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In58men 04-27-2025 08:09 AM

“After transferring, Royals didn't record a single stat in 2022 but broke out in 2023 with a 71-grab, 1,080-yard, 15-touchdown season for Utah State. He was arguably its lone standout player during a 6-7 season where three different quarterbacks played. Royals could have left school via the transfer portal after 2023 but stayed loyal to Utah State after it committed to him when no one else would.”

In58men 04-27-2025 08:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jalen Royals is going to be scary with Patrick Mahomes ��<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/082jKV1llM">pic.twitter.com/082jKV1llM</a></p>&mdash; SleeperNFL (@SleeperNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/SleeperNFL/status/1916505545898418312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kiimo 04-27-2025 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18047598)
Unrelated and hilarious side note:

The Chiefs' selection of Royals led to Bills fans melting down about what a good draft the Chiefs were having, what an insane value Royals was, and how stupid their GM is.

If he's as good as we think he is going to be, that's just another dagger with them. You hate to see it, but mostly, you love to see it.



please quote or link

duncan_idaho 04-27-2025 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18047702)
please quote or link


I think it’s linked on the first couple pages of this thread. I’ll try to find.

duncan_idaho 04-27-2025 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 18045987)
The ladies over at Two Bills Drive are extremely upset with us getting Royals. You hate to see it.

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...s-4-7/page/19/


Here you go

Kiimo 04-27-2025 10:07 AM

https://c.tenor.com/G0PWi59OVk0AAAAd/tenor.gif

PHOG 04-27-2025 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18047719)
Here you go

That just makes it all better. ROFL

RealSNR 04-27-2025 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 18045987)
The ladies over at Two Bills Drive are extremely upset with us getting Royals. You hate to see it.

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...s-4-7/page/19/

Lol. There's a guy named Bruce Vilanch. That's funny.

Monticore 04-27-2025 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 18047157)
Best group of WRs we’ve had since we traded Tyreek. This will be a fun group to watch.

Don’t forget to throw in smith , worthy, rice, royals can play all the spots all do motion and a wr in the backfield who can burn CB as well and make other teams pay for light boxes

kccrow 04-27-2025 12:31 PM

Just realized I didn't comment on this pick.

This was among the top 3 steals of the draft, in my opinion. I thought there were a few good ones.

The guys I thought were steals were: ER Mike Green to Baltimore at 59, CB Azareye'h Thomas to the Jets at 73, WR Jaylin Noel to the Texans at 79, FS Xavier Watts to the Falcons at 95, LB Danny Stutsman to the Saints at 112, ER Jack Sawyer to the Steelers at 123, Joshua Farmer to the Patriots at 137, OL Marcus Mbow to the Giants at 154, LB Jeffrey Bassa to the Chiefs at 156 (Veach did good on day 3), WR Tory Horton to the Seahawks at 166, OL Miles Frazier to the Lions at 171, CB Dorian Strong to the Bills at 177, RB Devin Neal to the Saints at 184, RB Damien Martinez to the Seahawks at 223, CB Korie Black too the Giants at 246, and TE Moliki Matavao to the Saints at 248

The other two I'd put up there are probably Jack Sawyer, solidly 70 picks later than I thought he'd go, and Miles Frazier, who I'd say went about 90 picks later than I thought he would.

Royals is a perfect fit for Reid's offense. I think we have 3 young guys you can move around but Royals at the X, Worthy at the Z and Rice in the Slot is going to be some quality shit.

Bowser 04-27-2025 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18047598)
Unrelated and hilarious side note:

The Chiefs' selection of Royals led to Bills fans melting down about what a good draft the Chiefs were having, what an insane value Royals was, and how stupid their GM is.

If he's as good as we think he is going to be, that's just another dagger with them. You hate to see it, but mostly, you love to see it.

Rent free in their heads. Rent. Free.

And I absolutely love to see it.

BlackHelicopters 04-27-2025 02:02 PM

Semi erect

JohnnyHammersticks 04-27-2025 02:08 PM

I truly enjoy perusing TwoBillsDrive.

I don’t post, don’t have an account there or anything like that - I just find that it’s the most like CP amongst other NFL message boards. They have posters who clearly know the game and do their research, and it’s a never ending source of amusement for me to see how cursed they feel they are by Veach, Mahomes, Reid, and the entire Chiefs organization.

