Ok... I can go with that. :D

It's not that I disagree, it's that I don't think the Chiefs should throw valuable resources (i.e) cap space and high draft picks on defensive players.

A slippery running back, better guard play and better WR play will go just as far, IMO, in eliminating the run game issue as would throwing dough and picks at "run stufffers".

This league is all about QB play, WR's, TE's and dynamic RB"s (not run of the mill guys like West and Ware)

Shore those positions up and the defensive stats against the run change considerably.

If we had the season Oakland did this year I'd be pretty content knowing that there will still be ups and downs, but with a young QB at the helm we would never be totally out of the race. I personally would be fine with 10-6 or 12-4 type seasons where we make it to the playoffs but don't win it all as long as we had a young QB who gave us a glimmer of hope for the future.

Instead we're stuck with a **** stick like Alex Smith and are left with the realization that we have almost no chance of things being better unless absolutely everything goes our way.

Agreed.

Our D has several playmakers that can make people forget that they tend to be on the field for awhile. It's more dynamic than stout (outside the red zone where they were very good). And of the course the run D was a massive issue.

It was a "massive issue" because the OFFENSE repeatedly failed on 3rd downs.

You're ****ing stupid.

Oakland will take a step back in 2017 and again in 2018, when they have to pay Carr and Mack.

I hope so, but there's also reason to believe they will see continued progression from their young players. Their offense is still potentially dangerous and they have some good pieces on defense. And most of all, they're set at QB for the foreseeable future.

The amount of cap space allotted to Mack and Carr will make their drafts even more important and more difficult.

What if Mack suffers a 20 game injury like Houston did?

Their defense falls apart.

We've already seen the 3-13 team without Carr.

and you can't manage to comprehend two different concepts at once

Just because the offense failed on 3rd down doesn't mean our run defense wasn't crappy. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the defense being tired either because our defense gave up yards between the 20s all the time, not just late in the game. Defense tired themselves out as much as anything. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd down until the endzone shortened the field and protected the deep pass for them.

3rd down success
Kansas City
offense rank 20
defense rank 28

2nd source
offense rank 18
defense rank 27

Our offense actually ranked higher on getting 3rd downs than our defense did.

i will say, our defenses bend but do not break, only hindered alex's protections due to long field positions from field goal kick offs. :D

Defense is pretty dam good inside the redzone when they don't have to worry about the deep pass. That's why i think we need an upgrade at CB and maybe even FS. *ducks head from Berry homers*

Berry improved dramatically playing single high this year and might continue to improve. He's not there yet. He just doesn't protect our corners well enough against the deep pass for Sutton to trust it. He doesn't protect the sideline pass much at all.

We don't have any corners that we can trust against the deep pass. Marcus Peters is outfreaking standing at breaking on the ball and defending the short stuff. He might be the best CB in the league at that. He also takes chances and can be beaten deep by a receiver with elite speed.

Once our defense has the endzone against their backs they are one of the best in the league. Top 3 probably and that's because they don't have to pull people back to defend the deep stuff.

but ...... not getting 3 and outs hurt our limited offense by not giving it the short field unless we get a turnover. Turnovers are not really sustainable. :D

I'm not hating anything, just being realistic.

I think this entirely depends on their drafts moving forward. McKenzie knows the Packers formula just like John so it wouldn't surprise me if they continue to draft well.

Run defense will be fine when the real men up front get healthy again.

Since I am frequently erect, reading "Alex" does cause the loss of hardness.

Losing Bailey and DJ really hurt our run defense

Mitchell was a complete stud at CB at the end of the year. You can never have too many CB's, but I think people overlook Mitchell.

Definitely need an upgrade at ILB and probably another DE/NT. All three week one starters were hurt (2 of 3 for the season).

Mitchell was great but it's a small sample size

I hope he continues to be great but we can't count on him next year.

Marcus cooper anyone?

Oaklands sitting at $46 million in cap space for this upcoming year. They can get to above $60 million with cuts to three players that made less than no impact for them on the field. Year after that they have upwards of $80 million in space.

It's pure fantasy to think that they're just magically going to get worse once they have to pay two players. They have tons of space to sign Carr, Mack, and whoever else they want.

Can't forget Jaye....

I won't be surprised a bit, and would likely project our starting DL next year to be Jones-Howard-Bailey.

That ain't bad by any means. I've always thought Howard played his best football for us early in 2015 shooing the A gap at NT.

You always say this but how many safeties can consistently defend the sidelines while playing single high? The field is like 52 yards wide. That's a shit ton of ground to cover.

