It won't be May, it'll probably be like end of February, he's going to make sure he can't pass that physical so he can milk the team out of another highly paid year.

Got it. June 1st cut it is.

As a fan knowing what a healthy Berry brings to a defense - that's annoying as hell. He should have gotten it taken care of this week if he had any intention of helping the Chiefs in '19.

I also think he's done as a player. And why would he want to coach? Coaches put in 12 to 14 hour days seven days a week during the season. He's got enough money for ten lifetimes. Why do something where you have to work your ass off when you're already a multimillionaire?

Nope...if he can't pass a physical in March I think it is, something like 80% of his contract becomes guaranteed so you save basically nothing cutting him no matter when it is.

He'd be more likely to go be a VP in the players union, dude knows how to work a team for money.

Now, what? If he CAN'T pass a physical, 80% of his remaining contract becomes guaranteed? What in the actual ****? Dorsey did that stupid shit, didn't he? He owes us a first round pick for Dee Ford after we tag and trade him now. Christ.

**** it, cut him anyway and save what you can. We need bodies that can actually produce, not cap leeches trying to make the homeless look en vogue.

It's part of the CBA, if a player can't pass a physical in the offseason 80% of his contract for the upcoming season is guaranteed.

It just happened with Dee Ford this past offseason.

Ok, I'm getting all emotional without the facts here, lol.

Still, Berry is doing nothing more than putting the Chiefs in a bind, even if he is playing by the rules. I still say cut him June 1st. What do you think?

The illiterate bum only knows how to say, "It's complicated". He's kind of like Groot, just not as tough.

Even opening up a chance for someone else even a JAG is better than what we have now.

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup.

What is the requirement for even giving a physical
You cant cut him w/o a physical ?

You mean in general? I think a team can cut any player for any reason they want, just look at the Kareem Hunt fiasco. But, the player naturally has the right to grieve it with the union if they feel like they're being wronged.

Only way Berry not on this team next year is if he retires

So why would he want to pass a physical on March 1st then? That pretty much sums up the fact that he wont play next year.

The next round of players are going to need to understand that the CBA is what's getting in the way of that contract they seek.

He doesn't, he wants to make sure if they move on he guarantees himself the most money and gives them the greatest reason to not cut him.

If he can't pass that physical the Chiefs basically don't save anything cutting him.

Players already get jobbed on contracts so I can see why it's in there, if you want that out you're going to have to give in on a ton of other things..like no franchise tag.

What might be nice is to have the Chiefs play the game, have their Doc's say he's fine (pass the physical), and force his agent to prove his player is ****ing broke-dick (again).

They've got Docs, we've got Docs; they've got lawyers, we've got lawyers; play the game.

Chiefs are losing this game....it's also a bad look to other players. It's probably best to just move on and wish him well and deal with it so you can not have his cap hit for another year.

I agree, especially considering this 80% rule. Just eat the hit this season and be done with it.

Well I guess I don't feel as bad about others getting jobbed then. If they want to sit back silently and let idiots like Berry milk the system, saying they understand that it's a business, then don't ask anybody to feel sorry for you when you get jobbed because the Berry's of the world ****ed everybody but Berry. What's the saying, don't hate the game, hate the playa??? Wait....

I mean the other issue you have is if you do move on, does it piss off guys like Houston? I mean it could but no that it should matter he's not irreplaceable either.

Berry is basically taking a rule in the CBA and working it, the rule is really there so if you blow your knee out in the playoffs a team can't cut you and leave you with no ability to get signed cause you're hurt.

This. No matter what, let him know you'll play with one less on the roster, but his locker will be boarded-up, and if he home-dresses, he won't be allowed in the facility. If he breaks into the facility (LMAO), then he won't be part of any snaps in practice or play any snaps as a Chief.

It's really kinda odd how he went from being such a favorite to now no one can stand him.

I know, he's a really shitty man too. Clearly he's selfish, and I wish the worst for him because of that, but I won't deny that the rules are on his side...

Hopefully the rules will change, but I doubt they will.

Who gives a shit? If he gets pissy about it cut him too.

Berry will not play in a Chiefs uniform in 2019, nor would we want him to. If he had any dedication to this team and to his team mates, and to the the owner and town that supported him 1000% through his cancer ordeal, he would have been on the operating table days after the AFCCG, with surgery being scheduled well in advance.

The fact that he's just jackin' around with his Haglund, shooting craps with Stinky, Oddball, Cornbread, and Tumbleweed down at the underpass today tells you all you need to know.

Do we still save the $$$ with the June 1st cut?

