He does have a point and I am not pointing fingers at him or you here just an observation.

There is a difference between being worried, and stressed and being negative.

Our odds are probably 20% or something. But its still fun.

I'd rather have my doubts and be proven otherwise than be clamoring how wonderful things are and just be crushed by false hope.


I do have hope because I allow my hopes to be such and I've had those hopes because I'm not discounting anything the Chiefs are doing nor counting them out because what they did last year was phenomenal to say the least from going 0-5 to winning a playoff game. So there is something to this team and I believe they have Grit that rubbed off from the Royals.

I can easily talk myself into believing but the fear of being disappoint is still there.

Although I don't see any reason we can't win it all the stars are aligned

If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl then by Gawds so can Alex Smith

I hope Alex Smith proves myself and other doubters wrong and excels in the playoffs, but his erratic play this year that has been bailed out by timely turnovers and defensive/special teams TD's make this team reek of the 1995 team.

I am hoping things turn out differently, but we'll see.

If the defense can both slow the scoring of the opposition AND create a TD or two out the deal, then it wouldn't be necessary for the offense to score outside of its normal paradigm.

Now that's a TALL order, especially against teams of the caliber that KC will be facing in the playoffs, but unless Andy Reid has more gadgetry stuffed in to his back pocket, that's pretty much how it's going to have to be.

What you can NOT do, is allow either of those teams to get on a roll at 10 or more points greater than you. If that happens, forget about it.

Too cold, it was barely 70 degrees today. :D

Or they could just grow some balls.

Didn't we just do that...when was it? Oh right, it was YESTERDAY.

I've been a fan for 45 years. From your immature posts I'm guessing that is longer than you've been alive.

FYP. You clearly haven't lived through some of the Chiefs postseason failures judging by your ignorant posts.

Or maybe you are just naturally a dumbshit.

The only reason the Chiefs have to win the way you described above is because of the limitations of Alex Smith.

JFC you must amaze yourself with your level of stupidity.

I'm only 43 and been a fan since 1987. I've been through the coach that shall remain nameless in the 90s debacles. Endured the goonther years. Cried with GPA. Survived the dark ages with Herm then Pioli cronies. Now living in the buffet line with Bubbles.

If a fan can endure that without Belchering himself. Well I'll say he's earned the right to be reserved about postseason potential when it comes to the franchise that wrote the book on mediocrity and playoff hopes with noise...

So hears the deal. I excited as anyone, nervous and anxious.... But if they do go full Chiefs in the playoffs I won't be disappointed... Why? Because Chiefs. I've lived it.

So go an wreck everyone a d bring this fanbase home a Lombardi Trophy. This city a d fanbase deserve it more than the Hunts do.

I'm as serious a fan as anyone for 45 years. I have experienced disappointment the same as you. But I am not going to let past disappointment rule my life today. You shouldn't either. Grow some balls, dude.

Fun Alex Smith vs Matt McGloin stat comparison.

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...tvsalex.0.jpeg

Show me the hidden TDs stat! Then we'll talk!

After reading this thread.....you are the one who lives in the past.....and has a fear of failure.

95 and 97 is not 2016.

I would take Smith over Bono and Grbac everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. :)

Dont forget PSU and FGSU as well...

Well there is a silver lining. We wont be playing the Colts in the playoffs...

This theory makes no sense though. This is basically the same Smith he gave up premium draft picks for, and then later extended.

If Smith is so limited, surely Andy could have acquired a better QB in 2013, and then again, over the years.

I know that Smith is the easier target for you and others to blame. I also know that.. just like most/all QBs.. they do have limitations and weaknesses.

... but Alex is the guy Andy wanted.. and wants.. even after he brought in his old buddy Foles. Why? because Alex is doing what his HC wants.

This QB is simply an extension of his HC's will.

Well stated!

Recovered from the weekend?

Flying this week?

I owe you an indepth email response. Will send later today.

Yes recovered.. Monday was rough as I got carried away dranking in the GDC with these looney tunes...

Tomorrow is Eagle Co - Airline home
Thursday is Bahamas - Airline home
Monday is Eagle Co - Airline out to return
Tuesday is Bahamas - Airline out ****ing early to return

Gonna be a long 4 days of flying for sure.

Alex was good the first 3 years here but with it being year 4 in the system and the pieces around him, he's in a decline.

There's no way he's here again next year.

"You're a trolling dumbass and you should be banned"

Get ready to hear this from the hardcore Alex crowd

Grbac was a douche but he would absolute be money with the offensive talent the Chiefs have now.

awwwww.

