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RealSNR 03-27-2014 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 10520015)
Jesus, why was I not told about Blake Bortles girlfriend until now? You are all fired.

Check out the Kyle van Noy thread, brah. There's a pic of his fiancee in there. Holy Jesus mothers.

duncan_idaho 03-27-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10519359)
Oh, wait, are you talking about this one?

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/truestfans.gif

That's the one. I just love the expression of abject joy as he fist pumps his approval of selecting what I'm sure he thinks will be the next Orlando Pace or Walter Jones or Jon Ogden.

Bowser 03-27-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10520082)
That's the one. I just love the expression of abject joy as he fist pumps his approval of selecting what I'm sure he thinks will be the next Orlando Pace or Walter Jones or Jon Ogden.

His thought process didn't even go that far. He's just happy he got his old man mullet on TV.

Saccopoo 03-27-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10520082)
That's the one. I just love the expression of abject joy as he fist pumps his approval of selecting what I'm sure he thinks will be the next Orlando Pace or Walter Jones or Jon Ogden.

Actually, I believe that the dude posts here.

Said he and his buddies were total shit faced and they were going to whoop it up even if they took Leon Sandcastle.

Just a room full of Chiefs fans having fun.

Sfeihc 03-27-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10521597)
Actually, I believe that the dude posts here.

Said he and his buddies were total shit faced and they were going to whoop it up even if they took Leon Sandcastle.

Just a room full of Chiefs fans having fun.

Except for milkman.

Direckshun 03-27-2014 11:15 PM

Milkman had fun once.

It was awful.

htismaqe 03-28-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10521597)
Actually, I believe that the dude posts here.

Said he and his buddies were total shit faced and they were going to whoop it up even if they took Leon Sandcastle.

Just a room full of Chiefs fans having fun.

There was 2 pages of conversation on it...

YESTERDAY

ROFL

planetdoc 03-30-2014 12:44 PM

I'm not an advocate of drafting an offensive lineman in round 1. That being said, if somehow Taylor Lewan was available when the chiefs pick than I would grab him. He is really a tremendous athlete, and a mauler in the run game.

planetdoc 03-31-2014 09:55 AM

Tim Grunhard on KC Chiefs o-line

Quote:

LT Eric Fisher

"You know [Chiefs offensive line coach] Andy Heck and I played together at Notre Dame. We went out to dinner and Andy really likes the kid. A lot of ups and downs, but very athletic. He's got great length. He thinks the game moved a little too quick for him last year." "I'm not sold ... He has to get a lot more physical and mentally he has to get stronger. He's got the athleticism. The kid has great feet. He has John Alt feet."
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RT Donald Stephenson

"I think Stephenson's going to be OK ... I think that's a good move."
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C Rodney Hudson

"I like Hudson ... I think keep him at center. The kid is starting to feel comfortable there. That's a position where even though there isn't a lot of one on one blocking -- although with the 3-4 defense teams are starting to run, there's more of that -- but there's not a lot of one-on-one. He's a pretty smart kid. He's got a good relationship with all the quarterbacks. Why mess with that? Go find yourself a guard. You can find a guard in the draft and then he can come up and play."
Quote:

G Jeff Allen
"I think you need to find an upgrade. I'm just not sold on the kid. I'm just not ... I'm not sure about his punch, I'm not sure about his finish. I think the kid gets a good position, a fairly smart player, but you don't see that explosion from him coming off the ball. You don't see that second level ability."

OldSchool 03-31-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10529439)

So we need an upgrade at both OG positions. Hello Xua'Filo in the 1st plus Brandon Thomas in the 3rd, lol.

htismaqe 03-31-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10529549)
So we need an upgrade at both OG positions. Hello Xua'Filo in the 1st plus Brandon Thomas in the 3rd, lol.

I find it funny that Grunhard didn't even mention RG.

Should tell you something about what he thinks about Rishaw Johnson.

duncan_idaho 03-31-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10529549)
So we need an upgrade at both OG positions. Hello Xua'Filo in the 1st plus Brandon Thomas in the 3rd, lol.

To the championship!

planetdoc 03-31-2014 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10529549)
So we need an upgrade at both OG positions. Hello Xua'Filo in the 1st plus Brandon Thomas in the 3rd, lol.

from the same linked article

Quote:

But the answer to the Chiefs guard questions is not in the first round of the draft, according to Grunhard.

