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LoneWolf 06-28-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16997792)
1600 sq ft, 3 bd + a screened porch on a 12,000 sq ft lot and you'd bitch too if your prop. tax went up 54 ****ing percent in one year.

GFY

Sounds like a place worth $126,690. What are you bitching about again.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998525)
Sounds like a place worth $126,690. What are you bitching about again.

unless you're going to contribute to democracy, freedom and holding our elected representatives accountable, i suggest you exit the thread

LoneWolf 06-28-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998532)
unless you're going to contribute to democracy, freedom and holding our elected representatives accountable, i suggest you exit the thread

That was a simple statement. Is your house worth that?

Titty Meat 06-28-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998694)
That was a simple statement. Is your house worth that?

No he doesn't even have curbs

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998694)
That was a simple statement. Is your house worth that?

i literally posted as much

this ain't about me, bub

organize a protest or move on

LoneWolf 06-28-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998718)
i literally posted as much

this ain't about me, bub

organize a protest or move on

Wait, so your house is worth what they are assessing your taxes on and you want to organize a protest because your taxes went up? What did you do the years your property was undervalued and you paid less taxes than you should have?

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998753)
Wait, so your house is worth what they are assessing your taxes on and you want to organize a protest because your taxes went up? What did you do the years your property was undervalued and you paid less taxes than you should have?

would you mind your own ****ing business wichita boy? you have no idea what you're yakkin about

Eureka 06-28-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16998493)
Reminds me of the time Emanuel Cleaver banned the 40oz in KCMO and got elected to the House of Representatives

https://media3.giphy.com/media/jGeuf...d=200.gif&ct=g

Eureka 06-28-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998525)
Sounds like a place worth $126,690. What are you bitching about again.

Clay bought his house at the height of the market but he got a good interest rate. He's now under water in it but does it really matter as he needs a place to live.

In Cali, Prop 13 prevents politicians from bending us over unless the voters approve. Seems Kansas needs something similar.

LoneWolf 06-28-2023 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998760)
would you mind your own ****ing business wichita boy? you have no idea what you're yakkin about

Answer the question?

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998776)
Answer the question?

Get out.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16998769)
Clay bought his house at the height of the market but he got a good interest rate. He's now under water in it but does it really matter as he needs a place to live.

You TOO should shut the **** up as you have no idea what you're yakkin about.

LoneWolf 06-28-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998781)
Get out.

You’re such a soft little woman.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 09:09 PM

As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

LoneWolf 06-28-2023 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998790)
As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

Already proven some of these numbers are bullshit. Megan Marshall’s assessment actually went up 19% not down.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2023 10:23 PM

lmao another damn commie

https://us1-photo.nextdoor.com/post_...zing=linear%27

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Vik Edwin Stoll (born April 3, 1954) is the Deputy Chief Administrative Officer and Director of Collections for Jackson County, Missouri and is a former nominee to be a judge of the United States Tax Court.

On November 9, 2015, President Obama nominated Stoll to serve as a Judge of the United States Tax Court


Eureka 06-28-2023 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16998787)
You’re such a soft little woman.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998783)
You TOO should shut the **** up as you have no idea what you're yakkin about.

Lonewolf and I have a song for you. It's a song from your local elected representatives and your property taxes.

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|Zach| 06-28-2023 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16997353)
jesus i'd go if it wasn't so ****ing far uptown

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzoTrWFW...jpg&name=small

LMAO What a bitch.

bringbackmarty 06-29-2023 12:18 AM

Sure on paper it looks like a 47% increase for us almost 5k for a 2K square foot house, 100 y\0 I've got pre renovation comps. Original bathroom tub, kitchen layout. 30 y\o furnace, ac... Confident we will win our appeal. If not, we will sue, then move to parkville or kansas. Wife's a skilled lawyer. Comps,pics, estimates are everything. They are looking at kitchens, bathrooms, not foundations, basements...

