If I need a pitcher for the day, I always look to see who is pitching against the Royals first.

I cut Billy Butler off my fantasy team for ****ing Chris collabello. **** you royals

So we were speculating i.e. just looking for some answers at the sports bar today(actually watched the game on mlb game mix) that if we as sports fans can see how inept Yost is as a manager can't the players see it even more?

Point being they play for their checks but overall have no real leadership and are questioning the management and ownership thus leading to if they don't really care why should we?

Again just speculating and looking for some discussion.

Sounds like I got off easy by not tuning in for this turd.

I think the most obvious answer is that the players know that the manager has little affect on the outcome of the game and that they each have to do their job.

They like that he takes the heat and deflects it from them, even when they play poorly. Now players do question managers all the time, but not to the point that there would be any type of mutiny or outright hatred towards them in the majority of situations.

And I am not sure why you think they don't care. Or what the relationship is that you perceive to exist between not caring and questioning or not questioning the manager.

I always hear that argument about managers but c'mon if the manager is making decisions that are hurting the team he is making the job of the players even more difficult than it should be.

I'm just fed up as are the guys I was with and even though we played the game on a much much smaller level we played for managers that would not have moved a Butler from 6th back to 4th after only a few days of 6th beginning to show some promise,they would not have pulled a pitcher in a zone in the last inning of a 1-0 game because of a pitch count,they sure as hell wouldn't have moved a Butler from 4th to 3rd who was struggling again and would have given a bench guy a shot and on and on...

Sorry I'm rambling but I hate Yost,any manager that gets fired from a team getting ready to go into the play-offs should have never been rehired in the first place.

Agree or not it's my .02

So you don't want a discussion on players, leadership, and their feelings towards management and how that relationship exists. You just want to complain about Yost. That is fine I guess.

KC has truly had some shitty managers over the past 20 years. Its sad that Yost is probably one of the better ones in that group.

Leadership starts at the top does it not?

Now that is truly a frightening thought seeing that none of those others were fired from a team getting ready to enter the postseason. :shudder:

Maybe the Royals just aren't a good team. Maybe Cleveland is just better, and is run by a superior GM. I didn't watch (and really, why would anyone?) but the recap says we scored our only run on an error.


Our offense is a complete joke and there's very little chance this team finishes over .500. DM had 8 years to build a competent lineup, and it is clear he failed miserably.

I am not sure why you think they don't care or what kind of leadership you expect from the players and how any perceived lack of leadership in the players is Ned's fault. Or what the relationship is that you perceive to exist between not caring and questioning or not questioning the manager.

None of those other guys even got close to the Postseason. unless you count Pena I guess......

The box score says Cory Kluber (who?) went the distance. 1 unearned run with 11k and 0 bb. That's just utterly amazing.

Appreciate the little discussion we had but let's just leave it that I think Yost is a complete idiot and all I want is to complain about him.

Oh I get that but here we are again as KC fans(both Chiefs and Royals) just excited to be in the hunt.I don't know,I'm 51 years old and have exactly one championship in both sports combined that I was old enough to enjoy.

But he's not, really.

The major league baseball manager in the AL is the least-important and least-relevant of all the head coaches in the major American sports. It begins and ends with the GM and the players. The only time the manager is important is if he is bunting too much or making pitchers throw 120+ pitches every day and injuring them.

Aoki, Hosmer, Butler, Gordon, Moose...


0-19. Good grief.....
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Yost is obviously sabotaging them, somehow

Aoki hasn't impressed me much.

The players aren't performing. It's on them. Ned Yost is playing our "best" players. What more do you want him to do? He can't swing the bat for these turds. If all of them continue to suck then it's on our GM as these players suck.

Players/GM, that's the blame.

And **** David Glass.

Yea, he should bench every one of them and play.....errrr....you know.........the other guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Play anybody!!!
Anybody could do better!!!!!

5-10 vs. the AL Central so far. I really don't like the way we matchup with these teams. Cleveland, Chicago, and Minnesota aren't going to have a lot of trouble outscoring us most nights and Detroit has better pitching.

If we're having trouble matching up against shitty teams in this division, which is probably the worst in MLB, then we must really suck ass. I said 79 wins before the year because we weren't going 15-4 vs Minnesota again. I may have overshot.

Chen to the pen, please.

I agree. It feels like he either gets a multi hit game or he goes opher with some strike outs.

Last place-feels familar...

I'm slowly progressing from optimistic to snarky about this damned powerless lineup. Its still April, but after June the next step is surrender and selling at the deadline. Yesterday was a nice little flurry, but they still haven't shown the consistent power needed to not waste our pitching.

Oh, and we're mediocre in what is by far the easiest month on our schedule. If we're really a playoff team, then we were supposed to kill it out there and build a nice lead to defend. Next month doesn't look particularly tough, but it'll be harder than April.

The only guy in the lineup with the ability to hit the ball out of the ballpark is Moose. That's really it.

And he's the worst at making consistent contact.

**** Our Lives.

:facepalm:

If we consistently stroked line drives for doubles I'd probably accept that, with our pitching we could probably make it work, but we're not doing that much either.

Our "studs" that we've been waiting for to produce from their minor league glory days haven't been able to transition that to the big leagues on a consistent basis. The guys were hyped up....but they're not who we all thought they were unfortunately.

We have a bunch of contact hitters. There's ZERO power in this lineup. There's not a pitching staff out there that's afraid to pitch to us. Maybe afraid isn't the correct word...but there's no one on this offense that pitchers have to worry about. I mean it's been over a decade since we've had someone crack the 30HR mark. There's no positive spin you can possibly put on that, it's just sad...esp in the day where 30HR's really isn't anything special anymore.

We don't have anything of value to sell at the deadline, outside of Shields. And DM is loathe to do that because that trade defines his stint. We could get something for Gordon I suppose but he's pretty punchless at the plate too. He's basically a Rusty Greer at this point and those guys don't bring much - look at what little Hunter Pence brought back.