"I think you can find somebody," Grunhard said. "I don't know the logistics of who's there. I haven't looked at the top 10 guards coming out.... There are some guys that played tackle that might move into the guard position. I think you can find a guy who played tackle in college and move him inside."

The first round of the draft should be a receiver, Grunhard said. "Chiefs are going to get a playmaker in the first round."

Direckshun 03-31-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10529563)
I find it funny that Grunhard didn't even mention RG.

Should tell you something about what he thinks about Rishaw Johnson.

Keep ****ing doubting Rishaw Johnson.

Saccopoo 03-31-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10530698)
Keep ****ing doubting Rishaw Johnson.

I think we, as a collective, pretty much are.

htismaqe 04-01-2014 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10531561)
I think we, as a collective, pretty much are.

Rightfully so, IMO.

RunKC 04-01-2014 09:28 AM

I don't see OL especially since Zack Martin should be gone by our pick. I also think ODB is gone too. He's gaining steam.

I would say Lee or Cooks are great bets at this point.

OldSchool 04-01-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10532033)
I don't see OL especially since Zack Martin should be gone by our pick. I also think ODB is gone too. He's gaining steam.

I would say Lee or Cooks are great bets at this point.

Cooks won't make it to us. The Jets are in love with him apparently.

RunKC 04-01-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10532045)
Cooks won't make it to us. The Jets are in love with him apparently.

Then Lee it is. One of those 3 will be there

htismaqe 04-01-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10532052)
Then Lee it is. One of those 3 will be there

Why settle?

Lee isn't in the same time zone as Cooks and Beckham...

Bowser 04-01-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10532319)
Why settle?

Lee isn't in the same time zone as Cooks and Beckham...

Well, Lee WAS The Biletnikoff Award winner two year ago, and was plagued by nagging injuries this past year. I think he's got some ability and potential there.

htismaqe 04-01-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10532374)
Well, Lee WAS The Biletnikoff Award winner two year ago, and was plagued by nagging injuries this past year. I think he's got some ability and potential there.

He'd be a great 2nd rounder.

Bowser 04-01-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10532383)
He'd be a great 2nd rounder.

Heh, I see what you're getting at.

Lee isn't high on my wish list, but I wouldn't be pissed if we took him. I'd take him before any of the assorted linemen people want to prognosticate to us. I wouldn't take him before Amaro or ASJ, or probably even Van Noy.


I just want a playmaker with our first pick, really. Pest said it best - you can easily control their contracts their first four years. That makes it even more attractive to take a playmaker, be it on either side of the ball.

RunKC 04-01-2014 03:06 PM

Btw Jets signed Jacoby Ford. They should go after Ebron.

O.city 04-01-2014 03:17 PM

ODB should be the Chiefs pick. Makes to much sense.

RunKC 04-01-2014 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10532674)
ODB should be the Chiefs pick. Makes to much sense.

I would love this but I bet he's long gone by then. I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy go top 15.

One will fall though. We're in the right position that player to fall to us.

htismaqe 04-01-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10532683)
I would love this but I bet he's long gone by then. I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy go top 15.

One will fall though. We're in the right position that player to fall to us.

I hope it's Mike Evans...

planetdoc 04-01-2014 05:06 PM

nice writeup on trai turner
http://withthefirstpick.com/2014/03/...-turner-g-lsu/

Quote:

Turner is probably going to need a little bit of time to get acclimated, but he has the potential to start and be a potential star down the road. It will come down to how fast Turner can learn the playbook and get in shape enough to be a consistent, every down player.

NFL Comparison
Turner has some similarities to Marshal Yanda of the Baltimore Ravens. They have similar builds for the position and may end up going around the same area of the draft. Like with Yanda, it may take a little bit of time for Turner to find his way in the NFL, but if he can, it could have a similar level of impact the way Yanda has, playing at an incredibly high level.
by the way the article mentioned an interesting tidbit
Quote:

Turner’s best fit is in a gap scheme at right guard. If he can get cleaner around his midsection and more consistent with his ability on the move, it is possible someone could look at him for left guard, but that seems unlikely.
that "midsection" has been Jeff Allen's problem.

RunKC 04-01-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10532792)
I hope it's Mike Evans...

I would JIMP if he did fall but I doubt he will.

htismaqe 04-01-2014 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10532923)
nice writeup on trai turner
http://withthefirstpick.com/2014/03/...-turner-g-lsu/



by the way the article mentioned an interesting tidbit


that "midsection" has been Jeff Allen's problem.