We ALWAYS get the guys they want. :D

Wallymo 04-28-2025 03:29 PM

I ran across the below while researching every article ever written on each member of our new draft class. In addition to his play, Royals' temperament appears ideally suited to our wide receiver room:

Reserved personality and described as an “incredible teammate” with “no ego” by offensive coordinator Kyle Cefalo

That's pretty refreshing for a wide receiver and bodes well for meshing with Rice and Worthy.

BWillie 04-28-2025 04:04 PM

The more tape I watch of this kid the more I feel like he's a Rashee Rice clone.

staylor26 04-28-2025 04:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of my favorite reps from today.<br><br>Good vs Good<br><br>Jalen Royals vs Max Hairston <br><br>Royals has some Jamar Chase to his game… footwork and run after catch A+ <a href="https://t.co/VzUYoCiZ0c">pic.twitter.com/VzUYoCiZ0c</a></p>&mdash; (Foots The King) (@FootsDaKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootsDaKing/status/1884732505481171231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qht" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp">https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp</a></p>&mdash; Julio (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1916906295124472195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefs 4th round pick 1 on 1 against the Bills 1st :)

MahomesMagic 04-28-2025 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18047879)
Just realized I didn't comment on this pick.

This was among the top 3 steals of the draft, in my opinion. I thought there were a few good ones.

The guys I thought were steals were: ER Mike Green to Baltimore at 59, CB Azareye'h Thomas to the Jets at 73, WR Jaylin Noel to the Texans at 79, FS Xavier Watts to the Falcons at 95, LB Danny Stutsman to the Saints at 112, ER Jack Sawyer to the Steelers at 123, Joshua Farmer to the Patriots at 137, OL Marcus Mbow to the Giants at 154, LB Jeffrey Bassa to the Chiefs at 156 (Veach did good on day 3), WR Tory Horton to the Seahawks at 166, OL Miles Frazier to the Lions at 171, CB Dorian Strong to the Bills at 177, RB Devin Neal to the Saints at 184, RB Damien Martinez to the Seahawks at 223, CB Korie Black too the Giants at 246, and TE Moliki Matavao to the Saints at 248

The other two I'd put up there are probably Jack Sawyer, solidly 70 picks later than I thought he'd go, and Miles Frazier, who I'd say went about 90 picks later than I thought he would.

Royals is a perfect fit for Reid's offense. I think we have 3 young guys you can move around but Royals at the X, Worthy at the Z and Rice in the Slot is going to be some quality shit.


Noel was one I really liked and wish we had gotten but the board never fell right for us.

Kiimo 04-28-2025 05:27 PM

Reminder that Hairston ran a 4.2

Bump 04-28-2025 06:19 PM

might be the steal of the draft for us, can't believe we actually got him in the 4th

RunKC 04-28-2025 07:34 PM

Really hope this kid can contribute from week 1. I don’t want him to go through the Andy Reid standard 12 weeks to learn shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Director of Player Personnel/College Scouting Ryne Nutt on Jalen Royals: &quot;With Rashee (Rice) coming back from injury and trying to get right, our hope is (Royals) can step in.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1916887766203236628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 04-28-2025 07:59 PM

It's just the way Andy does it.

Hopefully he can get some reps, but if he's getting 6/7 snaps a game from the beginning, it's fine.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2025 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18049181)
Really hope this kid can contribute from week 1. I don’t want him to go through the Andy Reid standard 12 weeks to learn shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Director of Player Personnel/College Scouting Ryne Nutt on Jalen Royals: &quot;With Rashee (Rice) coming back from injury and trying to get right, our hope is (Royals) can step in.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1916887766203236628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



I think it was Nut who mentioned Chiefs prioritize speed, power, and route running now for WR's.


Where's our one friend? The guy who said route running for WR's is overrated.

Glad the Chiefs scout said that and are now drafting better WR's because they take this into account more.

He also mentioned Royals as a prospect is ahead of Rice on route running if you compare to when Rice entered the NFL.

Dark Horse 04-29-2025 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18049018)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of my favorite reps from today.<br><br>Good vs Good<br><br>Jalen Royals vs Max Hairston <br><br>Royals has some Jamar Chase to his game… footwork and run after catch A+ <a href="https://t.co/VzUYoCiZ0c">pic.twitter.com/VzUYoCiZ0c</a></p>&mdash; (Foots The King) (@FootsDaKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootsDaKing/status/1884732505481171231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qht" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp">https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp</a></p>&mdash; Julio (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1916906295124472195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefs 4th round pick 1 on 1 against the Bills 1st :)

Man that Hairston kid is really gonna look like something when he beats everyone down the field on special teams and blows right by the return man

DJ's left nut 04-29-2025 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18049216)
I think it was Nut who mentioned Chiefs prioritize speed, power, and route running now for WR's.


