Much better!!!

Another down from the legendary class of Sep 2005...

I am legendary.

Who are you?

I'm sorry. I don't subscribe to WPI's poster ranking services.

Dude...He's legendary.

He's The Legendary you illiterate ****.

September Aught Five.

You know what this feels like? Like these dudes are coming out of the woodwork for a showdown. To the death.

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I suggest to the pain and not the death.

link?

Started about right here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=293188&page=3

I'll never get these posts. Never. It's a ****ing message board FFS. When I leave, it will be because the board is no longer here or I'm dead. o:-)

Going DOOOOWWWWWWWWWNNN in a BLAAAAAAZE of GLORY!

Lord, I never drew first, but I drew first blood. I'm no one's son. Call me the Young Gun...

ADIOS OTWP.

Personally, I'm amazed the website is still up and running. It feels like home to me.

4 years older than facebook. Heh. #OldSchool

#OTWP may hate it since the Royals are doing so well now? Haha.

come back when alex smith grows a dick or leaves the chiefs please

I blame this on 20+ years of playoff failure

factory of sadness claims another

Took a 7 month break a while back. Agree 100&

Wow. He was generally a well informed, quality poster but that Andy Reid thread was brutal. Tapping out because of billay and bosschief has to be one of the weakest ways to go out.

This board is gold, Jerry. Gold!

It's not just winning one playoff game - but building a team the way the Royals have done. I feel like we were on the right path, but pissed away a few good players and then stopped drafting well. A team of also-rans that goes 10-6 and wins one playoff game isn't going to do a lot to shake me out of my Chiefs torpor I feel.

Yet how many people wanted Dayton and Ned fired midseason last year?

LMAO

Well, bye.

There's really only one difference between saying "I am leaving forever" and saying "Look at me, I'm an attention whore".

The second statement is the honest one.

IT'S A****ING PIECE OF CLOTH

Does this have anything to do with Inmen being MU'd?

No, it has to do with Axl Smiff homers.

I just read Billay's "Andy Reid" thread, and it was hilarious. OTWP tried to attack Reid/Dorsey by making statements that were, to put it mildly, factually incorrect. To put it accurately, they were outright lies.

When other posters called him on it, OTWP decided to get all pissy about it and leave.

OTWP, hate to see you bail, but I get it. I frequent here less and less myself. Perhaps it's the off season? As I've gotten older, and as the NFL has gotten greedier, it's been harder and harder to be a passionate fan of the league, let alone the Chiefs. Anyhow, I've always hated the leaving forever threads. It's ok to leave, come back, take a break, whatever, but I hope you don't really bow out permanently. If so, enjoy the season man.

gracias

LMAO god I ****ing hate Matt Cassel. Can't believe that ****er stole $50-60M from this franchise.

He's a shit-tier poster.

That's disappointing, though like a few others, I do question the narrative a little bit here.

This board hasn't become a 'homer' board. Admittedly the mood is more optimistic than it has been in many MANY years (perhaps ever), but shouldn't that be the case?

For the sake of discussion, let's just briefly set aside the QB position (we'll get back to it, don't worry). Is it a stretch at all to say that this is the most talented team overall that we've seen in 25 years? I can't speak to the old timers, but that's my duration as a fan and to my eyes, this team has more ability at more places than any Chiefs team of my lifetime.

Sure, it has holes, but welcome to a cap league. Every team has holes. I'd like to have an established #2 WR. I'd like to have a steadier OL and Ted Backer. But hey - scarce resources; you take what you can get. And at least we have some high upside plays in those thinner positions.

As to the QB position - I think it was Boss that said it, but if you just cannot enjoy any Chiefs team because we have an average QB, then perhaps he's right - stepping away may be the way to go. Yeah, he's a boring option that does little to elevate his teams but we're 3 years down the road now. If you're still carping about Alex Smith when he's been a solid but unspectacular QB for us, you're not going to be happy so I guess you're better served divesting, at least until the Chiefs make the play at QB that you'd like to see made (and c'mon, with Andy Reid here, I do expect they'll make that play when they opportunity meets motivation).

Chiefsplanet's core constituency isn't any different than it's ever been, IMO. You still have about 25% of the board that's endlessly optimistic and another 25% of the board that's endlessly pessimistic. The 50% in the middle are what control the character of the board. Right now that 50% is pretty happy with where the team is trending. Even people like Dane and me that have generally sided very much on the negative side of the ledger are very excited about the direction of the team. That's not being a homer - that's simply appreciating the efforts of a competent leadership team.