Jeff Allen's biggest problem is that he's not a real left guard...

planetdoc 04-01-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533029)
Jeff Allen's biggest problem is that he's not a real left guard...

what is he in your opinon? he was a pretty good college LT.

O.city 04-01-2014 08:46 PM

I think ODB is a younger cheaper less assholish Desean Jackson.

Sorter 04-01-2014 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10533252)
I think ODB is a younger cheaper less assholish Desean Jackson.

I'm personally reminded of a less explosive Harvin.


Pretty intriguing player though.

O.city 04-01-2014 08:56 PM

I can see that.

htismaqe 04-01-2014 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10533048)
what is he in your opinon? he was a pretty good college LT.

Yeah, he was actually a really good tackle at times at Illinois. I think he'd be a better backup/swing tackle if we had a better LG on the roster...

The Franchise 04-02-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533287)
Yeah, he was actually a really good tackle at times at Illinois. I think he'd be a better backup/swing tackle if we had a better LG on the roster...

Doesn't matter....Hudson and Allen will be gone when their contracts are up.

duncan_idaho 04-02-2014 09:38 AM

My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


Sfeihc 04-02-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10533941)
My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


Whoa! I don't know even where to begin with this.

Sfeihc 04-02-2014 09:44 AM

Okay, with a minute to collect my thoughts I must ask you do know April Fool's was yesterday, right?

The Franchise 04-02-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10533941)
My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

planetdoc 04-02-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533287)
Yeah, he was actually a really good tackle at times at Illinois. I think he'd be a better backup/swing tackle if we had a better LG on the roster...

If he is not capable of playing in a phone booth (guard), than how can he play outside in the nfl?

I think another part of his problem is that Allen, Asamoah, and Hudson were drafted for the ZBS. They were drafted for their quickness.

Reid instituted a man heavy scheme. When the line switched back to a ZBS midway though the season, than the line improved.

Frosty 04-02-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10533977)
If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10518803)
I'm picking for the Chiefs in a mock on another site I frequent.

Just completed a trade-up with the Dallas owner there.

Chiefs get: No. 16

Cowboys get: 1st, 4th and 2nd 6th (200) from KC

Xavier sua'Filo now guaranteed to be a Chief in that mock.

I will also be mocking the best available OL or DL to the Chiefs with every pick in that draft. :D

:)

Direckshun 04-02-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 10533958)
Okay, with a minute to collect my thoughts I must ask you do know April Fool's was yesterday, right?

Well done, sir.

planetdoc 04-02-2014 11:42 AM

in regards to Jeff Allen

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen april 2 2014
"We had a good year, but it didn't end the way that we wanted it to," Allen admitted. "Even if we'd won that game, we'd have been hurting going into the next one."

Still, Allen insisted that he and his teammates had started 2014 "hungry," "humble" and ready to make another run this coming season. He has been exercising twice a day - lifting, running, doing position work. The Chiefs' offensive guard was also fresh off AdvoCare's "24-day challenge," a 10-day cleanse followed by a diet of meat, fruits and veggies (and a minimum of carbs).

"I lost, like, 7 pounds," Allen said. "I'm working on changing my body composition." The goal: Get ripped and become a better football player. "If you aren't doing the things to get better, you're going to get replaced."


Saccopoo 04-02-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10534286)

Allen has always had a very good attitude towards the game.

I think he got caught in-between a scheme change and tried to do the quickest thing possible in an attempt to be effective in Reid's offensive plan, which was to gain weight to be more productive in a power type scheme.

Allen has the tools and the attitude. Let's see if a year in the system and a full off-season of knowing what he needs to do allows him to be more effective as a player.

I think that the offensive line is going to surprise people this coming season.

planetdoc 04-03-2014 08:19 AM

I think that was likely the case. He got fat and lost his quickness. by the way, I tried to do a google image search of jeff, and this was one of the first that came up.

http://www.pond-photography.com/2013...-jeff-marissa/

kinda cool to have engagement photos on the 50 at arrowhead.

The Franchise 04-03-2014 10:02 AM

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 13h

I haven't talked to one scout/exec that would take David Yankey in the first 3 rounds.

duncan_idaho 04-03-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10533977)
If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

Blue font

Incredibly sarcastic. I'm using this entire mock draft to mock the Chiefs. It's flying over the head of most of the guys on there.

