Honestly I'm a Daniel fan have been since he was at Mizzou..I like that he is 2nd string but hate how much his contract is..As of right now I would rather have Daniel as backup..that being said if Bray can come out and beat him to move up then I say cut Daniel and save the money..If Bray can't beat Daniel then cut Bray..I don't think Bray is the best option just because he is cheaper..I would rather have a quarterback who can keep you some what competitive..Daniel did pretty well in the Charger game at the end of the year..I think if the coaches were wanting to keep Bray or get him more experience than they would of played him in the game instead..I don't think Bray is that good..physically he has way more going than Daniel but I don't think he can figure out the system..He has the talent and the ability to grow but if he can't learn the system than he is just taking up a roster spot

Either way the coaches go I trust it's the best option and that's all I care about

Not sure he's ever said that. He went to Utah, not BYU.

I'd be surprised if Bray is on the roster but if it happens I think it'll be more because they think Murray could possibly fill in a game or two if needed.

Neither. Cut Alex Smiff /inmem, wendler, and the other Smith haters

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@mr_tomahawk It’s easy to fall in love with Bray’s arm. He has lots of natural talent.

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@mr_tomahawk Chase has had some bad throws but it’s tough to really know how each is doing without all-22 film or a rewind button

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Daniel is garbage. He almost won a game against San Diego in Matt Flynn style. I remember when people were oohing and ahhing Flynn's huge game in Green Bay years ago, I watched that game and he was throwing nothing but dump-offs and 1-read passes. That's what Daniel did all game long.

The real reason the Chiefs stayed in the game was because of Knile Davis and the defense. That being said, Murray and Bray are so raw that they can't be NFL ready. I'd keep Daniel but cut him the minute Murray is ready to be a backup, which I don't think will take long.

So cut Bray?

Keep 4 QBs until Chase is ready to go. Hopefully Murray impresses soon enough.

Can't Keep Daniel at his salary if they want to extend guys like Smith and Houston.

With the size of our coaching staff, we should be keeping the younger guys with the most upside.

So Daniel played like a good backup QB? What the hell did you expect? Him to go out there and fling the ball like Aaron Rodgers?
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This is some stupid logic. You don't get a backup QB to win the Superbowl. You get him to at the very least keep you in 1 or 2 games until the starter comes back. Expecting and asking for more is unrealistic. And I have no reason to believe Bray can win or keep us in games so far. Meanwhile, I've actually seen Daniel do it and I'd much rather trust him with that task over Bray.
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When you got Houston and smith looking for contracts sooner rather than later. Boogers gone. Seems the writing is on the wall . I hate to do it but I'm writing us off as not Super Bowl contenders this year lol . So save the money extended our core pieces keep chugging. Smith goes out for a game or two this year well either find out who's got it or draft higher.

Maybe Daniel due to his salary. But he is a great backup QB. In hence in the season finale nearly win at SD!

Cut his pay check down and say they made a mistake on giving him that much money.

As of right now, Murray is the worst QB on the team. He'd be more likely to go than either Daniel or Bray.

So, let's keep Daniel and let Flowers walk w/o compensation?

I'm going to barf.

How are the two of them comparable?
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More than likely Murray is better than Bray.
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Based on what?

Well.....

Both have contracts that may not be attractive to prospective buyers? That said, with our secondary being a complete mystery at this point, wouldn't you rather let Alex play his contract out and keep the sure thing in the secondary?

Releasing Flowers does nothing to clear space for the Dept. of Game Mgmt.

Based on?

Camp reports.

:rolleyes: Murray has been with the team for how long?

Bray will be the one who's cut. He had a whole season and doesn't grasp the offense. Barring a deal with the devil during training camp this year, he's done.

He's showed improvement in camp thus far. Aren't we looking for improvement?







Jebus, does anyone read the camp reports?

If you're paying a guy four mill I would hope you can be better than a faster version of Matt Flynn. I have realistic standards for what a backup should be. Daniel is nowhere near the top but he sure gets paid like it.

My guess is they sneak Bray onto the PS.

Daniel will be cut after the season and Murray and Bray battle for #2.

My guess is they get the Alex Smith deal done.

They do, they just don't want to Braylieve.

Bray will be the odd man out.

Fatty fat fat

@Jacobs71: . @ChaseDaniel arriving in Saint Joseph. #ChiefsTrainingCamp http://t.co/dHDoh2SGZm

He was hilarious on Leno

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Yes, and they don't mean much, especially when everyone is in shorts. We'll see how he looks in pads against a pass rush...

If Alex Smith was throwing picks left and right, this place would be flipping a shit...

We wouldn't be saying, "hardy-harr they are in shorts so it doesn't matter..."

Bray times 1,000.

Both times eleventy billion. !

Hope and no Change?

Sweet God; is Daniel gone yet?

Is death an option?

Dude, you are a ****ing dumbass. Like Sorter, you are very overrated.

This team isn't about winning? Even if they weren't, is that the message they'd send to the players?

This is like the Geno shit part deux.

Daniel. If Smith goes down then it doesn't really matter but we might as well see what one of the one guys can do for the future.

