The biggest thing sticking with me this week isn't the offense.

If the defense craters like it did last week we're done. We're finished.

I'm going to pick the Chiefs by the hairs of their chinny-chin-chin this week but if they fail to meet that meager expectation, I'm done.

I'll watch the rest of the games like this:

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Bills coach is 6-0 coming off a bye week, so something's gotta give. Andy lost coming off the bye week his first game back too this year.

Even if the offense has never been this bad since Mahomes....the defense has never been this good. The D wasn't fantastic last week, but I tend to think the other 11 games are more representative of their ability.

Yup, for the Bills it's win or no playoffs. They have more to lose than the Chefs and they're coming off a bye.

Also, I don't think we have hit the low point of the season, we can go even lower by losing this one. Who shows up? We need some playmakers to make plays on both sides. Big Red needs to go for the jugular with his play calls. Time to let it all hangout.

The defense didn't play as well and still had it 24-19 in the fourth with the ball and 6 minutes to go.

Amazing all of you are falling for GoChiefs schtick.

Not schtick. This team has lost 3 of 5. We can't play Aiden O'Connell every week.

Teams seem to have figured out how to use a bend but don't break defense by slowing down Kelce and taking advantage of the fact that our receivers are indeed below average. I'm really glad that this one is in Arrowhead.
If Pacheco is hurt I'm gonna be scurredd but I must admit I'm still basking in the afterglow of 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 wins and knowing the only glaring hole is at WR.

Good News:

Chiefs LB Nick Bolton returned to practice Wednesday as a full participant

https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-lb-n...140547134.html

Bolton is going to have a good game and McDuffie is not only going to get his first INT he's going to have his first game with multiple INTs. Josh is going to be desperate and sling that ****in rock

don't underestimate the newer, fatter CEH

Mahomes is on the injury list with a pec injury.

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that I don't like

The new safety is a crutch to our defense. Hopefully a week with the first unit helps. Being at home helps.

But this team starting with Andy need to button up.

I do not understand why rice is coming out after catches. I don't care about packages and wr utilization.
It is not working.

Mvs and sky need their snaps reduced. Run everything out of two te sets with Pacheco blocking and catching in the backfield. Just leave rice, Kelce, Watson and gray out there unless tired.

No idea how we still have wrs not giving a 100 on their routes. I see an entire league of wr getting separation except our dudes.

Our dline needs to get pressure..start stunting and mixing things up instead of straight rushes.

I hope I am wrong but I am feeling a 3pt loss for 3 in a row.

Carl Cheffers will be the ref.

Not good

100%

i am not worried about this, we beat him twice last year - or was it three times? ROFL

i AM worried about:

injuries
our shit-****ing WR corps
a rookie left tackle

When is Toney NOT on the injury report.

Pacheco not practicing again today. CEH could be in line for the start.

I don’t know much about betting but I think that means they had the majority of the money pouring in on the Bills +3 so they move the line to try to get an equal amount of bets on each side

yes i knew that. I guess my question was poorly worded, what I'm asking is what specific variable made all the sharps bet the Bills?

Yikes. CEH is cooked

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I am concerned.

Should have beaten the Packers then. Wasted a great game from Pacheco. Splitting the Packers/Bills games was always acceptable for the top seed. It will be a challenge without Pacheco. He's been the best offensive player the last few games.

Relax. Pop will play.

Thursday injury report hasn't been released yet has it? Can Bolton be a FP all week and not be activated? I know the answer is yes but he seems to be trending towards playing Sunday.

Seems like the moves Veach didn’t make before the trade deadline… upgrade at WR and RB depth are hurting the team now.

This is 2023. There’s this thing called a smart phone and social media where we have access to this stuff now. Very fascinating, really. Look into it.

Just a chest bruise from the hit on the sideline...

22 PPG? They're right, the offense is off. The metrics line up with the Alex Chiefs. **** yards

Actually they don't. Those teams were routinely 25th in yards and 10th in points or something, due to turnovers and short fields.

That didn't change until Tyreek came along.

This team moves the ball at an elite level but can't capitalize in the red zone often enough, and turns it over too much.

You win games by scoring more POINTS than the other team.