Where's our one friend? The guy who said route running for WR's is overrated.

Glad the Chiefs scout said that and are now drafting better WR's because they take this into account more.

He also mentioned Royals as a prospect is ahead of Rice on route running if you compare to when Rice entered the NFL.

It was not.

I actually kinda thought it was a funny comment when someone else offered it.

"Oh, you prioritize 3 of the 4 things that matter? With the 4th being 'hands' and NOBODY just takes that off the board..."

I read the statement and thought it was a big ol' nothingburger. I mean, what the hell else is there to look at with WRs? I guess height. So he tells us the Chiefs don't prioritize height.

Well no shit. I can read a roster. Y'all haven't prioritized height...ever.

duncan_idaho 04-29-2025 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18049018)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of my favorite reps from today.<br><br>Good vs Good<br><br>Jalen Royals vs Max Hairston <br><br>Royals has some Jamar Chase to his game… footwork and run after catch A+ <a href="https://t.co/VzUYoCiZ0c">pic.twitter.com/VzUYoCiZ0c</a></p>&mdash; (Foots The King) (@FootsDaKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootsDaKing/status/1884732505481171231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qht" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp">https://t.co/iVJf2RZfVp</a></p>&mdash; Julio (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1916906295124472195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chiefs 4th round pick 1 on 1 against the Bills 1st :)

Goodness.

If Hairston struggles that much with the physicality of Royals, he's going to have a hard time handling most NFL receivers out of the gate. Especially a big slot type like Rice.

If Buffalo took Hairston as a counter-punch to Xavier Worthy, KC will be able to counter that approach with guys like Royals and Rice.

Kiimo 04-29-2025 12:27 PM

Hairston prefers to overpower opponents who are much, much weaker than him

MahomesMagic 04-29-2025 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18049516)
It was not.

I actually kinda thought it was a funny comment when someone else offered it.

"Oh, you prioritize 3 of the 4 things that matter? With the 4th being 'hands' and NOBODY just takes that off the board..."

I read the statement and thought it was a big ol' nothingburger. I mean, what the hell else is there to look at with WRs? I guess height. So he tells us the Chiefs don't prioritize height.

Well no shit. I can read a roster. Y'all haven't prioritized height...ever.



We didn't value route running as much in prior years:

See Mecole Hardman over Terry McLaurin

O.city 04-29-2025 01:00 PM

I do like the thickness he's got. Seems to be able to play thru contact, which is nice.

staylor26 04-29-2025 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18049881)
I do like the thickness he's got. Seems to be able to play thru contact, which is nice.

And that thickness at 4.41 will absolutely do. He has a pretty rare combination of mass and speed for the WR position.

Kiimo 04-29-2025 01:09 PM

And if it is true like someone posted earlier that his 4.4 is more like 4.3 range with a healthy ankle well now we're talking

CatfishBob2 04-29-2025 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18049881)
I do like the thickness he's got. Seems to be able to play thru contact, which is nice.


.......... nobody's going to say it?.................






F*** it......

That's what she said

KingPriest2 04-29-2025 07:16 PM

I wasn’t her of him at first.

I didn’t want him in the 2nd or 3rd But 4th round was good

KingPriest2 04-29-2025 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18049897)
And if it is true like someone posted earlier that his 4.4 is more like 4.3 range with a healthy ankle well now we're talking

Yes

Fish 04-30-2025 12:20 PM

Brilliant...

https://i.imgur.com/3Hm0Elw.png

RunKC 04-30-2025 12:36 PM

Anyone see what James Palmer said about this kid?

He had that foot injury but at the combine he was only 85-90% and still ran a 4.42. Palmer said that he was a 4.3 caliber runner hampered by this injury still while testing.

This is not helping my boner

Dunerdr 04-30-2025 12:45 PM

His testing numbers are fantastic. I just didn't really see it on tape as much. He looked more like an MVS fast guy sometimes on tape. But he had a nice 10 yard? KCSN says its the system and he played down to his QB. I hope he's ready to play up to his new one. That size and speed should be a deadly compliment to our WR room.