Bearcat 06-29-2023 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998849)
lmao another damn commie

Uh, you obviously found a way around the whole 'can't report posts' thing.... but, if you keep reporting posts because you don't like someone, we'll just romper you instead.

penguinz 06-29-2023 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998120)

You won't go. There will be black people there.

Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16998988)
You won't go. There will be black people there.

wanna bet? i got at least two people who can't go, who are suffering worse than I am on this, and deserve to have their interests represented....yes, I will go. i've got nothing better to do on a saturday at 9 AM than be a ****ing american

penguinz 06-29-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16998993)
wanna bet? i got at least two people who can't go, who are suffering worse than I am on this, and deserve to have their interests represented....yes, I will go. i've got nothing better to do on a saturday at 9 AM than be a ****ing american

Why start now?

No way you are standing out in the rain with people that scare you.

Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16999004)
Why start now?

No way you are standing out in the rain with people that scare you.

if it rains we reschedule! no biggie

thank you for your support

Gravedigger 06-29-2023 07:35 AM

I have my assessment at home. Our home jumped in value for sure, but I took the difference between the 2022 and 2023 and it ended up being like $45 per month in additional mortgage payment since ours rolls it in so we don't owe at the end of the year. My house was built in 2012 in a really good neighborhood so I'm not sure if I'm doing the math right. They say you can appeal it, but their office is overburdened (imagine that) with appeals and given any local government entity they're likely short staffed with underpaid workers that don't give two shits about my problems, also I think I read that only 20-24% of appeals actually benefit, but there's added fees to go through a third party appraiser so it's a bunch of government bs. I hope this lawsuit puts them in their place if my monthly mortgage goes up considerably and I did my math wrong. I guess alot of it is targeted at the elderly so the older houses are having their rates go up considerably more than the rates of newer homes. On the news they had a person say her broke down shed was worth $35000 according to Jackson County lol. I'm not sure if Clay County is doing this stuff too, but I'll move across lines I don't care.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news...-its-worth-35k

Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16999023)
I have my assessment at home. Our home jumped in value for sure, but I took the difference between the 2022 and 2023 and it ended up being like $45 per month in additional mortgage payment since ours rolls it in so we don't owe at the end of the year. My house was built in 2012 in a really good neighborhood so I'm not sure if I'm doing the math right. They say you can appeal it, but their office is overburdened (imagine that) with appeals and given any local government entity they're likely short staffed with underpaid workers that don't give two shits about my problems, also I think I read that only 20-24% of appeals actually benefit, but there's added fees to go through a third party appraiser so it's a bunch of government bs. I hope this lawsuit puts them in their place if my monthly mortgage goes up considerably and I did my math wrong.

no one's property tax rates should go up 54% in a year, let alone 300%, especially when elected officials are getting a break

this is sheer theft by the county, and it is also a non-partisan issue

Gravedigger 06-29-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16999024)
no one's property tax rates should go up 54% in a year, let alone 300%, especially when elected officials are getting a break

this is sheer theft by the county, and it is also a non-partisan issue

No doubt, a poor plan at funding projects or enriching ones self for sure.

Eureka 06-29-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 16998901)
Sure on paper it looks like a 47% increase for us almost 5k for a 2K square foot house, 100 y\0 I've got pre renovation comps. Original bathroom tub, kitchen layout. 30 y\o furnace, ac... Confident we will win our appeal. If not, we will sue, then move to parkville or kansas. Wife's a skilled lawyer. Comps,pics, estimates are everything. They are looking at kitchens, bathrooms, not foundations, basements...

Do they take in consideration if your house/neighborhood has sidewalks?

Sassy Squatch 06-29-2023 07:50 AM

My escrow has more than doubled. Pretty sure I'm actually paying more for the escrow than principal and interest. Yeah, it's pretty ****ing annoying.