At this point, the Chiefs have part of a D-line and a bunch of question marks. With the exception of said partial line, Spags needs to be given free reign to implement his vision. Houston, Berry, Ford, Ragland, Hitchens etc? Just assets to be analyzed. If they fit and can work fiscally, great. If not, there exists no reason under God to be tied to ANY of them.

That's what happens when you take the goodwill that was extended to you, and repay it by pissing in the face of the people who were gracious enough to offer it in the first place.
I'm calling it; unless Mahomes, you will NEVER see Clark Hunt get involved in a contract dispute again.
Had John Dorsey been allowed to do his job, we would STILL have Mahomes, Veach, and absolutely NO issues regarding Eric Berrry and our cap, because he would be GONE.
And wisely so.

This. There's a new sheriff in town and his way is THE way from here on out. If you don't fit, if you want to be butthurt about Berry getting righteously shit-canned, and if you think you're going to get big bucks because our OLD QB was a bag of dicks, and those rates still apply?

**** right off and get gone.

**** no! Dorsey was trying to protect us, and Clark stepped in and made him acquiesce to every...****ing...thing in that shitty ****ing contract that Berry and his agent cooked up. He didn't want the "bad look" of "shorting the cancer survivor".

Once again, perception was more important than reality to Clark but I can almost guarantee you he won't EVER be doing that again, and rightfully so.

Don't care for your use of adjectives or adverbs, but your point is good

LMAO

Thanks? Guess I'll go catch up on my 'Schoolhouse Rock':

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I just want Berry to go away and quit being a distraction to the team when it's at such a critical point. Whether it be IR, PUP, a one way trip to Antarctica or a police escort off the field. Just go away already.</br></br> This relationship...is...over.

Sounds like a great way to ensure no free agents or drafted players ever sign/resign with your team again.

I was BDB was on the Pats and PMII got to throw against his cap stealing ass.

That’s what happens when someone gets raped.

Saving him for Family Fun Day in St Joe.

That's how a lot of fans are. They love you when you play well minute you don't or you get hurt they turn on you. Not me.

Sticking by Berry as long as our players and coaches do. They know way more than idiots on here about what is going on.

It is a very frusturating situation but that is football for you. Injuries suck. Chiefs signed him though,and he had gotten hurt before. They gotta live with the contract whether they like it or not.

The Last Ball washer

One thing I have noticed over the years is that Kansas City teams tend to hold onto players past their prime because it's good public relations. The fans like that their team takes care of it's favorite players. The problem with this is that this is a business where the players are assets which are depreciated and discarded.

Can't blame someone for getting everything that they can when they put their body on the line and know that their time is very limited. I'm disappointed that he hasn't been available for the past two years and appears to be making sure that he gets another payday. Not my money...

Yeah, we all turned on him the minute he got hurt. :spock:

You are seriously depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

i wouldn’t even let him come back to watch games or be a part of any Chiefs activities. **** HIM and his Spirit

That's just it, sometimes the coaches DON'T. Or rather they do, but when a LOT of $$$ is involved, they overlook things. I bet you anything that if the Chiefs had not given Berry that mega deal, he would have been GONE by now, one way or another, no matter how good he was in the past. And, it would have NOTHING to do with anyone, or the Chiefs turning on him. It would have everything to do with him not being able to play for TWO YEARS.

BTW, did the "idiots on here" KNOW to FIRE Sutton after the Titan playoff debacle? YEP! Did the HC prove he knew "way more" by keeping him? NOPE!

And it doesn't take an idiot to figure out what is going on with Berry. It's the exact opposite - It's the idiots who can't...:hmmm:

The organization needs to make a statement and work his ass right out the ****ing door. Then he needs to be black balled from any and all future Chiefs functions/events, facilities and team activities/games. He can sit in the stands as a regular joe eating nachos with Haglund

I'm pretty sure nobody is going to make a decision based on a team trying to cut out a cancer, not even future prospects. In fact, some might respect that the Chiefs are serious and aren't going to let slacker affect the team.

And I'm very sure, beyond the PC sound bites, that any of the players think he's anything other than a fraud. Players/Gladiators like Hill playing taped-up and dinged sure as hell loath a slacker like Berry.

Nobody likes a Haglund...

LMAO

He's raping the team dude! And if he wants some slack given after two year, maybe something better than "it's complicated" is needed...

The complicated part for him is how can he figure out to continue to **** the franchise by doing the least possible. If he was on a tree trimming crew he would of already been put through the chipper.

If they put him in a chipper his Haglund growth would shatter the teeth, it's that hard!

True story...

His All Olympus work-outs are hard

Can you imagine what Gronk's workouts must be, he bitch-slapped Haglund like the clown he is...

Hagland Hobospirit will get the Chiefs comeback player of the year award.