You're a ****ing reerun, Bob. Don't you think if the players really thought to themselves, "The veteran backup was cut? The coaching staff must not care about winning this year!" that they'd be doing the same ****ing thing to the Brandon Flowers release?

The players should rebel! Viva la resistance!

What? I was just saying the organization is about winning. The moves they are making are about winning.

I called the Brandon Flowers release here months ago. I hoped for a trade but knew it would be tough. He didn't fit anymore. The writing was on the wall. All I got was the Welker argument. I did the same thing with Bowe a couple of years ago and got killed for it. He ****ing sucks too. The homerism here is outrageous.

As far as Daniels goes, the coaching staff really wanted him here. They overpaid for the dude. He almost won in San Diego with the back ups last year. Bray is a douchebag and that's why he didn't get drafted. He's a long shot at best. We drafted another QB because Bray's a douchebag. Does Bray even want to play?

Just keeping it real. I guess I'm not really a hypothetical thread kind of guy.

There is no chance Daniel gets cut. This type of thread is still around because of the "Must develop our own QB. It's the only way." brainwashing bullshit. It's just more of the same Mob Mentality 101 class Captain Geno.

"Just keeping it real" translation: I don't understand the difference between opinion and fact.

I gave my opinion last night. I gave the facts today.

Opinion: Cut Bray

Fact: Daniels won't get cut because the Chiefs are trying to win now.

Aaaaand we go back to what keg was just saying...

The difference between fact and opinion is that opinion's don't require explanations and facts do. Just like my post above that you quoted.

You can't possibly be this stupid LMAO

Opinion: Bray has no heart. Cut his ass.

Fact: The Chiefs are trying to win now.

Better? LOL

Stupid is this thread. It's just as good as the "who's better: Alex or Geno?" thread.

Bitter much SNR?

No it's not better, you flaming butt. Try again.

How the **** do you surmise that Bray "has no heart"?

Since we haven't seen them on the field for off-season practices, we don't really have any facts to base the current status of the competition on, JMO. A week from now we'll have some practice performances to base the current status of the competition on. Patience please.

I'm going to go with "opinion" on that one. There's too much evidence to the contrary for it to be a fact.

I hate Chase Daniel, and all of his Missouriness, but cut Bray. And it's not even close. Daniel showed that he might be a formidable back up. We don't know dick about Bray except that he is immature. We aren't looking for starting QB talent, we are looking at a guy that can not lose games if Smith is out. If you have this pipe dream that Bray will end up being the next Tom Brady, you are going to be very disappointing.

Really? Daniel over Bray? Alrighty then.

bullshit

complete and utter bullshit

nothing about this offseason indicates that they are in 'win now' mode

They are trying to win now. Not a Superbowl but, a playoff game for sure. We had enough talent on the roster to let a lot of people walk. We'll be better than people think.

And that would be a... fact?

No. No, it would not.

It's obvious to anyone who doesn't spend 90% of his time at this place. Go watch the last Chargers game again. We are deep as Kloster's wife.

We'll be lucky to win 7.

enough talent to let people walk but not enough talent to win in the playoffs?

You NEVER have enough talent to let people walk without replacing them

our offense sucked in the 1st half of the season
our defense sucked in the 2nd half of the season

Young talent can always surprise you but on paper this offseason looks like a gigantic fail to me

Yep- I would have to agree with this assessment. Looks like a throw away season with hopes of a better cap situation next year along with more draft choices. If Alex has a better year- they will Franchise him so he can groom his own replacement.

Can a mod fix the embarrassing error in the title?

I was just watching the Red Zone, seams the knock on Bray is good arm, doesn't know what to do in the pocket?

Good interview with Hicks after that, didn't know we picked him up as an undrafted free agent.

Daniel***

There is absolutely NO "s" in his last name. NOT ONE

Why doesn't he just change his name to Daniels.

I'd cut Bray. He's got a nice arm but that's about it. Daniel is way more valuable on and off the field. Especially in the film room. I'd be surprised if we kept two young QBs over Daniel. It just doesn't work that way very often. He would have to really show a lot on and off the field.

BOO!

Daniel. Its all about Money and I would rather pay Houston and/or Smith

I picture you looking at those poll results with tears streaming down your face.

(Note: I picture you actually being John C. Reilly, which makes the mental image even better)

Because I'm not a dumbass, I wouldn't make decisions like this until I'd actually seen the training camp and preseason games shake out.

If Bray or Murray take giant steps forward, it might make more sense to trade Daniel when another team has something bad happen.

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I'll say it now, I think Bray gets the ax but it should be Daniel. #Chiefs.



I has sad. :(

Is there a chance they keep all four for this year? I kind of see Murray as Daniel/backup replacement, but he certainly can't do that this year. I also think they really *want* Bray to develop in the the man, but that won't be this year either. All this stuff needs a year to shake out properly.

While we probably don't cut Daniel, I would take what that dipshit says with a grain of salt

Got to see how the preseason unfolds until suggesting this too

Me too. Lol.
Just noticed it.

@Jacobs71: Two things that people keep getting hung up on 1) Bray isn't going anywhere. It's Murray vs Daniel. Bray has an elite arm.