BWillie 04-30-2025 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18050963)
Anyone see what James Palmer said about this kid?

He had that foot injury but at the combine he was only 85-90% and still ran a 4.42. Palmer said that he was a 4.3 caliber runner hampered by this injury still while testing.

This is not helping my boner

I don't care what he ran the 40 in.

I do care that he ran a fast 10 yard split and good agility. I care waaaaay waaaay more what he ran the 10 yard split in than the 40.

There really is no reason to even run the 40

Chris Meck 04-30-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18050976)
I don't care what he ran the 40 in.

I do care that he ran a fast 10 yard split and good agility. I care waaaaay waaaay more what he ran the 10 yard split in than the 40.

There really is no reason to even run the 40

BRO, DO YOU EVEN LIKE BOMBZ?

ChiefsFanatic 05-01-2025 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18050971)
His testing numbers are fantastic. I just didn't really see it on tape as much. He looked more like an MVS fast guy sometimes on tape. But he had a nice 10 yard? KCSN says its the system and he played down to his QB. I hope he's ready to play up to his new one. That size and speed should be a deadly compliment to our WR room.

What stood out to me is how he snatches the ball out of the air. Many of his catches are all hands, and he seems to have great hands.

There were a couple of body catches, but those were more about protecting the football from the defender.

I feel like he is going to earn Patrick's trust pretty quickly.

Kiimo 05-01-2025 10:37 AM

In my dynasty superflex rookie and free agent draft right now.

We're not the only ones who think highly of royals



https://i.imgur.com/JZ0gHQr.png

KingPriest2 05-01-2025 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18050963)
Anyone see what James Palmer said about this kid?

He had that foot injury but at the combine he was only 85-90% and still ran a 4.42. Palmer said that he was a 4.3 caliber runner hampered by this injury still while testing.

This is not helping my boner

Already posted about 4.32 on Sunday

BigRedChief 05-01-2025 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18050963)
This is not helping my boner

You have a stick of deodorant handy?

SAGA45 05-03-2025 08:35 PM

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ThyKingdomCome15 05-03-2025 11:13 PM

I like this kid. Can't wait to see him run some routes.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 05:00 AM

His measurables are similar to Skyy Moore. And I have scar tissue that won't go away.

Marcellus 05-04-2025 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18049181)
Really hope this kid can contribute from week 1. I don’t want him to go through the Andy Reid standard 12 weeks to learn shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Director of Player Personnel/College Scouting Ryne Nutt on Jalen Royals: &quot;With Rashee (Rice) coming back from injury and trying to get right, our hope is (Royals) can step in.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1916887766203236628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You do realize who he is playing behind on the depth chart right? He’s the #4 at best.

And that’s not a knock on him. That’s a testament to the depth this WR group has if they stay healthy.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18054609)
You do realize who he is playing behind on the depth chart right? He’s the #4 at best.

And that’s not a knock on him. That’s a testament to the depth this WR group has if they stay healthy.

This. Rice and Hollywood are W1 and W2. Worthy is the gadget Z. And Kelce and Gray are the TE1 and TE2.

Unless there is injury he won't see the field much this season.

Deberg_1990 05-04-2025 08:11 AM

25 catches, 315 yards. 2 TDs. Year 1. Unless someone gets hurt or suspended.

chop 05-04-2025 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054614)
Worthy is the gadget Z.


I think Worthy is more than a "gadget Z". He got some good playing time last year and should be in a better position this year to succeed IMO.

smithandrew051 05-04-2025 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054584)
His measurables are similar to Skyy Moore. And I have scar tissue that won't go away.

Which measurables?

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 18054631)
Which measurables?

He's two inches taller and ten pounds heavier, but I guess since he tested about the same in the 40 they're the same guy. Or something.

staylor26 05-04-2025 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054584)
His measurables are similar to Skyy Moore. And I have scar tissue that won't go away.

You're quickly building a reputation here...

staylor26 05-04-2025 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054614)
This. Rice and Hollywood are W1 and W2. Worthy is the gadget Z. And Kelce and Gray are the TE1 and TE2.

Unless there is injury he won't see the field much this season.

Only a complete ****ing reerun thinks:

1. Worthy is a "gadget" WR

2. Worthy is behind Brown in the pecking order

smithandrew051 05-04-2025 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18054645)
He's two inches taller and ten pounds heavier, but I guess since he tested about the same in the 40 they're the same guy. Or something.

