I think it was pure luck they handled it right, that franchise is a joke right now.

I think those qbs (Ryan,flacco,etc) are absolutely good enough to win SBs. But the contracts severely limit what they NEED around them in order to do so.

So I really don't know what you do.

I would have never guessed Fitzpatrick had over 15k in passing yards in his career.

Petro had some stats about Super Bowl winning qbs and the % of the teams salary cap. No huge money qb has won a Super Bowl since they got the huge money

It also seems the league is turning more to loading up and gearing for ways to stop the pass. I do t know what the effect of that will be though, do teams go back to a power base game? Do teams start throwing more money at pass catchers?

I've wondered about this. Do you have any links to anything of the such?

Build, build, build - try to win before they get expensive and, IMO, always have an eye out for the QBOTF.

I think I'd use legitimate resources on a QB every other year. Even if you only hit on 1 in 3, that's about how long it would take your 'good' QBs to price themselves out of the market on you. And if you hit on a great one, you pay to keep him for as long as you can.

So if I'm the Dolphins, knowing that I'm probably going to have to face a silly decision on Tannehill in 2016, I'm putting QBs on my draft board in 2014. If I see a guy with some potential that slides a bit, I'd take him. You just can't leave yourself without any leverage anymore because these QBs and their agents will absolutely murder you.

It's like buying a car at this point - unless it's a Bugatti, you'd better be willing to walk away...

Why did walker try to go outside of the blocker? :doh!:

Problem there is, you have to use those big resources to try and put the talent around said qb to see if he's the guy or not.

A lot of times, by the time they figure out he's not, it's either time to pay, or you've already paid and it's too late.

I think I'd do the same though, but I'd be much more available to trading said qb before a decision becomes a fact.

Not sure if this is what he was going off or not

http://overthecap.com/super-bowl-rin...e-quarterback/

this turned into a fun game

Well nobody said it was easy to build a winner...

Look at Kaepernick. The 49ers are going to have to make a decision on him after next season. Based on hype alone, that kid's going to want top 10 QB money. Well look at how the top QB deals are going right now - in 2015, a top 10 QB's going to be about $18-20 million in cap space.

So are they cool losing Aldon Smith and Michael Crabtree because of that deal? They may not have a choice.

It's just an interesting dilemma.

I noticed today that for all the talk about how easy it is to pass and the rules are so slanted towards passing that the top 10 defenses are giving up less than 218 yards a game passing, Houston is giving up 167 (crazy) and the 15th best pass defense Stl is only giving up 237 yards a game.

Yet somehow according to many on CP there are 20 franchise QB's and if you dont throw 30 yards down the numbers all the time you lose.

Something isnt adding up.

Yes indeed.

'Zag'

There is never going to be a 'new' NFL, only a 'now' NFL. Coaches are too smart and have too much time on their hands. Nothing's going to work forever.

Fitz with bad ball placement.

That sounds funny to say. LMAO

Fleener left 3 points on the field on that last drive by running out of bounds after his long catch rather than fighting for 5 or 10 more yards after his long catch against DB's smaller than him. He ran out of bounds just shy of field goal range and the drive stalled. Soft football.

The Rams say hi.

that was a big tackle by butler...nice

Yeah, that was pretty bad. He had a full head of steam and about 30 lbs on the guy lining him up. If he just puts a shoulder bad into the guys chest, he gets another 3-5 yards pretty easily.

It's going to be pretty funny when the Colts scrap this Richardson experiment. Donald Brown is clearly the better runner.

Luck's most recent cadence


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Brown > Richardson.

The Titans just dried up on offense. They deserve to lose.

brown has a lot of speed considering...

Colts gave up a first-rounder for a third-down short-yardage back ... and then give the ball to the fullback for the first

We beat the Titans by 11 in their house, the Colts are squeaking out a win and Clay is talking about how great the Colts are.

It appears to be all that down field passing Luck is doing.

Tits need to hold them to a FG to have a chance.

Pay the quarterback. Pretty easy decision in my mind.

Browns raped the Colts on that deal.

No lube.

Working for the Ravens.

We'll be lucky to even be in the game against these guys /wendler

If the Colts get down by two scores against us they aren't coming back like they have the last few weeks. They are an okay team but I have no doubts we handle them easily.

does richardson ever carry more than 5 yards?

Lacy looks wayyyy better than Richardson in the pros.

Wow. Horrible call.

You knew there would be laundry there.