Trying to prep my round 3 pick (Pick must be either an OL or DL/OLB) ...

Brandon Turner (OG, Clemson)?
Joel Bitonio (OT, Nevada)?
Trent Murphy (OLB, Stanford)?

I think I'm going to go with Turner.

RealSNR 04-03-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10534286)

That's fantastic news. It makes me think that the Chiefs really aren't too incredibly concerned with the RG spot, and that Rishaw Johnson will be the starter next year.

I know that Jeff Linkenbach came so cheaply that they could possibly have brought him aboard as competition for Johnson at the backup, while the high pick G takes the starter spot, but I just can't buy that Dorsey is as thick-headed as Andy Reid is when it comes to the offensive line.

Dorsey has tried to fix the Packers' tackle situation with first rounders in Bulaga and Sherrod in consecutive years. He's rotated in veterans that were long ago acquired by the team (TJ Lang, Jason Spitz, Josh Sitton) with young players acquired through the middle rounds of the draft (Evan Dietrich-Smith, Marshall Newhouse). Two of those depth players (Lang, Dietrich-Smith) were promoted to starter after Dorsey left and played phenomenally.

Dorsey has final say. I have a hard time thinking he'll go guard. I don't think he will.

OldSchool 04-03-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10537342)
Blue font

Incredibly sarcastic. I'm using this entire mock draft to mock the Chiefs. It's flying over the head of most of the guys on there.

Trying to prep my round 3 pick (Pick must be either an OL or DL/OLB) ...

Brandon Turner (OG, Clemson)?
Joel Bitonio (OT, Nevada)?
Trent Murphy (OLB, Stanford)?

I think I'm going to go with Turner.

You mean Brandon Thomas?

duncan_idaho 04-03-2014 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10537525)
You mean Brandon Thomas?

Yup.

planetdoc 04-03-2014 04:15 PM

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...0,879985.story
Quote:

Seantrel Henderson’s career at Miami had its share of disappointing moments. Another came Thursday when the offensive lineman couldn’t finish his workout at the Hurricanes’ Pro Day.

“He went there intent to do the bench and position drills but his competitive spirit took over and he did a full combine,” Henderson’s agent David Levine told the Sun Sentinel. “At the end of the workout he got dehydrated, started getting a super bad headache, felt like he was going to throw up and didn’t do the last two O-line drills.”

According to Levine, Henderson improved on his broad jump and vertical jump from the combine, posting a ‘8’6” broad, and a 28 ½ vertical. He also benched 225-pounds 25 times. At the combine, Henderson posted a 7’9” broad and a 24-inch vertical.

“He did everything we needed to see,” said an executive from one NFC team. “He just looked pretty winded at the end, but they put them through it.”

Direckshun 04-03-2014 05:35 PM

Hendersom's interesting. Huge, absolutely huge, with unreal speed for a guy his size.

Prototypical Dorsey pick.

planetdoc 04-03-2014 05:49 PM

dont think dorsey would waste even a 6th round pick on him....though he might try to pick him up as a UDFA.

planetdoc 04-03-2014 06:09 PM

Packers NFL Draft History: Ted Thompson Loves College Left Tackles
excerpt below

Quote:

You see, Ted Thompson likes college left tackles. He likes them A LOT. The track record of offensive linemen he has drafted in recent years seem to indicate that if you were not a starter for your college team at left tackle for an extended period of time, you will not be a Green Bay Packers draftee. This theory does not apply to undrafted free agents, however, as the team has brought in many college guards and centers after the draft is finished.
Stephenson, Fisher, and Allen were all college LT. Kush (Dorsey's other 2013 offensive line draft pick) had 9 collegiate starts at LT, but played center the last 2 yrs of college.

Direckshun 04-04-2014 12:02 AM

Su'a-Filo and Yankey have played a season at LT.

Really all this does is further sell the idea that Zack Martin is a Chief.

planetdoc 04-04-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10538395)
Really all this does is further sell the idea that Zack Martin is a Chief.

not a workout warrior. He didnt run at the combine, average vertical/broad.


His bench was great, but he has under 33" arms....which makes it easier.

Dorsey drafts workout warriors.

Bowser 04-04-2014 10:42 AM

A bevy of Miatas will be shat if we take a linemen in the first this year.

the Talking Can 04-04-2014 11:10 AM

it would be stupid, pathetic, and demoralizing if this admin spent back to back firsts on OL...jesus fisher christ

Saccopoo 04-04-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10538653)
not a workout warrior. He didnt run at the combine, average vertical/broad.