No, the dumbshit would be the one watching the game they believe "can't" be won.

sucks to be you.

God dammit....I literally do hate seeing shit like this.

I think this Chiefs team is good...really, really good.

However, I think we would be legendarily good if we had a better QB. Historically good.

I hope these guys on this Chiefs team get a chance at a SB. God dammit, they deserve it.

The problem with your argument is Alex Smith has played this same limited way for his entire career.

Has Alex Smith simply been an extension of his HC's ultra conservative game plans for his entire 11 year career? A career that has included many different HC's and offensive coordinators?

Or do all of these coaches recognize Alex Smith's extreme limitations and adjust accordingly?

Probably, but if you look at it from simply the financial side it makes it easy to see.

The stats and games Alex has had this year, minus maybe 1 or 2, could likely be replicated by a cheaper rookie qb.

Alex still does some positive good things, but at his price tag, you need more.

Thinking a out it this way, if they could get say, DeShaun Watson in the 1st round, they could use Smith's money to keep berry and Poe and possibly a key free agent or something.

Youre gonna be in trouble...

speculation is what you're reduced to.

So you and Dorsey are good buddies? Cool.

I wish I was so he could reveal all his next year plans to me. :(

You do realize that this year's Chiefs team is basically winning the exact same way that the 1995 team won in the regular season, correct? Timely turnovers/defensive and special teams TD's that masked weak QB play.

It blew up in the playoffs.

The chiefs were rumored to be all around the qbs in last year's draft, then there were the ones from this year about the last half of the year being Smith's evaluation and looking at next year etc.

Add to that they can get out of the salary this offseason and it's not tough to read the tea leaves

He wasn't always ultra conservative. Not until Mike Nolan destroyed his shoulder. Then Mike Singletary refused to let him throw, and then Harbaugh instilled the conservative approach. Alex Smith his second season under Norv Turner was very aggressive.


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Alex Smith needs to play well for the Chiefs to succeed in the playoffs. I hope he does and makes a lot of people including myself eat crow. I'll hold my opinion until after the postseason. I don't care if he's successful throwing bubble screens or 50 yard bombs. Just win games.

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Isnt that what we all do here?

No, not all.

Gee, if only the Chiefs had_________________

..is lazy and for losers.

The SF personnel from 2006-2012 was really similar to the Chiefs.

Strong defense. Strong STs. Strong at RB. Strong at TE.
Weak at WR.

SF had defensive-minded HCs (Nolan/Singletary) that were vocal about conservative offense, while leaning on strong D and STs. Harbaugh was just building up his scheme for SF and was the same way.

The OCs were simply extensions of the HC's will. They stuck their paws (philosophy) into everything.


If it makes you feel better to be locked into it being Smith's limitations.. and I am sure this will be the case, well go ahead. I can't alter your view.. won't even try. All I can and am doing.. is giving you the correct answer for you and other's year by year frustration in wondering how this could be.

" How can they stick with this guy? How? Are they crazy!?! "

No. They are not. They just don't share your ridiculously ignorant viewpoint.

So they will continue to do that which don't agree with.. and you will continue to stew in your own confusion and frustration.

Best of luck with that.

How pissed are the pro Alex fans
 

Not sure what you mean. But it's week 17, and if the Chiefs have a long playoff run not only will Alex be here next year but he probably would get a contract extension.

And with the way Kelce and Hill are playing right now I wouldn't bet against it.


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Alex Smith apologists are speculating that he'll magically turn into a competent QB in the playoffs.

Considering Grbac put up similar numbers to Smith in a time when the rules weren't geared towards offense, I'm pretty right on.

yup, because all teams are exactly the same through different decades.

you, like others, just can't let it go.

you think your opinion is more important than reality.

JFC you are a dumbshit.

When the 49ers finally hired a real HC in Jim Harbaugh he eventually recognized that you couldn't win with Alex Smith's limitations and dumped him.

Would this be considered Fact/Not Fiction? That crowd sure thinks their opinion is the only one that matters.

and so we are done here. You have yourself a pleasant day now. :thumb:

And they're looking like a wild card team that's gonna have to win 3 road games to make a run because the qb lost 2 home games to non playoff teams.

This has been Smith's worst statistical year here and the chiefs are still in a position to win 12 games. That's how good the roster is.

It's been pretty apparent that he's had a bad year and they can get out of his deal.

No, a kicker missed THREE FGs...any one of them wins the game.

1995 is not 2016.