LoneWolf 06-29-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16999024)
no one's property tax rates should go up 54% in a year, let alone 300%, especially when elected officials are getting a break

this is sheer theft by the county, and it is also a non-partisan issue

The properties were undervalued for years. I didn't see anyone complaining when they were paying absolute dick for property taxes. I read an article of someone complaining that their assessment went up like 700% and they showed the YoY assessment. The prior year value was 18,000 and it went up to 120,000. Did these people contact the city in years prior to let them know their property was undervalued?

Unless the county is assessing your property for over what it is actually worth, stop your bitching and pay your taxes.

LoneWolf 06-29-2023 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16998943)
Uh, you obviously found a way around the whole 'can't report posts' thing.... but, if you keep reporting posts because you don't like someone, we'll just romper you instead.

He told me to kill myself in a rep message, which is probably valid, but seems like a real douchebag thing to do. Is this a violation of the douchebag rule? :D

Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 09:42 AM

As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

LoneWolf 06-29-2023 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16999193)
As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

When are you going to clean up the incorrect information in this post? You have posted this false information several times now.

Eureka 06-29-2023 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16999207)
When are you going to clean up the incorrect information in this post? You have posted this false information several times now.

Clays just upset that the local government is going to go in deep with no lube.

This loss of cash is going to affect things like not being able to rent Phillip or take his lady to the theatre.

Pablo 06-29-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16999814)
Clays just upset that the local government is going to go in deep with no lube.

This loss of cash is going to affect things like not being able to rent Phillip or take his lady to the theatre.

If you can’t rent Phillip are you really living?

Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 03:10 PM

As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

penguinz 06-29-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16999823)
As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

You could stop lying.

BigRedChief 06-29-2023 03:55 PM

In this thread there has been feedback that the same thing is happening nationwide. There ain’t enough commies to commit this heinous act on god fearing Americans.

Eureka 06-29-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16999897)
In this thread there has been feedback that the same thing is happening nationwide. There ain’t enough commies to commit this heinous act on god fearing Americans.

Not in California (prop 13).

Although we already pay a shit load of taxes. :shake:

Eureka 06-29-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16999818)
If you can’t rent Phillip are you really living?

The answer is no. Hopefully the tax hike doesn't ruin the travels Clay will have with his lady, sitting in Phillip, and driving to see the wonder sites of Kansas/Missouri.

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/bag...ce-corniche-ii

Hammock Parties 06-30-2023 05:02 PM

Seems fine!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County homeowner stunned by $2M property tax assessment on $200k home <a href="https://t.co/aawR7PLyIp">https://t.co/aawR7PLyIp</a></p>&mdash; Kathleen Choal (@KathleenChoal) <a href="https://twitter.com/KathleenChoal/status/1674749939639787523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Salina Contreras moved to her dream home on seven acres in Kansas City in 2019.

She lives there with her husband and dogs.

"He wanted land and I wanted a porch, so here we are," Contreras said.

For the past several years, Contreras' property tax assessment on her home came in at around $200,000.

This year her home saw a stunning 950 percent increase to more than $2 million.

"If I'd have known I was a millionaire, I'd retire," Contreras said.

Contreras said she never received her tax assessment in the mail as required by law.

It wasn't until a neighbor encouraged Contreras to look online that she discovered her home is now valued at $2.1 million.

"This isn't just a little mistake, this is a huge mistake," Contreras said.

If she didn't catch the error and appeal, $40,000 in taxes could've automatically come out of Contreras' escrow account for the assessed price of her home, according to Chris Wolfenbarger, a 25-year veteran appraiser.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

'We as taxpayers are getting screwed'

She lives there with her husband and dogs.

"He wanted land and I wanted a porch, so here we are," Contreras said.

For the past several years, Contreras' property tax assessment on her home came in at around $200,000.

This year her home saw a stunning 950 percent increase to more than $2 million.

"If I'd have known I was a millionaire, I'd retire," Contreras said.

Contreras said she never received her tax assessment in the mail as required by law.

It wasn't until a neighbor encouraged Contreras to look online that she discovered her home is now valued at $2.1 million.