Coming up next "denver's hot start" LOL

NFL = even closer to full-on gay! A QB pulls the ball back and everybody thinks they're the next Mike Vick..

Just sad!

And most teams that have taken that route will regret the hell out of it.

But yeah, the NFL is just full of 'easy decisions', isn't it? I love the folks that think there's a dogma to follow.

Billion dollar industry full of mufti-million dollar failures, but the answer to the whole thing is 'easy', eh?

Uhhhh, the Chiefs have not lost 2 straight either. :spock:

Clay hacked the audio feed.

Donald Brown>>>>>>Trent richardson

Maybe the 49ers should be looking for a quarterback in this year's draft. jmo

Aaaand Donald Brown was my FA pickup this week in fantasy. :D

:clap:

They have to be kicking themselves hard in the ass right now over that.

Didn't they mean that the Colts haven't lost 2 straight, for the longest time?

LMAO

They said since the start of last season.

The Colts might actually be difficult if they just feed Brown the football.

It's night and day, him vs. Richardson. He's so much better than Richardson that Trent actually looks injured.

More likely he just really sucks.

They said the Colts were the only team that hasn't lost two games in a row going back to the start of last season.

At this point the only question is how long they'll stick to it. It's glaringly obvious they made a mistake.

"And Tony G"! Ugh!

You missed the important part.

Everybody's welcome here
Everybody welcome to my city

What were the Ravens supposed to do? Let Flacco walk?

It's also not as easy as, "Just say no."

I honestly have to say, they may regret not telling him to walk.

LMAO

Colts are the ultimate trolls

I've been saying this since they got Trent. Brown is a much better back. Add in the fact that he can catch the ball out of the backfield and it's not even close.

How many SB's have been won by QB's that got paid?

The only failure I am seeing on the list is Flacco.


Brees, Manning, Brady, Rodgers can all win another SB. Rapelisburger and Manning won a SB after they got paid.

So, what were you guys saying again? LMAO

They'll never regret it.

The dude led them to a SB. You can't kill a hero in the prime of his career. Your fans will revolt.

They didn't give themselves a choice.

When they decided not to extend him prior to his FA season, they needed to go after a QBOTF. At that point yes, they should've let Flacco walk. The only thing worse than not capitalizing on a window is not realizing when it's closing.

The Chiefs did that same thing in the 70s and it killed them for years; and that's without the shackles of the salary cap.

They'd have been better served franchising and trading Flacco than giving him the deal they gave him.

We should be able to stack the box against them to severely limit the running game.

Trent Richardson really does suck. It's incredible.

Their only other option was to franchise him and see how he did this year.

Another good TNF game.

Maybe these things will be worth a shit in the second half of the season.

wow...TD TN nice

So, who do the Colts being out to finish this game out: Richardson or Brown?

They can kneel it down.

That's fair. I can definitely see that being the case.

It comes down to planning, I guess. I hope Dorsey and Reid implement a plan this coming offseason for Alex Smith. He wouldn't warrant a mega contract extension like Flacco, but there's still the issue of keeping him or not keeping him, and if that roster prep isn't made the season before, the Chiefs might get caught with their pants down like the Ravens did in an all-or-nothing situation.

Could there be worse lyrics than that song? lol

oops...you're right, no timeouts.

Really want to see Tennessee have one last shot.

They wont say it but they can easily regret it, and fans will later.

Really wish they'd pick a different song.

I presume you weren't paying attention when I noted the first 4 guys you mentioned as being the 4 in the NFL worth paying; those guys are legitimate legends.

As to Ben and Eli, 3-5 years ago, the deals weren't quite as prohibitive. They were expensive, but they weren't absurd like the ones we've seen recently.

Look at where the baseline's been set now. With Romo/Flacco setting the bar, QB contracts could and likely will go absolutely insane.

And if they do, teams would be far smarter not to bite, IMO. Giving 15-20% of your salary cap to a quarterback that isn't truly elite (i.e everyone that isn't Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers) is going to damage the hell out of teams.

Fakes on onside-kicks are so pointless.

Colts win by 3 in Tennessee with help from a ST turnover.

Luck is a down field passing beast!

That is a really good Colts team.

Should be a tough matchup at Arrowhead.

Ravens went the route with the super team stacked with talent. Didn't win anything until Flacco got to town. His playoff record is outstanding. Beat Len Dawson's playoff road record. Won a Super Bowl. Pay the man.

song has a catchy tune - after a while.