LMAO

Prolly not. If he does well there, good for him, he just wasn't here, for whatever reason. Who knows, if our guys still suck, then that'll mean Alex and the O-line need to have their balls cut off with a dull rusty knife...

I like Bowe, but this is ridiculous.

Sean is pretty good, may as well admit it.

You understand how the salary cap works, don't you? Bowe didn't get an additional $9 million from the Chiefs. The $9 million was the prorated money left from his original signing bonus (money he already had in the bank). Had the Chiefs waited till post June 1, the prorated money would have been divided between this and next years cap. Bowe will receive this years signing bonus and base salary from the Browns, thats it... Nothing less, nothing more.

ROFL

1st best QB was Matt Cassel, obviously.

I think you're being too harsh.

Chiefs aren't shit. I know they didn't make the playoffs last year but this ain't a shitty football team. Two winning seasons in a row and fans like you are still saying they're shit? Come on now, be a little more optimistic.

One of the longest playoff win droughts in the league. One of the longest Super Bowl win droughts in the league..

We're competitive now but nobody's out there checking for us. We've got a long way to go.

I think you're wrong.

We don't have a long way to go. This roster is well built and has come a long way over the years. We are probably not championship caliber but if they fix that offensive line and address depth at a few other positions, the Chiefs will be fine.

Don't agree at all, Virus. With a decent draft that will add talent to this team, I think we'll be very close to being SB contenders. Let's say we pick up the following in the draft: CB, WR, TE, OL. We're loaded on the defensive side of the ball, and our offense should be much improved with Maclin, Grubbs and another WR, OL and TE.

I think we're starting to look like the Chiefs of old.....back in the day when they went to the SB more than once in a lifetime.

The fly in the ointment is our QB; but man, he came alive in that playoff game. There's something in there.....we just need to see more of it! Hopefully, the help he'll receive on the offensive side of the ball will provide just what he needs to become more productive as needed. Hey, he's never gonna be Captain ChuckIt, but with some help, I suspect he'll become something more than Captain CheckDown. We can get there with Alex.

Meh. This kind of confirms what I've been saying about him. No one considers Him a #1 anymore. He's a decent #2 now. 700-800 yard guy who can get 900 on a real good year. That weed charge was one of the best things to happen to the Chiefs. Would have been OK with him coming back with a pay cut but not too bummed out that he's gone.
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r u ****ing kidding me? This is what is wrong with 80% of this franchise's fan base. Until we get a LEGITIMATE Quarterback that can put this team on his shoulders and march down the field we aint gonna win shit! :cuss:

Now where has it been proven in ALL of Chiefs history that you can't win a 'ship with a breathing body behind Center and a squad stacked Pro-Bowler-


Oh.

Why did they sign him after all the off the field issues with Josh Gordon? Isn't Bowe like one suspension away from missing 8 games?

Because they know excellence when they see it, that's why.

They would. Lebron plays in Cleveland, right? Maybe he and Bowe can workout together.

That would be ****ing sweet, and I'd buy the T-shirt.

Johnny Manziel

Josh Gordon

Dwayne Bowe

Words fail me.

I was half expecting him to end up there on a one year prove it deal. I think he would have excelled with Haley coaching him up and Roethlisberger throwing him the ball. Good for the rest of the league he chose anonymity over a contender.

Yes, if there is one thing that comes to mind when I hear the word excellence, it's the Cleveland Browns

Ray Farmer is an......exceptional...man. :facepalm:

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"D-Bowe will go to another team and rape faces!!!'-CP

"Alex Smith will be great for KC"!-no one.

Except that one guy with a peg-leg and twitchy eye.

That gif is ****ing awesome.

Burt Reynolds cheese movies from the 70's are the ****ing greatest.

Creepy Rob Lowe?

Alex Smith will improve. Don't worry.

He has the right receiver in the right system. Once he develops chemistry with Maclin our offense will be a legit threat. Give him a better offensive line that won't allow the pocket to collapse most of the time on passing downs and Im confident he can make his throws.

I think that's one of the reasons he struggled to come from behind last year in games. Mcglynn and Fulton just completely sucked ass in pass proctection and Alex didn't have enough time to step up in the pocket and make his throws. He either had to take the sack, throw it away a lot of times. I just don't feel we've seen the best of him yet simply because he hasn't been in a good enough position to succeed. That's on Reid and Dorsey.

**** yeah. Downloading Hooper right now.

LMAO

Sumpin' like that.