This current offense scores less than every Alex Smith team.

THe first half against GB felt EXACTLY like an Alex Smith game.

Two long drives that took time off the clock only to end up with 6 pts.

FP McKinnon

FP Bolton

Let's GOOOO

It's 23. Would be 24 if they hadn't kneeled at the 1 twice.

Yes, and good defense helps you to score more points than the other team. If you can hold the best offense in the league to 14, you don't need to score 40.

Why do people leave out the fact that opponent PPG is way lower than past years?

We'd better limit the explosive plays by the Bills.

You must have missed the last two games.

BTW, the Raiders and the Packers scored more than 14 points. Neither are NFL top 5 offenses.

Of course defense matters. The question is whether it is worth putting so many resources and draft picks on one side of the ball that you neuter your generational QB.

Points....are....all...that....matters

Under 20PPG the last 5 games isn't concerning?

No doubt. Just saying, how this team comes by points, and how those teams came by points, are totally different animals.

Would like to see some burst from Jet

Don't even throw the ball to Skyy or MVS in the 1st half.

Should be Pacheco Pacheco Pacheco throw to Kelce Pacheco Pacheco throw to Rice etc

No penalties or turnovers in the redzone.

Chiefs by 10

gotta keep the bills away from jet

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Don't even need to create a new game plan.

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Let us reminisce a bit.

No explosion. It's why the offense sputters so much in the 2nd half

Yeah, kinda. But they've gone through stretches like that in the past.

My point is that the ability's there. I'm not throwing in the towel because they won't have Juju Smith-Schuster or Orlando Brown in the postseason.

How many people were saying that KC didn't have championship-level defense in 2019 and '22? A lot.

Only difference is those people have switched to worrying about the offense.

Of course the margin for error is going to be pretty thin. As it was in both of those years.

Time you go back to being a Packers fan, bruh!

F** off, enjoy your fake football.

Checks calendar

Nah.


Given they can't do shit about the receiver group at this point though, the injuries might be the death of them if they don't get healthy by playoff time.

Exactly. This team can and will make a run. Will it net a SB? We will see, but I wouldn’t bet against them when playoffs start. That’s why KC is still the favorite to represent the AFC in the SB. Hell, the 2000 Ravens lost 3 games in a row in the middle of their season. Still won a ring. This team isn’t outta it, until the clock hits zero in the playoffs. and that’s a long way away. People have ****ing amnesia. We have the best quarterback/coach/TE combo in the league. We have a top 10 defense. Mahomes will make it happen when the real games begin. Just like he always does.

Bitch, you were a ****ing Pack fan. Then jumped ship. That’s called bandwagon fandom. Fake football, lmmfao. You gonna jump on the 9ers next?

Have they really gone 5 games scoring under 20 a game with Mahomes as the starter? I don't think so. Maybe Im wrong though. :shrug:

No.

I see Clay the fairy boy already flipped. What a ****ing nonce.

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Steelers are gonna fold. Chiefs need to knock the Bills out of contention.

the writing is on the wall for this team

right now i'm worried about every game

even the patriots game

the reidian run is in peril

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Wrong. Two years ago, they averaged 17 ppg over a 5-game stretch. Plus a 3-game stretch at 12 ppg. And that was with Hill on the roster. They ended up scoring 36 ppg the rest of the year.

Would like to see 36 ppg the rest of the way… Don Meredith: “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.”

We have a tackle problem. Both starters need help and are getting it on nearly every play, limiting the play calling. It was a risky move to replace them both and it looks like last years’ tackles were better.

Defensively, they need to ID play action a lot better this week. Jordan effing Love burnt them with it. Nick Bolton please. Getting Josh in 2nd and long should help.

He’s a pussy

This is what people should be talking about, instead of pinning all the blame on the WRs. These tackles have been overrated all year. Nobody wants to admit it, because they've committed to the narrative that KC upgraded there. Hopefully Morris will be a nice surprise.

In the offseason, they need to find a proven WR and draft a tackle in the first. Voila...a return to 30 ppg and the first truly balanced juggernaut in the Mahomes era.

Tenderfoot pretty boy who's quickly aging out of his niche.