There are still smart posters here (especially now that I'm back for a spell), but CP is actually less of an echo chamber than it was 4 years ago. The membership hasn't changed as much as the outlooks of the members has, and with good cause, IMO.

Yeah, I couldn't believe that someone would leave over what happened there. It was mild and polite compared to most football threads.

I guess there's always that cognative dissonance feeling that happens when you start to realize that the facts don't fit your opinions and it makes you uncomfortable.

It has always been an anti-homer board. The majority opinion here has nearly always been pessimism.

Right, but that's because there's been ample cause for it.

It wasn't populated by 75% pessimistic posters, it's just that the 50% in the middle were given good reason to be down on the team's prospects.

Now the opposite is true. There are good reasons to be excited about the upcoming season and the 50% in the middle are probably 35-15 to the favorable side right now. So when you add in the original 25% eternal optimists, you're looking at a 60/40 lean towards the positive side of the ledger right now.

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

BossChief kind of cracks me up. He's that soft, nice kind of huge douche who makes outlandish predictions and is the ultimate homer while trying to maintain that he isn't a homer, all the while thinking he's some sort of "incredible" football mind who could run a front office better than 2/3 of the NFL. It's cute, in a giant douchey kind of way.

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

Neg repping is a pretty cowardly way to attack somebody. If someone doesn't have the balls to post his criticism in the public threads, he doesn't have any business hiding behind a neg rep.

But I wouldn't let a single poster run me off just because he neg repped me. I've received a few neg reps now and again myself.

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

Always the voice of reason.

IMO, these threads are dumb. I thought much, much higher of you OTWP. Threads like these are for shitty posters.

Don't take my previous post personally. I was referring to neg reps in general. Sounds like you're not one of those guys.

I feel like Boss was left out a lot in life and he tries to make up for it here

I wanted us to trade for Alex Smith (but didn't want to spend more than a third to get him) AND draft a QB high in the draft. My preference was Geno Smith. I wanted Alex to be a placeholder for a young QBOTF. I even called for sitting Geno 2 years if we drafted him.

I've always been in the "draft the best QB you can and build around him" guy...and always will be. But, hey...we got Eric Fisher. I'm actually interested to see how Geno does with a creative OC in Chan Gailey and some weapons at WR to work with. The third year is when most QBs start to "get it" and if we had drafted him and developed him, who knows. I was probably wrong on that one, but hey. Can't win em all.

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

Geno Smith sucks and always will.

BossGlazer is such a jerk ! Not sharing those videos with the public !

Most of the long time posters don't post anymore. More lurking than posting.

That's bull, too. I just looked at all of my rep given going back to 12/13 and haven't found a single rep like that. Not 1. Maybe there is one from before that, but I don't think so. Also, I've never sent a rep message that I didn't already say what I had to say in the actual thread. Keep trying.

If you'd like, I can post a screen cap of my reps given.

we really want to see 'em, Boss!!! Yeah! Post them!!

Don't forget StanziMania.

You sent me this neg-rep.

Because I agreed with this post by King in the "Save Our Chiefs" thread.

And here's the screen cap if you don't believe me.

And here's a pos-rep of you questioning what I have against you. Clay created the ****ing thread.

And I generally DON'T have a problem with you. The times that I do....it's because your attitude is "Hey everyone.....remember when I said this!?!?". Or "looks like I was right about this."

NFL.com:

I actually agree with BossChief on Geno Smith. I think he'll succeed with Gailey as his OC this year. Plus his weapons are fantastic now.

Wow, I had to go back a long way to find those. 2 1/2 years for 1 and 3 years for the other.

Crazy how you remember that stuff.

I sent my message to Path and in less than 10 minutes, he was complaining about it in the thread as if I hadn't already said as much in the thread. Seems he checked his rep quite often and placed a lot of weight to it.

My rep was basically exactly what others here have told him in this thread...that if he can't enjoy the Chiefs (and he didn't, he even said he stopped watching some of the games) he might want to take a break.

The only reason I even sent him a neg was because he wanted to call names. After getting his bs thrown back at him...same as any other poster that claims that "the Chiefs were basically a .500 team before Reid/Dorsey got here that only had one bad year. It's not like they were bad for 5+ years"

C'mon man, anybody that says that is gonna get it questioned.

If you are up for it please keep posting in the NHL thread. Hell only about 6-7 of us will still know you are around.

LMAO

I totally agree. I know for me I hold no hope for this team winning anything until they address the most important position on the field. As far as this year I know alot of people here are optimistic about this team but they better hope they start out 2-2 or the season is over before it even begins.