I don't think he's saying that they won't be able to sign anyone or anything like that, but Oakland will be the first team in the league that I can recall to have to pay elite QB money to two players....

From the sounds of it, Carr is due for a $125 million type of deal, and Mack is going to approach Miller's $114 million. That eats a shit ton of your cap. If you are drafting well like you are supposed to, a lot of your money has to be saved just to retain your own players, likely ending the days of making splashes like Oakland has the past couple years in FA.

At the end of the day, every team's goal should be to draft good players and use your cap space to keep them. Unfortunately, the Raiders are finally on that track.

:facepalm:

That's worked out well for the Seahawks, right?

Carr and Mack will cost the Raiders a minimum of $40 million per year - maybe closer to $45 million. They'll need a left tackle because Penn is breaking down and old plus Amari Cooper's deal will be coming up soon. Their secondary is old and pretty much sucks, along with the rest of their defense. They'll need to hit on picks and if they don't, they'll need to reach into free agency, which isn't cheap when it comes to solid cornerbacks and safeties.

They face a shit ton of challenges but none more important than facing a first place schedule along with uncertainty of where the team will actually play their games.

Losing DeVito and Mauga were big losses there as well

They have be able to read the offense and the QB to get a good jump

That takes experience at single high that Berry doesn't really have yet.

Well, it's much easier to do so when you're picking in the Top 5 every year, as opposed to the Bottom 5.

McKenzie's certainly had his share of misses, like pretty much the entire 2012 draft, their first rounder in 2013 and not very much production on the back end of their drafts.

Absolutely everything? Chiefs can't advance with Smith unless absolutely everything goes their way?

Absolutely nothing went the Chiefs way in that game against Pittsburgh. Nothing. And yet you lost to the great and almighty Ben Rothlesburger by 2 points. Ben's receivers didn't drop easy passes, Ben had a running game that ran all over you all game, Ben was barely even hurried let alone touched all game... and this a QB that can barely move even when he's not coming off some kind of foot injury... and yet he won by 2 points - 2 points. And he even needed the refs to help him out with that at the end.

You hate Smith and want a QBOTF - fine. I hope to hell the Chiefs draft a stallion with their first pick so everyone can stroke a few out, but pretending that the Pittsburgh game is evidence that the Chiefs can't advance because of Smith is ridiculous. Nothing went right consistently enough offensively in that game. Smith made great throws that could have saved them but also missed a few opportunities that cost them. Kelce made a few great plays, but dropped a crucial catch and lost his head on a different play that cost them. Maclin made a few great plays, but dropped a few crucial ones. The Oline did a decent job, but the times in which they buckled were very costly. No running game to speak of... etc. etc. If any ONE of these things go the other way, Chiefs likely win. Just one.

Even if the Raiders have to pay Carr and Mack, that still puts them far ahead of the Chiefs.

We have no franchise QB or elite pass rusher on this roster.

We have Alex Smith and a busted-ass Justin Houston.

And we're all stuck with a Claynus

Houston will be back to his normal self next year. My guess would be 16-18 sacks.

I'll believe it when I see it.

We haven't seen "elite Justin Houston" since 2014.

That feels like eons ago at this juncture.

Derek Carr has never played well vs the Chiefs. We are his kryptonite

Just another hurdle he has to get past. He has the talent and smarts to do it, and given that he's improved massively every single season, I wouldn't bet against him.

Then go be a fan of the ****ing raiders, we don't need you.

trash your own, praise the opposition

**** off

injured by game 5

That's because you're ****ing stupid

Raider's offensive line cap hits over the next couple of years.

2017

LT - Penn - $6.1M
LG - Osemele - $13.2M
C - Hudson - $6.85M
RG - Jackson - $852K
RT - Howard - $6.4M

2018

LT - Penn is a FA
LG - Osemele - $10.2M
C - Hudson - $8.35M
RG - Jackson is a FA
RT - Howard - $6.9M

They're going to have to find a LT and pay Jackson over the next two years. All while dealing with the big cap hits from Hudson and Osemele. Plus add in Carr, Mack and Cooper.

Justin Houston is still as good as before. Even with a bad knee giving him problems he:

-dominated Denver
-got a sack and 2 more run stuffs vs Atlanta
-had a combined sack and QB hit resulting in a bad pass on a critical down vs Oakland

He's fine

Really? Dude was invisible in the playoff game.

Other than playing the worst RT in football I don't see the same player.

Now, wait, I thought it was playoff performance or nothing?

Houston's performance against Denver was on par with his performances before the injury occurred in 2015. Obviously, his body wasn't ready to provide similar performances and he was held out for weeks on end.