"This isn't just a little mistake, this is a huge mistake," Contreras said.

If she didn't catch the error and appeal, $40,000 in taxes could've automatically come out of Contreras' escrow account for the assessed price of her home, according to Chris Wolfenbarger, a 25-year veteran appraiser.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

"We're seeing a 100 percent to 200 percent increase across the board," Wolfenbarger said.

Many of the homes seeing large increases are because the properties were assessed at too low of a cost for too long.

But, several mistakes are occurring in the process.

The KSHB 41 I-Team learned Contreras' home was evaluated as commercial property, which created a false value in the database that generates the assessments.

"To go from $200k to $2 million is a computer error that's so egregious that human oversight should've caught that and didn't," Wolfenbarger said.

Tyler Technologies is the company used by the county that generates the property values. The county entered into an $18 million contract with Tyler.

It's a contract that's paid for by taxpayers like Contreras.

"We as taxpayers are getting screwed," Contreras said. "Who's at fault here?"

Neither the county assessor nor Tyler Technologies would acknowledge how the error occurred, only that it was human error.

The county sent the I-Team this statement:

Tyler and the Assessment department work closely together. I think the important thing is that the mechanisms in place, namely the Value Review, worked as intended. The mistake was identified, corrected expeditiously and without the need for an appeal hearing. The Assessment department is completing about 250 Value Reviews daily, providing expedited resolution for many property owners.

The county did fix Contrera's assessment, which is back in the $200,000 range.

While the county credits its safeguards for identifying issues, Contreras said, like so many others across the county, she's the one who caught the error.

"We shouldn't have to," Contreras said. "Get these assessments right. Somebody absolutely needs to be held accountable."

Contreras did not have to pay for an appraisal to appeal the assessment due to the obvious nature of the error. However, in instances where it's not so clear, Wolfenbarger said it's the homeowners who have to pay to fix the county's mistakes.

"Let's just call it what it is...theft," Wolfenbarger said. "If you assess my house so poorly after you've been paid $18 million to do it right, and I got to pay Chris Wolfenbarger $500 to come out and prove you wrong, you stole $500 from me because you didn't do your job."

notorious 06-30-2023 05:09 PM

JFC

ToxSocks 06-30-2023 05:19 PM

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The KSHB 41 I-Team learned Contreras' home was evaluated as commercial property, which created a false value in the database that generates the assessments.
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Tyler and the Assessment department work closely together. I think the important thing is that the mechanisms in place, namely the Value Review, worked as intended. The mistake was identified, corrected expeditiously and without the need for an appeal hearing. The Assessment department is completing about 250 Value Reviews daily, providing expedited resolution for many property owners.
So this is a case of incompetence. Glad they figured it out for this lady because that would've been ridiculous.

ToxSocks 06-30-2023 05:22 PM

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Many of the homes seeing large increases are because the properties were assessed at too low of a cost for too long.
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.

Eureka 06-30-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17001911)
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.

Well prop 13 has saved us from going through this fiasco. I still hate the .0019% school measure bonds etc I see on my property tax bill. There are 3 of them on my bill + others.

duncan_idaho 07-01-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17001911)
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.


Some areas didn’t get reviewed in 19 when the county last did this. We got hit then and went to a pretty fair market value.

The issue is that on top of that, people are being assessed at crazy, arbitrary values that are not in line with sale prices.

Mine increased 44 percent (after increasing in 21, too) , and put it at 125,000 clear of what 2 similar SF homes on my literal block have sold for in the past two months.

I didn’t squawk when the increase happened in 19. It was fair. This is not a fair assessment.