I need to re-watch 'Gator' one of these days.

No its money you already paid that was spread out over the contract.

Cassel too!

Did anyone post the Twitter of bowe looking forward to meeting the dawg pound in the endzone

Just saw this.

Sounds about right

Alex Smith will never get a receiver over 1000 yards.

And it's not anyone else's fault but his.

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I don't necessarily agree with this because of the way passing yards are calculated.

I think it's entirely possible that a guy like Maclin or Wilson or any other speedster, something the Chiefs haven't had in decades, could take short passes and turn them into big gainers that add up to 1,000 yards or more by season's end.

But I do agree that if it happens, it likely won't be because Smith threw the ball down field and connected dozens and dozens of times for it to happen.

Barring Maclin's missed season due to injury, he has averaged 69 catches a year. Alex Smith has averaged 11 yards per completed pass over his career and has sustained that average over his last four seasons of play.

Combine those two averages and Maclin is a roughly 750~ yard receiver..

Philly also had DeSean Jackson, Brent Celek and Shady.

Do your research so you don't embarrass yourself.

As much.

The Chiefs should put Maclin in the slot. Let him move around at the LOS to get some easy separation.

Want to bet that Maclin gets 1000+ this season?
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"Do my own research."
...



Okay, fine. The number one receiving "threat" in terms of total yardage in Andy Reid's offense has only had a thousand yards of receiving four times: Terrell Owens in '04 with 1200 and 15.6 yards per reception in 2004, Kevin Curtis in '07 with 1100 and 14.4 y/r, and DeSean Jackson in '09 and '10 with 1156 and 1056 and yards per catch marks of 18.6 and 22.5 respectively.

Under Reid, Maclin was the number one receiver by yardage once where he recorded 857 yards with a 12.4 yards per catch average in 2012. His career average of yards per season is 954 coming in from a yards per catch average of 13.8. For comparison, he totaled 1318 total yards last season with 15.5 yards per catch.

Now, at this point you can disregard what I'm about to say with the retort that Smith has never had a receiver worth a shit and I totally expect that. With this in mind, in the seasons where Alex Smith has started 15+ games, his top receivers in terms of yards per catch that don't include gadget plays with the likes of Isaac Sopoaga and Joe Staley as eligible receivers read as follows:

Bryan Gilmore with 18.8 y/r over 8 catches, Antonio Bryant with 18.3 y/r over 40 catches and Vernon Davis y/r with 13.3 over 20 catches in 2006.

Josh Morgan with 14.7 y/r on 15 catches in 2011.

AJ Jenkins with 16.3 y/r on 6 catches and Donnie Avery with 14.9 y/r on 40 catches in 2013.

Albert Wilson 16.3 y/r over 16 catches,Travis Kelce with 12.9 y/r over 67 catches in 2014 and Dwayne Bowe with 12.6 y/r over 60 catches in 2014.

... along with every other primary receiver getting around 12 yards a catch or less in the four seasons (2006, 2011, 2013, 2014) where Alex Smith started 15 or more games.

You take Maclin's, Reid's and Alex Smith's histories into consideration it seems to me that it's more likely that Jeremy Maclin will not have 1,000 yards under Andy Reid given that the only time's that has happened in his career as a coach is when the second and third receiving options were guys who you could count on both to get 600+ yards along with the fact that Maclin himself has only eclipsed 900+ yards twice in his short career and the fact that receivers who play with Smith aren't generally in a position to get the necessary amount of yards per catch to gain more than 1,000 yards.

I'm interested. How much can you afford to lose?

Things happen for reasons. You are stretching with your deductive nonsense that they somehow don't care the guys most suited for yards don't get them when they need to get yards.

Reid had great defenses with Jim Johnson for years.
Alex Smith has had great defenses for years.
They've had great RBs to use.

This funnels the game-plan to a type they are fond of to begin with. Ball control and runs/short passes.

McNabb only had 2 seasons with a lot of passes. 2nd year was meh. 2008 was a year Philly got to 4000 yards.

It was an ultra-Reid type year. Desean was the shot guy mostly and got 900.
The craziness is...
Hank Baskett
Brian Westbrook
Kevin Curtis
Jason Avant
Avg. of 400 yards each

Correll Buckhalter
Brent Celek
L.J. Smith
Reggie Brown
Greg Lewis
Avg. of 300 yards each


But when things didn't go well. Worse defense, 2 strong WRs.
2010...
Desean 1000 yards
Maclin 900

2011...
Both were 1000 if they played 16 games

Name the stakes. Im for just about anything.
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The slot requires "tight" windows. Windows that by Alex-standard are...unpossible.