Open your heart....and embrace positive hope and confidence. :)

NO a coach went from running the ball successfully to throwing the balll all over the field with a team that couldnt pass for shit...

Ill never blame the kicker for Martys faults...

ROFL this is how dumbshit Alex Smith apologists like Sandy Butt Cheeks roll... when you overwhelm and destroy their Alex Smith fantasies with cold hard facts, they waive the white flag and quit like Alex throwing a 2 yard bubble screen on 3rd and long.

LMAO

ya, all the other players get credit.

LMAO

True....but my sister could have made even one of those FGs. (Still bitter to this day...I had 50YL tickets for the AFL champsionship game. )

And Steve Bono threw 3 INT's, had a 32.8 QB rating and was benched.

nah. The only white flag being waved around is in your hand.

You can sit in the corner, turn red, cry, scream to the heavens, and carry on being a miserable twat.

I will be elsewhere, enjoying the Chiefs' successes, and being happy.


We were having a conversation that you devolved into the typical dipshittery... you getting frustrated like a child and lashing out. This conversation is going nowhere.. so I will leave you to marinate in your own miserable shit. Now, good day.

All I ask is for Alex not to be the reason this team doesn't win the super bowl. Play at your 2016 Probowl level and we will be hosting that trophy in Feb...

Anything less and were done.

on this note, and out of curiosity.. how much blame does he receive in the Indy playoff loss, iyho?

That was my first taste of the truth about "the coach whom should remain nameless". After that, I was understood why people said what they said about "the coach whom should remain nameless".

I woke up as a fan that day.

Amen, brother, Amen.

Maybe 1%... The rest was 110% complete shit stupidity on Bubbles part. Bubbles calling passing plays to stop the clock and Suttons Cover 0 defense didn't help. Bubbles gave Indy 2 extra possessions in that game with his play calling.

I'm putting that loud mouth ape on mute. He is just trolling and it's obvious. Removing pawn from my mute list in exchange

Not much. I'd be willing to bet anyone here would take that Alex Smith any day of the week.

The problem is, we've seen that Alex only a handful of times in his Chiefs career. I'm rooting to see that baller Alex more frequently.

I know I can't perform badly at my job and keep telling my boss, "Hey, I've done well a few times...!!"

:rolleyes:

so weak.

very fair. Good on ya.

In this case, you are the performing employee.. and your boss is pissing all over your hard work.

So yes.. you should instead slap your boss in the face, and defecate on his desk, if he ever gives you lip about your performance.

My biggest gripe with Alex in that game was him not going all Waterboy and using every second of each play clock... That was on him and that assisted Bubbles dumbassery in giving Indy those extra couple of possessions...

Show me the proof where my statement is wrong?

Let me guess,... you are going to point to Alex W/L record...
ROFL

memory gets blurred as the years go by, but yeah.. this sounds about right

Alex fumbling the ball on a strip sack play? Check

Alex taking a brutal intentional grounding call that ultimately killed the final offensive drive? Check

Alex misfiring on a likely TD passing play to a wide open Cyrus Grey that would have likely put the game away? Check

WELL Kelce did that last week by calling out the play calling in the Tennessee game.

Kelce could very well save this season and be the MVP of this team by having ballz. We will see how it plays out, but that so far has been the biggest moment of the season.

Now is the time for the Alex to show up. Hopefully he plays well and we succeed.

Winning another playoff game would be great, but at this point anything less than an AFCCG would be a failure.
It's obviously not all on Alex, but he's a HUGE part of how we'll do.

I like this post as well. :)

Smith has pretty clearly declined this season compared to his previous 3. Is that not obvious?

That offsets his 400+ yard 4 TD performance...

He held up his end.. Bubbles.... NO so much..

Hey, I've stated in other threads... I don't know for certain if Andy or Alex is to blame... so I blame both for the putrid offense we see most weeks.

If Andy has been telling Alex not to use his legs as much this season (which is his greatest asset) then screw him. Among other things.

He certainly played well enough to win, but I would put the % of the blame on him for the loss at higher than 1%.

...if that were true, we wouldn't be in the playoffs..AGAIN

It's not just the performance alone, it's about value and the actual value of the performance.

If we can get a rookie qb to do what smith does (would that be difficult looking at current rookies?) For a fraction of the cosr, why would you not do that?

That allows you to build a better offense around him, keep the defense intact etc.

That's an fair argument...


But Im not a Reid fan...

Wins are a team statistic. QB play lends a hand towards that obviously, but they've won some games this year in ways they can't depend on going forwars.

This isnt a fair argument here... This means without Smith we couldnt be in the playoffs....