Because Chiefs


It never ends

It sucks that we finally get a stud QB and this BS contract (dictated by Clark Hunt) of Eric Berry’s is gonna end up wasting the salary cap advantage of the rookie contract. It looks like the timeframe KC will cut Brrry is when Mahomes will need a big $ extension.

Because....

I cant believe this threads still going strong lol. I figured itd get a day on the front page at most.

If Berry is here next year you have to believe Clark blocked Veach from cutting his ass.

One SB win and I guarantee you that philosophy goes right to shitter, if it isn't headed there already.

I can't believe I lost a competent, aggressive GM over this turd...

Eh, maybe. It's a ****ed if you do, ****ed if you don't situation.

It's hard to imagine "One SB win" as a Chiefs fan. When you're strapped with dead weight like Berry it's seems like we're chasing the oasis in a desert mirage.

Does anyone know if it has to be a football injury to guarantee the deal?

Clark should just offer to pay him the rest of his salary owed via injury settlement, so it’s not on the cap. Then let him retire. Doubt he’d go for that though.

Should of picked Thomas.

Makes me want to throw my sons Berry jersey in the trash. Maybe Nelson will take 29 when he gives up 20 to our stud we draft. Then I can just change names

Or hell even Parker when we sign him back

If Ron Parker is a Chief next year, then something has gone dreadfully wrong.

Yeah, but you know the Chiefs.

The safe play is just change it to a Lewis 29.

This. So very very much this. I would rather juggle fresh dog turds than watch Ron Parker play anymore football.

Royals fans on social media still often want the Royals to keep Alex Gordon beyond 2019, so I don't think a championship changes anything about the average fan being a dumbass.

I wasn't talking about fans at all. I was referring to ownership and the "good guy" philosophy. I don't give a **** if anyone outside Mahomes retires a Chief or not, and neither should the franchise.

Next man>Next man>Next man>Next man> and goodbye when you can't cut it anymore.

As long as Mahomes is healthy, the Chiefs will be laser-focused on winning the SB. Clark is about $$. He thought fans would bail if Berry was perceived to be slighted or was let go.

Most fans that you see in social media are the "trufan" homer types. Theyre weird as hell. I remember when the Royals let Butera go and people were saying that this is why the franchise never wins because they let go of their best players. Wtf

I’m going to go ahead and put this here, because I don’t know what else to do with it:

Marcus Peters would be playing in Super Bowl LIII whether he got traded to the Rams or not.

It's day to day guided by the hobo spirits.

If the spirit of Hag was powering the thread then it wouldnt have ever been made.

It was cheering from the sideline

Walking without any noticeable sign of distress and embracing the “underpass” look

Before Mahomes this was somewhat understandable. A team needs some identifiable stars. With Mahomes that goes mostly out the window. Patriots never seem to have more than a couple of big stars beyond Brady.

I’m sure this has been asked, but has his surgery been scheduled yet?

You would think he should want to get it done ASAP to give him as much recovery time as possible.

Thats the part that really bugs me. For something that supposedly caused an excruciating amount of pain, so much pain that he couldnt practice for basically the whole year, he never even limped one time. I think he could have played all season, but for some reason that only Berry knows, he decided to sit out pretty much the whole year. He seemed to only play when he thought we needed him. Idk if its because he wanted to be the hero that came in and saved the Chiefs or what his angle was, but he totally ****ed us against the Pats. I dont care what he does next year as long as he's not on the field.



Anything he wants to do as long as he's not playing.

Yeah he went to scheduled surgery last week at Hobo-Hopkins. Told everybody he was in a real hurry to get his Haglund fixed so that he could compete at a high level again. Said his Spirit was in decline over hanging out on the sidelines for almost two years while drawing a huge contract, and that he just couldn't live with himself if he had to do it again in 2019. Said he felt like a disappointment to his team mates, the Clarks, and the City.













































LMAO

Clark got ****ed, as did the fans.

So here's the deal. Has he had his surgery yet? No. And why not? Because he's an asshole. An asshole that got paid. He has no desire to help out our cause. He stole the Superbowl from us more than Dee Ford or Tom Brady.

Almost got into a fight w/a guy from Tennessee at the AFCCG. He's whining about Berry, "But he had cancer!!!". Who gives a shit? That was years ago and has nothing to do with the 2018 season that we should have won everything.

He got paid. End of story. If he really cared, he would have done something months ago. And he sure as hell would have already had surgery as soon as the AFCCG was over.

**** him.

Surgery should have happened as soon as the season ended. **** him and **** his haglund spirit

It's complicated... Well, not the "he's an asshole" and "he's a pussy" parts, but the rest is, evidently...