His bench was great, but he has under 33" arms....which makes it easier.

Dorsey drafts workout warriors.

Which is why he might take a flyer on Boston College's OT Matt Patchan in the fifth or sixth round.

Freak level measurements at the combine, including an "unofficial" 4.84 40 and a 33 1/2" vertical at 6'6", 306 lb.

Like I said in my mock, Patchan has all the tools. He's just never seen the field due to numerous football and non-football injuries. Played one year out of a possible six.

Direckshun 04-04-2014 10:23 PM

Uhhhh...

This year, they better stay way from guys with injury flags.

Saccopoo 04-04-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10540498)
Uhhhh...

This year, they better stay way from guys with injury flags.

You take a guy like Patchan in the sixth if he's there. The potential very much outweighs the injury risk.

And you just make sure he doesn't get shot again or run over by a car while driving his scooter.

planetdoc 04-05-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10540476)
Which is why he might take a flyer on Boston College's OT Matt Patchan in the fifth or sixth round.

I've mentioned him as part of the Olineman I would consider:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...8&postcount=19

Oldschool might have been the first to mention him: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...41&postcount=3

If you want to see all the players that I think may be on the chiefs "short list" (with corresponding chiefsplanet links) you can see them here: http://boards.kcchiefs.com/forum/kan...aft-short-list

Saccopoo 04-05-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10541330)
I've mentioned him as part of the Olineman I would consider:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...8&postcount=19

Oldschool might have been the first to mention him: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...41&postcount=3

If you want to see all the players that I think may be on the chiefs "short list" (with corresponding chiefsplanet links) you can see them here: http://boards.kcchiefs.com/forum/kan...aft-short-list

Sorry. I don't cheat on Chiefs Planet.

OldSchool 04-07-2014 12:57 PM

Oh man, hate to hear stuff like this:

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Clemson T/G Brandon Thomas tore his ACL during pre-draft training last week.
It's a disappointing blow for one of our favorite O-Line prospects in this draft. Thomas manhandled Jadeveon Clowney in Clemson's 2013 matchup with South Carolina, and was a 36-game starter on Tajh Boyd's blind side for the Tigers. He was a sleeper to be drafted in the first round. Thomas won't be available for his rookie NFL season, though some teams may now view him as a "value" pick.
Source: ESPN.com Apr 7 - 2:37 PM
We can probably get him in the 5th now though. He won't be useful for next season though.

The Franchise 04-07-2014 01:11 PM

I'd spend a 4th or 5th on him. Redshirt his first year and he can replace Linkenbach after this season.

Nightfyre 04-07-2014 01:27 PM

Those players are still valuable, imo. Yeah, you lose a year of cost control, but you don't lose a roster spot. He would be a great reach/pick for a team with a deep roster because you can increase the talent level of your team simply by placing them on the IR for a year, which in turn frees up a roster spot for another talent on your team.

Direckshun 04-07-2014 01:28 PM

That is heartbreaking. Hope he comes back stronger than ever.

The Franchise 04-07-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10545821)
Those players are still valuable, imo. Yeah, you lose a year of cost control, but you don't lose a roster spot. He would be a great reach/pick for a team with a deep roster because you can increase the talent level of your team simply by placing them on the IR for a year, which in turn frees up a roster spot for another talent on your team.

Exactly.

OldSchool 04-07-2014 01:41 PM

I really like Thomas in this draft, thought he would go late 2nd to 3rd round based on his talent. Now he will drop to the 4th or 5th round or someone like SF will take him with their comp pick in the 3rd.

kccrow 04-07-2014 05:25 PM

Throw Thomas down in the 7th-FA category with Spencer Long of Nebraska. I never like Thomas much anyhow, but that sucks for him. I would take a chance on Long though, guy was a beast.

Direckshun 05-05-2014 08:18 AM

Just want to remind people that this is still happening.

Bowser 05-05-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10602804)
Just want to remind people that this is still happening.

Off with you. Prepare your apology speech for when this doesn't happen.

OldSchool 05-05-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10602804)
Just want to remind people that this is still happening.

Yup.

Saccopoo 05-05-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10602804)
Just want to remind people that this is still happening.

I hope so.

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kcchiefsus 05-06-2014 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10604295)

I hope you get raped in the ass with a broom handle and get splinters.


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