So no more guys who run 4.4 40’s even if they had a nagging injury that slowed them down a bit because it might mean they’re Skyy Moore?

Rainbarrel 05-04-2025 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054584)
His measurables are similar to Skyy Moore. And I have scar tissue that won't go away.

septic tanks are dug up and covered back up every day

BigRedChief 05-04-2025 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18054609)
You do realize who he is playing behind on the depth chart right? He’s the #4 at best.

And that’s not a knock on him. That’s a testament to the depth this WR group has if they stay healthy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054614)
This. Rice and Hollywood are W1 and W2. Worthy is the gadget Z. And Kelce and Gray are the TE1 and TE2.

Unless there is injury he won't see the field much this season.

After last year when our WR room was decimated by injuries, I'm all for keeping a deep WR room.

Brown goes off this year, he'll be gone to that big contract. We will need to draft another WR next year.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18054652)
Only a complete ****ing reerun thinks:

1. Worthy is a "gadget" WR

2. Worthy is behind Brown in the pecking order

Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 18054664)
So no more guys who run 4.4 40’s even if they had a nagging injury that slowed them down a bit because it might mean they’re Skyy Moore?

Apparently.

It seems that running 4.4 simply means you're garbage. You can run a 4.5 like Rice, that's fine. You can run a 4.3 like Worthy, but 4.4 is the 'shit spot', if you will.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054712)
Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.


Uhhh, no.

This is dumb.

Brown is NOT an X.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18054750)
Uhhh, no.

This is dumb.

Brown is NOT an X.

He's not, but he can actually play the X or slot. He's not just a gadget Z receiver.

This is a guy who went for 1000 yards playing primarily outside on the Ravens.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats out Brown for a starting role this year. Brown would be the number 1 on some ACTUAL NFL TEAMS. Not just Utah State.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054755)
He's not, but he can actually play the X or slot. He's not just a gadget Z receiver.

This is a guy who went for 1000 yards playing primarily outside on the Ravens.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats out Brown for a starting role this year. Brown would be the number 1 on some ACTUAL NFL TEAMS. Not just Utah State.

Hardman is gone, we don't have anyone that's just a 'gadget Z' receiver.

Hollywood is many things, but physical isn't what I'd call the strength of his game, and I don't think fighting through a press corner at the line of scrimmage is really the best way to use him.

Rice or Royals either one would be better for that role.

You DO understand the X receiver is the guy that can't go in motion that is lined up ON the line of scrimmage, right?

staylor26 05-04-2025 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054712)
Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.

So you actually watched the last several weeks of the season/playoffs and came to the conclusion that Hollywood > Worthy?

Again, only a reerun could have possibly come away with this.

Rice and Worthy are 1A and 1B. Hollywood is firmly in the WR3 spot, regardless of where he lines up on the field or the routes that he runs.

This is an Andy Reid offense. All of that other stuff is irrelevant. It's about who's going to be getting the targets, and that's very obviously Worthy over Brown.

Kiimo 05-04-2025 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054712)
Brown has the more complete route tree and better hands and understanding of zone coverage. And he cam play outside too.

Brown would be the X receiver and WR1 on a handful of actual NFL teams.



This guy HAS to be a mult troll. Which one of you should I congratulate for managing to push my buttons?

fuzzy 05-04-2025 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18054761)
Hardman is gone, we don't have anyone that's just a 'gadget Z' receiver.

Hollywood is many things, but physical isn't what I'd call the strength of his game, and I don't think fighting through a press corner at the line of scrimmage is really the best way to use him.

Rice or Royals either one would be better for that role.

You DO understand the X receiver is the guy that can't go in motion that is lined up ON the line of scrimmage, right?

Hollywood was the WR1 on the literal highest scoring offense in the NFL.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats him out.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18054764)
So you actually watched the last several weeks of the season/playoffs and came to the conclusion that Hollywood > Worthy?

Again, only a reerun could have possibly come away with this.

Rice and Worthy are 1A and 1B. Hollywood is firmly in the WR3 spot, regardless of where he lines up on the field or the routes that he runs.

This is an Andy Reid offense. All of that other stuff is irrelevant. It's about who's going to be getting the targets, and that's very obviously Worthy over Brown.

7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

Kiimo 05-04-2025 11:40 AM

Fuzzy


Shut

the

****

up

kozzman555 05-04-2025 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054789)
Hollywood was the WR1 on the literal highest scoring offense in the NFL.