There are lots of people with that issue. And I’m sure some whose homes were drastically undervalued for assessment purposes

Woogieman 07-01-2023 12:15 PM

A friend had an appt with the County and sat before Tyler Technologies employees (the flounders responsible for the mass appraisals) and went over the appraisal she has performed. She inherited the home from her father that has the home rebuilt in 1993 after a fire. She had interior pics from the appraisal, but they kept hammering her on things like "are you sure there isn't a new stove?!". They were $100+K over the appraisal and they
were arguing over a stove! If you have a challenge appt. nake sure you have pics of deficiencies, dated decor, and functional obsolescences (ceilings less than 8', bedrooms without hall access, floor levels with no bath etc). From what she gathered, Jackson Co. spent $19mm on Tyler Tech, which is why they had to sent employees to KC to CYA the fiasco.

Pablo 07-01-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17002528)
A friend had an appt with the County and sat before Tyler Technologies employees (the flounders responsible for the mass appraisals) and went over the appraisal she has performed. She inherited the home from her father that has the home rebuilt in 1993 after a fire. She had interior pics from the appraisal, but they kept hammering her on things like "are you sure there isn't a new stove?!". They were $100+K over the appraisal and they
were arguing over a stove! If you have a challenge appt. nake sure you have pics of deficiencies, dated decor, and functional obsolescences (ceilings less than 8', bedrooms without hall access, floor levels with no bath etc). From what she gathered, Jackson Co. spent $19mm on Tyler Tech, which is why they had to sent employees to KC to CYA the fiasco.

Type in Tyler Technologies lawsuit in google. They must be hemorrhaging all that money they got in various payouts for all sorts of shit

LMAO

Hammock Parties 07-05-2023 05:45 PM

here we go

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Jackson County property tax appeal deadline looms, one group is taking action <a href="https://t.co/68OPrg0T4I">https://t.co/68OPrg0T4I</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1676738237027475457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As Jackson County property tax appeal deadline looms, one group is taking action


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JACKSON COUNTY, Mo. —

Jackson County homeowners are running out of time to file an appeal over skyrocketing property taxes.

The deadline is July 10.

One of the final workshops is getting under way later Wednesday night in Kansas City.

Several have been held throughout the area over the past few weeks because so many people have been struggling with their assessments.

Property taxes, in many cases, have gone up 90 percent and higher from over two years ago.

The assessments have left a lot of people angry, confused and scared about what they will do if they are forced to pay taxes based on these new numbers.

One group is doing something about it.

They plan to hold a rally on Saturday down by the steps of the Jackson County Courthouse.

"We have got to somehow in Jackson County figure out a major plan of where they're at in the assessment department, because right now it's basically out of control," said Preston Smith, a Jackson County resident.

The protest is designed to get the attention of Jackson County in hopes that what they are calling a broken assessment system will get fixed before people lose their homes.

Wednesday night's workshop is at the Longview campus.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-05-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16999188)
The properties were undervalued for years. I didn't see anyone complaining when they were paying absolute dick for property taxes. I read an article of someone complaining that their assessment went up like 700% and they showed the YoY assessment. The prior year value was 18,000 and it went up to 120,000. Did these people contact the city in years prior to let them know their property was undervalued?

Unless the county is assessing your property for over what it is actually worth, stop your bitching and pay your taxes.

Did you work for the British Empire in the 1760s?

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-05-2023 09:14 PM

Amazing. Land of the "Fee."

This nation started a revolution after a few cents tax on tea.

Hopefully, the residents of Jackson County can overcome this and keep the Jackson statue as well.

I am sure this crap is coming to PA soon.

LoneWolf 07-05-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17006098)
Amazing. Land of the "Fee."

This nation started a revolution after a few cents tax on tea.

Hopefully, the residents of Jackson County can overcome this and keep the Jackson statue as well.

I am sure this crap is coming to PA soon.

The properties had been undervalued for years. The county isn’t overvaluing the properties in most cases. This isn’t a case of blatant corruption.

bringbackmarty 07-05-2023 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16999035)
Do they take in consideration if your house/neighborhood has sidewalks?

