the pooch. I hate to use the "K" word, but Kaepernick has the good pitchers mentality. You give up a home run, but you come right back with heat right down the middle. You don't dwell on the home run or start walking guys.

Alex is like the pitcher that gets rattled every time he gives up a home run, so instead he paints the corners. On his good days he hits the plate. On his bad days, he walks in the winning run. But he doesn't have that mentality of attacking the batter -- just jamming fastballs down his throat down and in, make the batter accept the challenge.

That is just how I see Alex. A very good, VERY smart, mobile, competent passer who just lacks the killer instinct to get to the next level. He is a good, mid-pack QB who will win 12 games on a good team and give you some chance to navigate the playoffs. What he won't do is put the team on his back and raise the play of everyone around him.

You know what you are getting with Alex. Good luck with him! I really like the guy -- he is a solid QB and a stellar person. Jim would call him a "gold helmet" guy. Look how much class and grace he showed handled the benching.

Still, "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser." Joe Montana wouldn't even talk to Steve Young and we all know how Joe Cool played the game.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9861079)

Brady will retire a Pat which is kind of a shame. NE is so "system", I would love to see what Brady could or could not do with a team like Chicago or something.

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9861083)

And we would be right.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9861091)

To that organization/coach's credit, they did take an offensive philosophy and turn it into an entire system, which is impressive.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9861077)

I think it is both.

There are coaches who've produced with marginal talent and coaches who've earned reputations via the talent of players (cough, cough, Daboll).

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861085)

People always think coaching will fix this team.

It's been a theme since Gunther rode in on a white horse.

I don't know if there's a horse alive who could support Andy Reid.

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9861089)

Giants game...you don't remember the finger issue? He injured it against the Bills at the end.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861085)

People always think coaching will fix this team.

It's been a theme since Gunther rode in on a white horse.

I don't know if there's a horse alive who could support Andy Reid.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9861112)

It HAS fixed this team in the past.

Marty versus Gansz? Vermeil versus Gunther? Stram versus Wiggin?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is the best coaching staff since at least 1997, if not 1993.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861049)

I believe that no amount of coaching can fix bad football players.

And I'm not so sure this coaching staff is as wunderkind as homers want it to be.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9861112)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is the best coaching staff since at least 1997, if not 1993.

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9861127)

We haven't had a coaching staff here worth a shit.

Coaching can go a long way.

Look no further than SF.

Tell me Harbaugh didn't make a Huge difference.

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9861083)

And we would be right.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861142)

And my supposition is that it won't matter if the front office doesn't assemble one of the league's best rosters, and find one of the league's top QBs..

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9861126)

Just don't even bother. Hes a Kaepernick ball gobbler. Alex is the Anti Christ to him. Hes a piece of crap, hes on his second account on the 49ers board because he is so obnoxious.....[/quote]

Why, who IS this intriguing chap?

In for a look.

Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9860571)

Works for me, thanks. I think the Chiefs could go 10-6 this year, but what the hell do I know? I would pencil you in for 7-10 wins, like this.

Wins:
@ Jaguars week1
@ Titans week 5
Raiders week 6
Browns week 8
@ Bills week 9
Chargers week 12
@Raiders week 15