No, I meant you are shit.

No. No, I didn't.
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To make up for this lack of respect for the English language, I leave you with this bit of insight:
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At most any point in the site's history, CP would have fired the Chiefs' head coach, chief's GM, flushed the whole staff, fired the Royals manager and GM, executed the owner, bencheded the Chiefs' starting QB, flushed most of the roster, and fired both Missouri and Kansas' football coaches. It's not affected by where a team is at the moment. There are few exceptions, like the Royals, but this place is massively, systemically pessimistic for some reason beyond what a middling team would expect. The Browns fans are probably more optimistic than CP is.

The draft tabulators did not start that act with the Geno-is-God offseason

Because alot of us are tired of being a middling team. We have seen to many teams go from shit to being in the SB in a matter of 2-3 years yet this team hasn't won a playoff since 1993. It is embarrassing.

I absolutely agree but I don't think that truly happened until 2011.

I railed against the hiring of Pioli and Haley and absolutely hated their first draft, and people were like "WTF? Give it time. He's not the Executive of the Year for nothing, Bro!".

The real pessimism started in 2011, with the loss of Berry and Charles, the firing of Haley (the firing was justified and the right decision, IMO, although many against it) and the quick hiring of Crennel. And of course, we're all familiar with Eric's efforts, which grew into Save Our Chiefs, which ultimately led to the firing of Pioli's regime and the hiring of Dorsey and Reid.

Now, there's far too much impatience, especially for a team with two consecutive winning seasons, and a young roster, in which we've seen growth over the past two seasons, due to coaching. This franchise is finally headed in the right direction for the first time since 1989 but it seems that too many people "hate" them so much for the subpar seasons of yesteryear that they'll stop at nothing to remind everyone, ad nauseam, how bad they were in the past, as if that has any relevance to the present.

Yeah, but that's not how it goes. Any optimism is characterized as stupid, even cautious optimism when it's warranted.

This isn't a team that goes 4-12 every year, it often has winning records and sometimes makes playoff appearances. Sure, everyone wants more, but people acting like the team makes 0% of their decisions correctly is dumb.

And there is another section of people who will scream from the rooftops about how this season is going to be different and you aren't a fan if you can't see that. Guys like RunKC and staylor26 who consistently bash people because they question about if a player can do something or not (i.e. Chris Conley is the steal of the draft! Go put him on Alabama's offense and he would have caught 26 TDs!!!). For every pessimist who clouds the pool......there's another optimist doing the same ****ing thing.

So, your realistic expectation was to go from 2-14 to a Super Bowl in 2 years?

This team is gonna win a playoff game this year.

You can't be surprised when people around here can't see it.

I just ignore them, seriously, by skimming over their posts or by using the Ignore function. Inmem was an insufferable prick that I had on ignore for months, so it wasn't even until a thread was started that I realized he had wore out his welcome, not just with me, but with everyone.

The bottom line is somewhere in the middle for me: There's a really good chance this could be an epic season and yet, there's a really good chance that it could be another somewhat disappointing season.

But from my POV, the glass is more than half full regarding my expectations for 2015 and beyond under Dorsey & Reid, regardless of the current QB, which seems to be where all the fuss is concentrated.

Literally no one says that.

This logic pisses me off and it's not just because you're the one espousing it; it's a common as dirt narrative.. and I already know how you're going to counter this so go ahead and flame a-****ing-way:

Your realistic expectation was to go from 10-6 to a Super Bowl in four years?

Patience would be easier to have if they were breaking in a young quarterback. But you go out and trade for "franchise QB" who was 28/29, that's a win ****ing now move. So you better win and win big. Especially with a roster that was talented to begin with, just needed coaching which Reid provided.

Is my sarcasm meter broke?

Stay Golden, pony Boy.




I'd like to point out for those whining about these threads that they aren't a cry for attention, they are an Obligation to the board. This is your chance to fall on a grenade for the greater good of your brothers, and the booger eating morons in your unit by association.

and then there's me... A guy who understands that the level of optimism or pessimism has absolutely no bearing on jack shit.

We haven't even had a full pad practice let alone play a game. The crowing about what we'll do this season is more about the need for someone to inflate their obviously depleted ego.

Exactly.

A huge portion of CP thinks this is just "another time going to the same movie expecting it to end differently" and IMO nothing could be further from the truth.


I'm just working on my next "I told you so" stuff. :evil:

Just checked my neg reps. I have given ONE since 2010, and that was in 2012 for a neg pile on Jiu Jitsu Jon.

Ya'll are a bunch of Fn Women.