By the time he returned against Pittsburgh, he wasn't in football shape but I expect him to be ready to go in 2017.

Bingo. And Crabtree isn't getting any younger

Wow, I wish I could agree. Perhaps we can hope he shows up more prominently next year than he did in our last game.

I was pissed that he wasn't himself in the playoff game, but it was clear that he wasn't healthy. He was a run stuffer and decoy more than a pass rusher.

I think having an offseason will get him back, but I really want to draft another pass rusher early just in case.

That and I think Sutton was more worried about trying to shut down the run....more than rushing Ben.

If DJ comes back (if...), it sure seems like we're going to have a huge number of star players playing within a hair of sitting out for an extended period again.

Scary.

Not to pile on Sutton but he had Houston dropping into coverage quite a bit too. I flipped my shit when he was covering Brown one on one down the sideline. It was a miracle he made the tackle.

Stephenson and Sambrailo aren't exactly quality players in the league. He has lost a step from what we've seen. If we want any chance of a run next season, our 18+ million dollar pass rusher better start bringing in those sacks

Sambrailo is better suited at guard

Justin Houston was still a damn good even after his recovery. Alex is the old veteran that is declining.

Sambrailo sucks monkey nuts

Khalil Mack had 11 sacks this year in 16 games, Houston had 4 sacks in 5 games....

If Mack is elite, Houston is too. He clearly tailed off because of the knee, as it seemed he hardly even rushed the passer often against PIT or Tennessee.

If he makes the full recovery this offseason and can stay on the field, he has the skill set that allows a pass rusher to be a force for another 4-5 years, and maybe more. Will he ever have 22 sacks again? I highly doubt it, but who the hell does that once, let alone twice?

If I had to bet, I would guess Houston, Peters, Hill, and Kelce are our team MVPs next season.

Really going out on a limb there

Better than Claynus neg repping me saying the Chiefs wouldn't win more than 10 games this season

He's been predicting doom and gloom since the moment we traded for Alex.

He's a fraud.

And yet that fruad will be our starting QB next season.

Rofl so funny

you really are a whinging little twatwaffle aren't you. with all the negative rep you have given me over the dumbest shit ever, i could decorate my christmas tree. and you cry about clay?

go to the bathroom and wipe your mangina, it's starting to mold. :D

ETA: you are a chicken shit DaneMcCumbubble. now i have the star on top of my tree.

You're a worthless ****ing ****, which is even more evident from your support of Claynus.

Do us all a favor and go swimming tomorrow, aight, Mate?

****.

Chicken shit? What?

Bring it, Dummy.

I welcome the challenge from a moron like you.

YAYYYYYY! and E-Fight Challenge. I am betting you have gotten your ass kicked so many times this is what you are left with.

Come on, show me how hard your internet punch is. Probably as weak as your postings. :D

i will start it off:

you are so fat, in order to wipe your ass, you must first open a window :D

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Yearning for the days of Herm?

drug use nsfw :D

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Begging for a NFL franchise QB..... 47 years....

We could improve our ILB.

Ware was not as good of a replacement for Charles as we had hoped.

Eric Fisher isn't getting much better at LT. He isn't terrible but could probably be outplayed by a 3rd rounder.

LOL, just poking fun. Don't neg rep me, bro.

He's a Zealander

The Packers formula?

Ted Thomson hasn't been nearly as good at team building as he has been painted.

The 1 SB was on the shoulders of Rodgers and Charles Woodson, and they have only been relevant because of Rodgers since then.

John Schnieder and John Dorsey have both been better at their respective jobs, and Reggie McKensy has, thus far, done an outstanding job with the Raiders, and he had a lot more work at the beginning than either.

They are better at their jobs bc they utilize FA. Ted Thompson not utilizing FA has killed that team. This article explains it perfectly:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...zles/97136720/

They all have done an overall better job in the draft.

2017, the year of Alexcuses v2.0

I like this Nick guy.

He's got spunk

Super Bowl!!

Play-calling, offensive line, drops and defensive rushing yards...

Did I miss any?

Edit: No official statistic for 'setting up the punter'

Yeah but that's probably to be expected when you lose 3 of your top horses from your team.

We'll see how Dorsey does with Ballard gone. He's been training guys like Brett Veach for 4 years

Add Zona to the QB hunt.

Palmer sold his AZ home, nothing definitive, but enough to get them wee-weed up, I'm sure.

If only we had writers in KC who would call out our teams like that...

They can all be summarized with, "He didn't lose the game. What more do you want?"

A QB not posing as some junk game manager...

Since when is Father Time considered "pressure"?