I'd be utterly shocked if Royals beats him out.

fuzzy is just a butthurt Bills fan that wanted his team to draft Royals but is big mad they didn't. Now he's here just trolling y'all. Don't fall for the bait.

Kiimo 05-04-2025 11:49 AM

Sounds like it but I stand by my post regardless

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054805)
7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

So you DIDN'T know. But now you do.

Something else you don't really seem to know-

In KC, everybody knows all of the WR positions and can line up anywhere on any given play. It's a thing.

Also-promising rookies will start with a small package of plays, and ramp up over time. This has been the way Andy gets new guys in the flow since he got here.

So no, Royals will more than likely not start in front of Hollywood. Assuming Rice is good to start the season, Royals won't 'start' at all.

But, his skill-set is most similar to Rice, although he's faster. Size-wise, he can be play 'X'. Speed-wise, he can play anywhere.

Hypothetically, of course. It's May and we have no idea how it will all shake out.

fuzzy 05-04-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18054828)
So you DIDN'T know. But now you do.

Something else you don't really seem to know-

In KC, everybody knows all of the WR positions and can line up anywhere on any given play. It's a thing.

Also-promising rookies will start with a small package of plays, and ramp up over time. This has been the way Andy gets new guys in the flow since he got here.

So no, Royals will more than likely not start in front of Hollywood. Assuming Rice is good to start the season, Royals won't 'start' at all.

But, his skill-set is most similar to Rice, although he's faster. Size-wise, he can be play 'X'. Speed-wise, he can play anywhere.

Hypothetically, of course. It's May and we have no idea how it will all shake out.

To play the X you need to be a very crisp route runner. Look at Davante, Jefferson, etc. You don't just blow by people like that if you're name isn't Randy Moss.

Does Royals run crisp NFL caliber routes?

staylor26 05-04-2025 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054805)
7 Men have to line up on the of scrimmage. It's not a choice. It's a rule. You cannot be a WR1 in this league if you require motion to get open.

I love how you think you're dropping knowledge LMAO

Tell me what Worthy's target rate was down the stretch, particularly in the playoffs/SB, and explain how where he lines up changes that at all.

I'll wait...

RealSNR 05-04-2025 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18054832)
To play the X you need to be a very crisp route runner. Look at Davante, Jefferson, etc. You don't just blow by people like that if you're name isn't Randy Moss.

Does Royals run crisp NFL caliber routes?

You called Worthy a gadget Z. Does Worthy run crisp NFL caliber routes?

Yes. Yes he does.

BWillie 05-04-2025 12:28 PM

Thos guy reminds me of a mix of Amari Cooper and Rashee Rice.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18054859)
Thos guy reminds me of a mix of Amari Cooper and Rashee Rice.

He's much faster than either.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18054840)
I love how you think you're dropping knowledge LMAO

Tell me what Worthy's target rate was down the stretch, particularly in the playoffs/SB, and explain how where he lines up changes that at all.

I'll wait...

He didn't know. I told him, and he went and looked it up. Now he's dropping some knowledge.

BWillie 05-04-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18054880)
He's much faster than either.

Much faster? Royals is barely faster than Rice in the 40. Rice is a little faster with football speed, as in the 20 yard and 10 yard split.

duncan_idaho 05-04-2025 01:06 PM

fuzzy is the front runner so far for worst new poster of 2025.

Pair the inane, nonsensical misunderstanding of the NfL trade market of Balto with the confident incorrectness of (well, a bunch of dudes), and you’ve got a fuzzy.

Chris Meck 05-04-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18054899)
Much faster? Royals is barely faster than Rice in the 40. Rice is a little faster with football speed, as in the 20 yard and 10 yard split.

The Chiefs scout said Royals is a 4.3 guy but ran slower at the combine because of the lingering foot issue.

Doesn't matter.

Compared to Cooper, especially Cooper NOW, I feel pretty confident in saying Royals is considerably faster.

RealSNR 05-04-2025 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18054908)
fuzzy is the front runner so far for worst new poster of 2025.

Pair the inane, nonsensical misunderstanding of the NfL trade market of Balto with the confident incorrectness of (well, a bunch of dudes), and you’ve got a fuzzy.


Don’t forget the incorrect history.

He said the Chiefs lost out on Trent Williams a couple years ago because Veach got outbid


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