I doubt it, unless your sidewalks were recently redone along with your sewer hookups, ours were ;(. Shitty 3.5" pour. Sweetgum in the easment has already lifted one slab 2" in two years. Another thing we will be bringing up on appeal.

bringbackmarty 07-05-2023 11:11 PM

Let's say the increases were levyed statewide, it does violate state law for some folks, and it doesn't for others living in the same state and tax bracket but in different communities based on population. Kinda seems unfair. What happens when the banks **** up mortages again? Gotta cap the max increase at 15% this year and next.

bringbackmarty 07-05-2023 11:15 PM

Most folks should only see a 10% increase and Jackson County needs to pick up some slack when it comes to the policing of KCMO.

Hammock Parties 07-06-2023 12:33 PM

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penguinz 07-06-2023 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17006834)

Manny is going against the voters wishes and trying to get the Andrew Jackson statues removed.

gblowfish 07-06-2023 04:50 PM

I've got a zoom call with Jackson Co and a good friend who's a Real Estate Mogul in KC about my 89% increase. Its on July 14th. If I can get it down to about 15 or 20 percent I can live with that.

LoneWolf 07-06-2023 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 17007337)
I've got a zoom call with Jackson Co and a good friend who's a Real Estate Mogul in KC about my 89% increase. Its on July 14th. If I can get it down to about 15 or 20 percent I can live with that.

Mr. Blowfish, are they assessing your home above what it is worth or is it just getting caught up to where it should be and the large increase is hard to stomach all at once?

Hammock Parties 07-06-2023 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17007496)
Mr. Blowfish, are they assessing your home above what it is worth or is it just getting caught up to where it should be and the large increase is hard to stomach all at once?

no one gives a **** what you have to say about this, wichita boy

exit the thread

Titty Meat 07-06-2023 09:31 PM

Getting double taxed is wack down with big government

Hammock Parties 07-06-2023 09:41 PM

This ****in' dick. Go hit a few more baseballs with your grandkids and leave the rest of us alone.

Jackson County executive Frank White fires back at mayor Quinton Lucas after property tax criticism


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ja...38486791&ei=38

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Jackson County Executive Frank White has sharp words for Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas.

It started with Lucas questioning the assessment process the county has used.

Lucas told KMBC the high assessments will hinder the growth of neighborhoods in the city and that the county should stagger large tax increases and set up payment plans.

White wrote a letter the next business day, saying the mayor's statements sow "seeds of confusion and mistrust."

He called on Lucas to retract his statements and that the county "shall appraise properties" at their true value in money.

White's home is in Lee's Summit. In 2021 it was assessed at $356,000. This year, it's up $26,000, an increase of seven percent.

That's far below the county's announced 30% average increase.

White's neighbor's house on the left looks nearly identical

It's up $100,000, or 29%. His neighbor on the right is up 28%.

Their assessments are on average $64,000 more than White's for the same three-car garage house, on the same corner of the same block.

In the letter, White calls out Lucas' house specifically. It went up $192,000 in assessed value, a 64 percent increase.

"And that's getting off easy compared to a lot of people in Jackson County," Lucas said in an interview earlier this month with KMBC. "There are going to be a lot of people in Jackson County who will not be able to pay these property taxes."

Many real estate professionals have criticized those large disparities.

Hammock Parties 07-06-2023 09:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Angry over property assessments, a Jackson County legislator said people are considering a &quot;full-out recall&quot; of Frank White. <a href="https://t.co/9OKdLlpObm">https://t.co/9OKdLlpObm</a> <a href="https://t.co/l4cqV5wW5w">pic.twitter.com/l4cqV5wW5w</a></p>&mdash; FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox4kc/status/1677114493749321728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

|Zach| 07-06-2023 09:44 PM

Would be interesting to see who would fill a power vacuum with no Frank. I am not a fan and would love to see someone else in the role even though nobody will get close to recalling him.

Come to think of it I am not sure what a recall looks like for his position...not sure what the process is.

Titty Meat 07-06-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17007599)
Would be interesting to see who would fill a power vacuum with no Frank. I am not a fan and would love to see someone else in the role even though nobody will get close to recalling him.