This game is no puzzle and we all know what needs to happen. Mahomes and the offense can't have turnovers. They have to run the football because the remaining LB's the Bills have aren't great at covering or stopping the run. Kelce needs to have a successful game. Defense has to be at their best and play like they did vs the Eagles and Dolphins.

Very likely a defensive score puts us over the top for a win. Very likely that if any of the elements above don't happen we lose. We're a mortal team now. We need to play into our strengths and avoid our areas of weakness...

McDuffie's first shot at the King of turnovers? Me likey

You're confused. This movie is a reboot of an older movie starring Alex Smith. In half of this seasons contests, the Kansas City Chiefs have scored 20 points or less, losing 4 of those 6 contests. For a Patrick Mahomes led offense, with a perfectly healthy Patrick Mahomes, that is abominable. Opponents used to have to score 28 just to have a ticket to the show, they needed to score 30 to win out over a team averaging 29.2 points per game.

Defense outperforming an offense struggling to score points with some hilariously bad personnel decisions tossed in there. Hmm where have i seen this? 2017?


I think this reboot film will have its ending based on the 2017 playoff matchup between the Chiefs and Steelers, in which a stout defense only surrenders 6 field goals, but Andy's offense could only muster 16 points, losing at home 18-16.

That's just how this season feels. They've only cracked 30 points 3 times, on absolute dumpster fire teams in the Bears, Raiders and Chargers contests.

The biggest nod to that game at the end of this reboot will be instead of Alex Smith just flat out not seeing a streaking Tyreek Hill for a td, it will be Mahomes scrambling, and dropping an absolute dime on a streaking MVS who drops the football.

Thats the movie you're watching now.

I hate that I agree with you.

I hate it.

It makes me feel bad, and sad.

But I do agree with you.

Still the 4th ranked offense in DVOA, not that that's supposed to make anyone feel better. We should be number one with Mahomes.

We've been awful in key situations this year. Late in games, critical third and fourth downs. Situationally, we've looked like the Alex Smith Chiefs.

Since you seem tuned in with the future, Mrs Cleo… loser leaves forever bet? We make it back to the AFCCG minimum, you’re saying we lose the first game. Put your posting privy’s where you’re mouth is!

But I’d be willing to make it an avatar bet if you don’t wanna tempt fate.

Man, that's what I kinda keep coming back to. The advanced stats say this should be a whole lot better offense than the scoreboard says.

Just stop doing dumb shit!!

The offense wasn't horrible in Green Bay. Not explosive by any means, but we had limited possessions in that game because GB drained the clock and stayed on the field with extended drives.

We went 2/2 on scoring drives in the first half. (last drive started with 9 seconds left). Followed by two consecutive touchdowns to start the second half.

So we started the game 4/4 on scoring drives, then really unraveled in crunch time.

I get it, but don't do it. Not this year. If you lose, the board loses something. It's not worth it. (unless you're sick of this place, and I get that also) But this year is like no other with Mahomes. Weird things are happening and that's not likely to stop. It's going to be a learning experience and they'll go scorched earth next year, and if you lose the bet, you'll miss out on what's coming.

Another reason that DVOA is pretty worthless, frankly. They clearly haven't been a top 5 offense throughout the year. But they're capable of moving the ball. It's not a 3 and out fest like last year's Broncos. Just need to limit the costly mistakes. Which Reid teams always do eventually.

The offense was fine until the 4th quarter. They were able to move the ball. Stalled twice in the red zone in the first half but scored two TDs in the second half. The 4th quarter wasn't good. Throwing to MVS and Moore ruined two drives.

Of course, after the defense started making stops, the offense stopped scoring.

Taylor is going to go down as one of the worst FA signings in franchise history. Yeah he has an excellent pass blocking grade but only because he is 5 yards and 5 seconds ahead of any DE if a penalty isn't called. I'm amazed Reid and Veach didn't notice this before giving him that contract; feels like they only looked at his PFF Grade.

Yeah, I felt like there was some offensive improvement in the GB game. But two red zone field goals and an interception are ongoing issues that need to be improved.

I don't know about the worst one, but it's not looking very good at this point.