You can count me in for 20 on this.

Best of luck, Dwayne... :shake:

I was going to buy a Bowe jersey but now he with the Browns I'll pass. Good luck Bowe with your new team you can finally wear your old college jersey number.

This is what a season of 0 rec TD gets you.

I see a box office hit in 2019 when Dwayne and Johnny remake Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle.

I wonder how many years he'll be doing at Cleveland Folsom?

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After dropping two consecutive balls in the prior game, Bowe gets the TD.


The more things change.....

:popcorn:

He will now be their 3rd down ADD of the hands disappointment:rolleyes:

Sure

Yeah, that was pretty funny.LMAO

I wonder if Bowe is selling his Ronald McDonald edition Dodge Charger

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

Andy deals pot?

LMAO

Pot has nothing to do with Andy's horizontal offense.

Nor does Pot have anything to do with Andy Reid's love affair with Alex Smith...

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JFC That is dumb as all hell

Whats the saying here if you don't like a player? "haters gonna hate!"?

Smell that burning river in the lot!

it's hilarious that the dip**** lackey to Clay (ROR) thinks Sean Smith is bad because his PFF rank was low the year we signed him

what a ****ing moron

How about showing all of the highlights after Bowe got paid and became a lazy POS that couldnt run or score after the catch?

Bowe is gone because he didnt perform. /end thread

It wasnt a cap move because KC was willing to pay a WR similar cap money as Bowe to do the things Bowe was being paid to do. If Bowe did those things Macklin wouldnt even had been a consideration.

Lazy POS? How about you post some more non-sense.

Dude was a beast blocking in the run game.

Of course, you wouldn't know anything about that.

And he never complained.

Easy there...

I am not a Blowe Pop...


Blowe never elevated this team or put this team on his back to win championships.

He is a JAG.

He was let go because they realized he just was not a good fit for this offense. He'd lost some speed.

And I'll bet he'll never say anything negative about the Chiefs.

WRs don't do this, QBs do. Your schtick really ****ing sucks.

See post 232. When you command that kind of money in FA to stay with the tram that drafted you then you are expected to perform. He didnt. Stop making excuses because he "could block downfield." Thats horseshit and you know it.

Sometimes people need a fresh start. I hope things workout well for Bowe.

So, you disagree with what I posted because "reasons". Ooookay.

Notice how it didn't work for Philly due to their playoff record, where in the Eagles' best season since their SB run they got bounced in the NFC title game by a Cards team that had downfield passing capability with Warner / Fitzgerald / Breaston et all and how it really hasn't worked for KC in Reid's two seasons here.

Also, note Reid's performance since Johnson died.



See above.

Here's the fun part: you are admitting Maclin isn't going to get 1,000 yards unless the defense sucks and the Chiefs are forced to pass due to playing from behind or because he doesn't have DeSean Jackson playing alongside him.


... unfortunately for you, this pretty much jives with the data I've posted about in brief earlier in this thread.

Now, do the Chiefs have someone with Jackson's skillset at WR? Not at the moment. Wilson might be that guy one day, but it's incredibly wishful thinking that Albert Wilson as a second year UDFA out of a school that wasn't even Division I until last season is going to come close to putting up the stats Jackson did in his second year. Again, Wilson could very well be that guy someday but it's incredibly unlikely he'll surpass the bar set by other great UDFAs such as Wayne Chrebet, Rod Smith and Wes Welker.

Jason Avant isn't going to fool anyone into thinking he has DeSean Jackson-esque capabilities and Da'Rick Rogers (another UDFA) is a complete unknown outside of one game where he flashed great numbers against a good regular season team in Cincinnati but also is a poster boy for "character issues."

So unless the Chiefs draft a receiver with DeSean Jackson upside or hit the figurative lottery signing an extremely gifted UDFA pass catcher, it's defensible and logical to assume that Jeremy Maclin will -in fact- not get 1,000 yards based on Reid's track record with receivers (four 1,000+ yard guys in 16 seasons), Alex Smith's track record in connecting with receivers enough times or for enough yards at a time to get enough chances at 1,000 yards and because of Maclin's personal history along with the notion that Maclin can only get close to 1,000 yards *if* he's being thrown to nearly a hundred times *or* because he has a receiver of DeSean Jackson's caliber on the field with him.