Come to think of it I am not sure what a recall looks like for his position...not sure what the process is.

The county is paying Troy Schulte alot of money I know alot of people like him but I'm not sure if he would be interested in the position

|Zach| 07-06-2023 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17007607)
The county is paying Troy Schulte alot of money I know alot of people like him but I'm not sure if he would be interested in the position

I heard his name last week and I can't remember why...I feel like he has some sort of county job these days.

|Zach| 07-06-2023 10:02 PM

It looks like Troy is "Jackson County Administrator" which seems like it would be just a step below Executive.

LoneWolf 07-06-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17007571)
no one gives a **** what you have to say about this, wichita boy

exit the thread

It’s a legitimate question. He can choose to answer or not. Either way, I don’t think he needs you to say anything on his behalf.

Titty Meat 07-06-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17007612)
I heard his name last week and I can't remember why...I feel like he has some sort of county job these days.

He was the city manager under Sly I think Q pretty much ran him out when he got elected. I think his position is kinda controversial because he's the highest paid Jackson County employee

Pablo 07-07-2023 06:31 AM

Lucas the Landlord complaining about his taxes, that's funny.

Bout to raise the rent bigtime on some poor brown folk I'd guess.

penguinz 07-07-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17007598)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Angry over property assessments, a Jackson County legislator said people are considering a &quot;full-out recall&quot; of Frank White. <a href="https://t.co/9OKdLlpObm">https://t.co/9OKdLlpObm</a> <a href="https://t.co/l4cqV5wW5w">pic.twitter.com/l4cqV5wW5w</a></p>&mdash; FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox4kc/status/1677114493749321728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This man should have never been voted for to begin with.

wazu 07-07-2023 09:24 AM

You can't recall Frank White. The man is a legend in this town. Bend the knee!

Hammock Parties 07-07-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17007879)
You can't recall Frank White. The man is a legend in this town. Bend the knee!

it's time to fly a banner

Eureka 07-07-2023 01:27 PM

Sorry Jackson County residents. See below for what's about to happen.

https://media.tenor.com/przFG9cchoIA...butt-stuff.gif

ToxSocks 07-07-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17007879)
You can't recall Frank White. The man is a legend in this town. Bend the knee!

I am not black like Frank White is
I am white like Frank Black is

ToxSocks 07-07-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 17008279)
Sorry Jackson County residents. See below for what's about to happen.

https://media.tenor.com/przFG9cchoIA...butt-stuff.gif

Wrong thread, foo

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349263

Hammock Parties 07-07-2023 04:03 PM

BOOM. Swamp 'em.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County Board of Equalization extends appeal deadline for property assessments <a href="https://t.co/OMsdmgZJNn">https://t.co/OMsdmgZJNn</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1677437598501928962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Inspector 07-07-2023 07:10 PM

88% increase.

I have the most valuable property in my entire area. Even more valuable than the larger homes, newer homes, better equipped homes, more recently remodeled homes, more fireplaces, new roofs, etc.....according to the Jackson County assessor.

I'm gonna blame Trump!!

Hammock Parties 07-07-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 17008812)
88% increase.

I have the most valuable property in my entire area. Even more valuable than the larger homes, newer homes, better equipped homes, more recently remodeled homes, more fireplaces, new roofs, etc.....according to the Jackson County assessor.

I'm gonna blame Trump!!

LOL these assholes. Government incompetence and pigheadedness at it's finest.

Just talked to neighbor who had no idea about this, and she went and checked.

She went up even more than I did (60%) and her house isn't as nice. She's going to appeal Monday.

Inspector 07-07-2023 07:19 PM

Contact Jackson county officials and urge them to adopt the restrictions noted in SB190 that Parsons signed today. (Freezes the amount of property tax to what it was when you turn 65 or started SS or something like that. Helps old people like me.)

Although, I doubt Jackson county would ever consider it but I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway.


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